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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 17:33:04 GMT
So TFL are proposing the following which are subject to consultation, I'll just put the ones that are new instead of the ones some may already know of: The 161 has been added in the Rerouting in Woolwich Town centre alongside the 386 Routes 45, 46, 63, 214 and N63- Changes in Pancras Road Route W10- extension to North Middlesex Hospital Route N109- extension to Marble Arch
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Post by snowman on Sept 10, 2019 19:07:08 GMT
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Post by busaholic on Sept 10, 2019 22:48:57 GMT
So why go through the pretence that the 8 was a testbed? No time to evaluate any feedback.
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Post by lundnah on Sept 10, 2019 22:58:39 GMT
So why go through the pretence that the 8 was a testbed? No time to evaluate any feedback. The 8 was about how to implement the changes, not whether to, so four months feedback will be perfectly sufficient.
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Post by snowman on Sept 11, 2019 8:28:25 GMT
So why go through the pretence that the 8 was a testbed? No time to evaluate any feedback. The 8 was about how to implement the changes, not whether to, so four months feedback will be perfectly sufficient. The wording to the Board, suggests the feedback is just for refining the info and publicity, not about doing the changes. Copied from page 72 : We have also launched front-door only boarding on New Routemaster buses on routes 8 and the night route N8, to make sure everyone pays the correct fare and bring about greater uniformity in the way people board buses in London. We will review how effective passenger information is on this route before rolling this change out to all 1,000 New Routemaster buses in the fleet by early 2020. This will also help us tackle fare evasion and provide better priority boarding for customers who use the accessibility ramp.
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 11, 2019 8:48:51 GMT
So why go through the pretence that the 8 was a testbed? No time to evaluate any feedback. As it is listed as a revenue protection project, feedback can be quickly established .... has revenue gone up? If yes, achieved aim, so success.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 9:30:38 GMT
So why go through the pretence that the 8 was a testbed? No time to evaluate any feedback. Pretence? My understanding is that it was always intended to convert all routes to front door boarding and the 8 happens to be the first one.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 11, 2019 16:42:59 GMT
So why go through the pretence that the 8 was a testbed? No time to evaluate any feedback. Pretence? My understanding is that it was always intended to convert all routes to front door boarding and the 8 happens to be the first one. No, route 8 was a trial where if it was deemed successful that it would be rolled out to further routes.
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Post by rif153 on Sept 11, 2019 16:49:24 GMT
Pretence? My understanding is that it was always intended to convert all routes to front door boarding and the 8 happens to be the first one. No, route 8 was a trial where if it was deemed successful that it would be rolled out to further routes. And its certainly been a very succesful 'trial'
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 16:51:13 GMT
Pretence? My understanding is that it was always intended to convert all routes to front door boarding and the 8 happens to be the first one. No, route 8 was a trial where if it was deemed successful that it would be rolled out to further routes. I read different somewhere else but anyway if that is the case presumably it's been deemed a success? If revenue income is up and journey times haven't been adversely affected it's happy days.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 17:35:41 GMT
No, route 8 was a trial where if it was deemed successful that it would be rolled out to further routes. I read different somewhere else but anyway if that is the case presumably it's been deemed a success? If revenue income is up and journey times haven't been adversely affected it's happy days. Doubt there has been a huge increase in revenue, seen lots of passengers still boarding and not tapping in when they realise the readers no longer work, ironically this could have ended up in a reduction in revenue! We all knew it was a done deal and never a trial.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 11, 2019 20:31:19 GMT
It's a slight shame losing the open boarding but really you can either have faster journeys or guaranteed revenue but not both. That was realised with the Bendy buses.
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Post by snowman on Oct 2, 2019 12:56:30 GMT
TfL Finance Committee papers for 9th October meeting now out content.tfl.gov.uk/finance-committee-9-october-2019-public-agenda-documents.pdfPer page 13 of finance report (pack page 35) which covers buses : Underlying passenger journeys 1.1 % behind last year, but up against budget. Direct operating costs up on last year, driven by bus operating contracts Bus Passenger demand up 19m journeys vs (low) budget, up 18m on last year Bus Income £671m, Operating Cost £986m, Others £-7m, Loss £326m (Year to date)
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Post by snowman on Oct 17, 2019 9:21:41 GMT
Papers for next weeks Programmes and Investment Committee now up content.tfl.gov.uk/pic-20191023-agenda-and-papers-public.pdfpage 19 section 14.4 7-car trains on Reading services initially page 33 has a full page photo of one of the now withdrawn BYD deckers (clearly right hand not talking to left hand in photo choice) page 94 says 700 buses have the speed limit, and all buses are getting new mirrors by March page 95 Perivale hydrogen station goes live by March, first of the 20 Wrightbus hydrogen buses were expected in January (before Wrightbus went into administration) page 100 Have got a new tool that uses bus telemetary data, to identify when buses are exceeding speed limit
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Post by snowman on Nov 5, 2019 19:34:27 GMT
Safety, Sustainability, Human Resources Committee papers for next week now available content.tfl.gov.uk/sshrp-13-november-2019-agenda-and-papers.pdfPage 72 : now 7700 buses meeting next years ULEZ standard (which suggests to me the upgrades might be completed by about April, 5 months ahead of deadline) Page 114 has a map showing proposed speed limits, great big chunks of 20mph zones including some major roads like A10, parts of South Circular, A1, A4, A24 . . . . Buses going to get even slower and travelling any distance by road across London will be a painfully time consuming process.
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