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Post by ADH45258 on Dec 30, 2017 10:03:36 GMT
I prefer the new interior simply for handrails that match the lines colour on maps. I think there is far too much inconsistency with tube interiors. Using the line colour in this way makes sense, but only if used on every line (maybe with the exception of the Circle and Hammersmith & City lines operated together). Also with seating, the 1972 stock easily could have received the standard tube moquette rather than its revised version. I think the standard one should have been uses on the S-stock as well. If it's too difficult to use line colour for the poles on every line (e.g. black on the northern line), they could use the standard Northern line blue for every stock.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 30, 2017 11:26:29 GMT
I prefer the new interior simply for handrails that match the lines colour on maps. I think there is far too much inconsistency with tube interiors. Using the line colour in this way makes sense, but only if used on every line (maybe with the exception of the Circle and Hammersmith & City lines operated together). Also with seating, the 1972 stock easily could have received the standard tube moquette rather than its revised version. I think the standard one should have been uses on the S-stock as well. If it's too difficult to use line colour for the poles on every line (e.g. black on the northern line), they could use the standard Northern line blue for every stock. Then you do get issues with the whole S Stock, the District Line does occasionally nab some of the S Stocks from the Circle and H&C for use on the main line and vice versa. I also quite like the fact the S Stock has its own moquette, it works very well with its interior. I can't imagine the standard Barman moquette on it at all. As for the refurb on the 1996 stocks, it's a very good refurb. The interior is far brighter now and it makes the train feel more roomy. That said I don't think it was completely necessary at this time, the trains could have got a few more years out of them.
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Post by snoggle on Dec 30, 2017 12:31:57 GMT
As for the refurb on the 1996 stocks, it's a very good refurb. The interior is far brighter now and it makes the train feel more roomy. That said I don't think it was completely necessary at this time, the trains could have got a few more years out of them. Be grateful it was done now because you'd be waiting until after 2021 given the parlous state of the LUL capital investment budget. Doing it exactly at half life is the right time and should prevent the trains looking too hideous in a few years. I just wish they'd remembered to put some cushioning in the seats. The Jub and Nor line trains are now horribly uncomfortable.
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Post by Alex on Jan 3, 2018 1:48:42 GMT
Then you do get issues with the whole S Stock, the District Line does occasionally nab some of the S Stocks from the Circle and H&C for use on the main line and vice versa. I also quite like the fact the S Stock has its own moquette, it works very well with its interior. I can't imagine the standard Barman moquette on it at all. Late post, and a bit of a 'bump' but been a busy few days with the end of the festive season. Only a minor point though really, the District does more than occasionally nab S7 stock trains - the whole lot are a pool which are shared between the three lines and units get changed over between lines on a daily basis. On the current Monday to Friday turns (for example), two early morning starts for the C&H lines come out of Ealing Common depot, three from Upminster depot and there are two 'interpeak' stabling trains, one for each Ealing and Upminster (one Circle and one H&C). In the evening the respective workings are reversed, with two finishing the evening's work at Ealing and three at Upminster. Gives the opportunity to do some odd workings at certain times of the day - I know from experience the late night Upminster trips get described as such on indicators as far back as Kings Cross (to be honest it's the first place I've spotted it - would make sense if the train description could say that from Baker Street) and the destination code/announcements/blinds usually get changed to 'Upminster' at Aldgate East. No S Stock H&C destination code for the whole route to Upminster (as of yet, however it is possible to put up 'Watford Junction - Metropolitan Line', another story )....... The other thing is, when the C Stock were about, Hammersmith was their maintenance depot where all work was carried out - making the C Stock essentially belonging to the C&H with the District using the units for their Edgware Road - Wimbledon service (and there were trips on that which meant trains used on said service could start/finish at Hammersmith at the start and ends of the day). Now Hammersmith is used more as a siding where only minor works can be carried out, it was never converted to fully maintain S Stock. The S7 heavier maintenance is carried out at Ealing and Upminster depots which is another reason the interworked timetabling has been put in.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 7, 2020 9:34:32 GMT
Not quite a refurbishment but more an origin, a mock up of a 96 stock being built. Photo credit to Gabriel Wong
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Post by snowman on Jul 11, 2020 5:39:38 GMT
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Post by M1104 on Sept 5, 2020 15:29:06 GMT
Two 83 stock units at the disused Broad Street Viaduct in Shoreditch. Photo credit to Ben Davidson
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 5, 2020 16:52:26 GMT
Two 83 stock units at the disused Broad Street Viaduct in Shoreditch. Photo credit to Ben Davidson Thats actually pretty cool.
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Post by M1104 on Oct 11, 2020 14:20:24 GMT
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Post by richard on Oct 11, 2020 15:06:59 GMT
This sounds interesting. It would be cool to see Jubilee line units on the Northern but with the country in resection it may be a while before we see this happen.
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Post by ADH45258 on Oct 11, 2020 22:47:07 GMT
This sounds interesting. It would be cool to see Jubilee line units on the Northern but with the country in resection it may be a while before we see this happen. Perhaps TFL might divert some of the New Tube for London order to the Jubilee line, if this is deemed to take priority?
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Post by richard on Oct 12, 2020 0:00:12 GMT
This sounds interesting. It would be cool to see Jubilee line units on the Northern but with the country in resection it may be a while before we see this happen. Perhaps TFL might divert some of the New Tube for London order to the Jubilee line, if this is deemed to take priority? Possibly but wasn't the Central supoosed to be first to get their new stock?
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Post by vjaska on Oct 12, 2020 1:04:00 GMT
Perhaps TFL might divert some of the New Tube for London order to the Jubilee line, if this is deemed to take priority? Possibly but wasn't the Central supoosed to be first to get their new stock? The Piccadilly was the first line was the first to receive them by 2025, then Central by 2030, Waterloo & City by 2032 & Bakerloo by 2033
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Post by M1104 on Oct 12, 2020 12:21:42 GMT
This sounds interesting. It would be cool to see Jubilee line units on the Northern but with the country in resection it may be a while before we see this happen. Perhaps TFL might divert some of the New Tube for London order to the Jubilee line, if this is deemed to take priority? The way I understand it the Jubilee Line's fleet schedule is dependant on the completion of the Camden Town upgrade¹ on the Northern Line, where afterwards the Jubilee Line can cascade the 96s over and recieve its newbies. Therefore the New tube for London destined for the Piccadilly Line will still likely happen first anyhow. ¹ ‐ and splitting into Northern Line 1/Northern Line 2
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Post by redbus on Oct 12, 2020 13:27:25 GMT
Perhaps TFL might divert some of the New Tube for London order to the Jubilee line, if this is deemed to take priority? The way I understand it the Jubilee Line's fleet schedule is dependant on the completion of the Camden Town upgrade¹ on the Northern Line, where afterwards the Jubilee Line can cascade the 96s over and recieve its newbies. Therefore the New tube for London destined for the Piccadilly Line will still likely happen first anyhow. ¹ ‐ and splitting into Northern Line 1/Northern Line 2 Would the New Tube for London actually work on the Jubilee line in that will the doors line up with the PEDs.
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