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Post by M1199 on May 29, 2017 20:04:06 GMT
What's happening with the 441 then?
Must say, I can't say I agree with those who think BF drivers are nice & friendly, having only used the 555 & 441, I've found the 441 drivers to be some of the most unhelpful, arrogant, unfriendly and selfish drivers going. Lost count of the times I've seen 441 driver's drive past passengers trying to hail the bus, ignore passengers, shut doors on passengers & argue with them.
At least it could mean that most of those aging, tired, motely bunch of Darts they've got clinging on in service can finally be put out of their misery!
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Post by Gary on May 29, 2017 21:23:50 GMT
What's happening with the 441 then? Must say, I can't say I agree with those who think BF drivers are nice & friendly, having only used the 555 & 441, I've found the 441 drivers to be some of the most unhelpful, arrogant, unfriendly and selfish drivers going. Lost count of the times I've seen 441 driver's drive past passengers trying to hail the bus, ignore passengers, shut doors on passengers & argue with them. At least it could mean that most of those aging, tired, motely bunch of Darts they've got clinging on in service can finally be put out of their misery! Using the 441 on a daily basis, I couldn't agree more. Majority of the drivers have a really poor attitude and I've had so many drive past me (particularly on Bath Road). I caught up with one once at Central Bus Station and he said that my arm wasn't out enough?
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Post by snoggle on May 29, 2017 21:38:56 GMT
Using the 441 on a daily basis, I couldn't agree more. Majority of the drivers have a really poor attitude and I've had so many drive past me (particularly on Bath Road). I caught up with one once at Central Bus Station and he said that my arm wasn't out enough? Perhaps he thought your arm should be extendable like this chap's?
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Post by John tuthill on May 29, 2017 22:05:52 GMT
Using the 441 on a daily basis, I couldn't agree more. Majority of the drivers have a really poor attitude and I've had so many drive past me (particularly on Bath Road). I caught up with one once at Central Bus Station and he said that my arm wasn't out enough? Perhaps he thought your arm should be extendable like this chap's? Or use this? Attachment Deleted
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Post by vjaska on May 29, 2017 22:41:47 GMT
What's happening with the 441 then? Must say, I can't say I agree with those who think BF drivers are nice & friendly, having only used the 555 & 441, I've found the 441 drivers to be some of the most unhelpful, arrogant, unfriendly and selfish drivers going. Lost count of the times I've seen 441 driver's drive past passengers trying to hail the bus, ignore passengers, shut doors on passengers & argue with them. At least it could mean that most of those aging, tired, motely bunch of Darts they've got clinging on in service can finally be put out of their misery! I've done three separate day trips on the Abellio Network including using the 441 about 5-6 times and couldn't quibble with any of the drivers I had or seen - the one I had on the 566/567 even got off the bus and brought a woman's shopping trolley on board and did the same when she alighted so maybe I was lucky
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Post by M1199 on May 29, 2017 23:10:17 GMT
What's happening with the 441 then? Must say, I can't say I agree with those who think BF drivers are nice & friendly, having only used the 555 & 441, I've found the 441 drivers to be some of the most unhelpful, arrogant, unfriendly and selfish drivers going. Lost count of the times I've seen 441 driver's drive past passengers trying to hail the bus, ignore passengers, shut doors on passengers & argue with them. At least it could mean that most of those aging, tired, motely bunch of Darts they've got clinging on in service can finally be put out of their misery! Using the 441 on a daily basis, I couldn't agree more. Majority of the drivers have a really poor attitude and I've had so many drive past me (particularly on Bath Road). I caught up with one once at Central Bus Station and he said that my arm wasn't out enough? I see this kind of stuff happen almost every time I'm either at T5 or the Central Bus Stn!
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Post by SN17MOA on May 30, 2017 10:17:53 GMT
Huge commiserations to Abellio surrey who have provided excellent service on all ten routes. Looks like they are now left with only the 40, 461(excluding evenings), 570, 571, 572 and 574. But however, congratulations to all the operators who has gained or retained routes especially Stagecoach who has recently lost quite a few routes in London. Although Stagecoach is not my favourite operator, at least we get to see more of a variety of buses and operators around surrey than before. Bearing in mind Abellio Surrey quit a while host of routes mid-contract and then creamed a six figure payment to run them for a further 6 months, I wouldn't have thought there are too many tears at Surrey CC. Just rewards for refusing to honour contracts I would say. Thanks for reminding me about that. Almost, slipped my mind.
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Post by twobellstogo on May 30, 2017 21:59:49 GMT
In the last few months or so, I've noticed the standards of both customer care from the drivers and vehicle condition at Abellio Surrey have slid considerably.
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Post by sid on May 31, 2017 16:21:51 GMT
Huge commiserations to Abellio surrey who have provided excellent service on all ten routes. Looks like they are now left with only the 40, 461(excluding evenings), 570, 571, 572 and 574. But however, congratulations to all the operators who has gained or retained routes especially Stagecoach who has recently lost quite a few routes in London. Although Stagecoach is not my favourite operator, at least we get to see more of a variety of buses and operators around surrey than before. Bearing in mind Abellio Surrey quit a while host of routes mid-contract and then creamed a six figure payment to run them for a further 6 months, I wouldn't have thought there are too many tears at Surrey CC. Just rewards for refusing to honour contracts I would say. I totally agree, as for Abellio drivers my experience has been fairly mixed although slightly more good than bad.
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Post by Gary on May 31, 2017 21:07:42 GMT
Not sure if it's been noted but provided the tenders are ratified at the cabinet meeting in June, the new contracts will commence end of August/beginning of September.
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Post by tony4387 on Jun 1, 2017 17:48:23 GMT
How long are these contracts for
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Post by snoggle on Jun 2, 2017 14:24:39 GMT
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Post by tony4387 on Jun 3, 2017 11:42:22 GMT
If it came to it they could always use Byfleet for TFL work if needed
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Post by tony4387 on Jun 20, 2017 20:57:30 GMT
Lots have said that hallmark will take over the contract for 555 service from first with a slight extension to the route
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Post by Gary on Jun 21, 2017 18:32:58 GMT
Lots have said that hallmark will take over the contract for 555 service from first with a slight extension to the route That's a real shame. First have seemingly done a great job with 555. I'm guessing the extension is to Heathrow Central alongside 557. All new SCC contracts will commence 2nd September and SCC are estimating savings of approx £700k per annum.
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