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Post by lundnah on Nov 29, 2018 10:39:47 GMT
So...
140: cut back from Heathrow Airport to Hayes & Harlington (except at night)
X140: NEW LIMITED STOP ROUTE from Harrow to Heathrow (see 140) 218: NEW ROUTE from North Acton to Hammersmith (see 266 and 440) 223: cut back from Harrow to Northwick Park Hospital
266: cut back from Hammersmith to Acton Town Hall (except at night) 278: NEW ROUTE from Ruislip to Heathrow via Hayes & Harlington (see 140)
306: NEW ROUTE from Acton Vale to Fulham, Sand's End (see 266 and 391) 391: cut back from Fulham to Hammersmith 427: cut back from Acton to Southall
440: diverted to serve Acton Main Line
E10: larger single deckers introduced
Will be happening later
95: extended to Southall Waterside
E5: diverted in Southall via Burns Avenue
H32: extended from Southall to Hayes & Harlington
Won't be happening 112: extended from Ealing Broadway to Osterley, Tesco
120: frequency increase E1: frequency reduction E10: frequency increase
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Post by redexpress on Nov 29, 2018 12:06:44 GMT
Disappointing (but not really surprising) to see that many of these routes will be running at lower frequencies than had been proposed in the consultation. Evening and Sunday frequencies are particularly poor with the 218, 278 and 306 running x20 mins. That'll be fun for airport workers who currently pack out the 140s at an x10 min frequency in the evenings. Yes the X140 will take a lot of the load but those who don't live near an X140 stop will now have to depend on the low-frequency 278.
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Post by snoggle on Nov 29, 2018 12:35:00 GMT
Disappointing (but not really surprising) to see that many of these routes will be running at lower frequencies than had been proposed in the consultation. Evening and Sunday frequencies are particularly poor with the 218, 278 and 306 running x20 mins. That'll be fun for airport workers who currently pack out the 140s at an x10 min frequency in the evenings. Yes the X140 will take a lot of the load but those who don't live near an X140 stop will now have to depend on the low-frequency 278. I must be missing something here. I thought all of the Crossrail consultation results, including scaled back service levels / non double decking / delayed routes, were reported months ago. I can't see any change in these reported "updates" dated 27 Nov. Je suis confused.
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Post by uakari on Nov 29, 2018 12:41:44 GMT
So much for the 112 extension being one of the 'whole number' of improvements to outer London bus services that Heidi Alexander could talk about. I'm not sure she was referring to that proposal as the Crossrail consultations have had their reports out for months now - the 112 was the worst route to extend given the heavy traffic on the A406 which impacts on it daily. She did specifically mention the 112 in Ealing rather than in Finchley.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 13:06:12 GMT
Disappointing (but not really surprising) to see that many of these routes will be running at lower frequencies than had been proposed in the consultation. Evening and Sunday frequencies are particularly poor with the 218, 278 and 306 running x20 mins. That'll be fun for airport workers who currently pack out the 140s at an x10 min frequency in the evenings. Yes the X140 will take a lot of the load but those who don't live near an X140 stop will now have to depend on the low-frequency 278. I must be missing something here. I thought all of the Crossrail consultation results, including scaled back service levels / non double decking / delayed routes, were reported months ago. I can't see any change in these reported "updates" dated 27 Nov. Je suis confused. Same here ...
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Post by snowman on Nov 29, 2018 13:09:34 GMT
I must be missing something here. I thought all of the Crossrail consultation results, including scaled back service levels / non double decking / delayed routes, were reported months ago. I can't see any change in these reported "updates" dated 27 Nov. Je suis confused. Same here ... When I linked the updates, I had no idea what has changed, presumably something, but now sounds like not a lot. Unless anyone saved or printed the old update, I can't tell
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Post by redexpress on Nov 29, 2018 14:00:20 GMT
Disappointing (but not really surprising) to see that many of these routes will be running at lower frequencies than had been proposed in the consultation. Evening and Sunday frequencies are particularly poor with the 218, 278 and 306 running x20 mins. That'll be fun for airport workers who currently pack out the 140s at an x10 min frequency in the evenings. Yes the X140 will take a lot of the load but those who don't live near an X140 stop will now have to depend on the low-frequency 278. I must be missing something here. I thought all of the Crossrail consultation results, including scaled back service levels / non double decking / delayed routes, were reported months ago. I can't see any change in these reported "updates" dated 27 Nov. Je suis confused. I'm sure you're right. I was trying to figure out what exactly was new so had a good look at the frequencies, and it's only now that I've realised just how low some of these frequencies are.
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Post by busaholic on Nov 29, 2018 19:15:44 GMT
I'm not sure she was referring to that proposal as the Crossrail consultations have had their reports out for months now - the 112 was the worst route to extend given the heavy traffic on the A406 which impacts on it daily. She did specifically mention the 112 in Ealing rather than in Finchley. I think she was referring to the earth-shattering news that the 112 would get a whole extra bph - hold the front page!
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Post by londonbuses2018 on Nov 29, 2018 21:02:22 GMT
I personally never liked the the idea of 112 to Oysterley Tesco wouldn’t that make the route a bit longer, however with this whole Brent Cross Shopping Centre regeneration we may see route changes in the area.
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Post by M1199 on Nov 30, 2018 17:17:22 GMT
After reading the Consultation Summary, it really annoys me when organisations and companies use the terminology 'forecast' It my line of work (airline catering), that word gets used an awful lot and an awful lot of the time they get their 'forecast' wrong! I hope TfL gets their @rse bitten by some of these changes, especially the 427 & 140 changes, still think the 427 change will be a recipe for disaster, just can't see Uxbridge Rd users abandoning it in favour of Crossrail services. Just think of poor old Doris (apologies if anyone has a relative by such name!) with her shopping trolley, trying to board a jam packed 207/607 at Southall Police Station on a busy Saturday daytime along with the hoards that always board at that stop, trying to get to Hanwell Broadway! - Oh, but TfL will tell her to get Crossrail between both places, Hope she's able to do the walk between the Station and the Broadway! With this 'we'll do what we want' attitude that TfL seems to display nowadays, it's no wonder why passengers are leaving by their droves and onto their own vehicles, myself included! Sorry, rant over!
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Post by portman227 on Dec 3, 2018 18:07:22 GMT
Have TFL given a fixed date as to when these changes will be implemented. Some of the changes such as X140 could start before part of the cross rail is opened?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 12:27:02 GMT
Some of them are due to be implemented from May 2019.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:29:16 GMT
Some of them are due to be implemented from May 2019. Yet for example the X140, has it been revealed that buses will need to be ordered, probably the 278 might need a couple more buses. Finally has it been revealed who the operator will be?
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Post by Lukeo on Dec 4, 2018 16:39:25 GMT
Will the 140 receive a frequency decrease alongside the launch of the X140?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:50:29 GMT
Will the 140 receive a frequency decrease alongside the launch of the X140? It will as it'll be cut short and these buses will probably be used on the X140, yet there will need to be a few more buses to top it up
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