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Post by rif153 on Oct 12, 2019 8:56:54 GMT
Today is the last day of Arriva VLAs so Volvo double deck chassis B7TL will now be rare in London Used to be very common, it succeeded the Volvo Olympian chassis about 20 years ago Now just handful with GoAhead (early WVL) and handful with Metroline (VP class) remain in use And these are the last Alexander bodied B7TLs in London A truly sad time. It'll be a huge shame to see the VLAs withdrawn as the ALX400 purge is close to completion. I had a great journey on one from Claybury Broadway to Becontree Heath a while back, it made the 128's pretty boring routing more interesting. It does make me happy a few have lived on to today, rather than being immediately stood down with a VLA on the 173 and one on the 368 at the moment.
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Post by snowman on Nov 14, 2019 6:14:31 GMT
I doubt there will be any pre 2006 bus(EuroIII) in London by around winter. It's weird to think that after the last few Plaxtons and ALX's won't be around very soon, and we will start to see numbers of Euro 4 Enviro 400 start to leave. Time has truly flown and I wish Stagecoach would do a farewell tour and put the last few ALX's on the 8 for example Most recent list, taken from another thread Of these the Abellio 3 might see out K1 contract, the RATP SPs probably last to Easter school holidays (after 94 electric bus cascade), Stagecoach 19000 probably survive a year, and Sullivan 3 depends on when they can source buses about 5-9 years old, but agree remainder probably gone by winter as Arriva lose 197 and 128, GoAhead could replace LDPs after 100 gets new buses, and most of the others are just spares. Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : DW 098, 099, 101, 102, 104-111, 113-117 Arriva : VLA 057, 116, 126-143 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : PVL 284 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 119, 189, 204, 205, 238-240, 249, 250 Metroline : TA 642, 648 Metroline : VP 534, 549, 614 RATP : SP 40001-40009 Stagecoach : 17791, 17811, 17836, 17843, 17858, 17864, 17979, 17981, 18208, 18465, 18484, 18494 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : ELV 06 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927 3 months on from above, many of the 2006 or earlier buses are still going, but some types have gone. Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : VLA 057, 128, 130, 131 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 189, 204, 205, 238, 239, 249, 250 Metroline : TA 642, 648 Metroline: VP 534, 549, 614 RATP : SP 40001-40008 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927
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Post by COBO on Nov 14, 2019 6:55:07 GMT
Most recent list, taken from another thread Of these the Abellio 3 might see out K1 contract, the RATP SPs probably last to Easter school holidays (after 94 electric bus cascade), Stagecoach 19000 probably survive a year, and Sullivan 3 depends on when they can source buses about 5-9 years old, but agree remainder probably gone by winter as Arriva lose 197 and 128, GoAhead could replace LDPs after 100 gets new buses, and most of the others are just spares. Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : DW 098, 099, 101, 102, 104-111, 113-117 Arriva : VLA 057, 116, 126-143 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : PVL 284 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 119, 189, 204, 205, 238-240, 249, 250 Metroline : TA 642, 648 Metroline : VP 534, 549, 614 RATP : SP 40001-40009 Stagecoach : 17791, 17811, 17836, 17843, 17858, 17864, 17979, 17981, 18208, 18465, 18484, 18494 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : ELV 06 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927 3 months on from above, many of the 2006 or earlier buses are still going, but some types have gone. Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : VLA 057, 128, 130, 131 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 189, 204, 205, 238, 239, 249, 250 Metroline : TA 642, 648 Metroline: VP 614 RATP : SP 40001-40008 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927 What happened to VP 534 and 549?
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Post by snowman on Nov 14, 2019 8:35:29 GMT
3 months on from above, many of the 2006 or earlier buses are still going, but some types have gone. Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : VLA 057, 128, 130, 131 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 189, 204, 205, 238, 239, 249, 250 Metroline : TA 642, 648 Metroline: VP 534, 549, 614 RATP : SP 40001-40008 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927 What happened to VP 534 and 549? corrected now
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Post by snowman on Dec 4, 2019 12:40:11 GMT
I doubt there will be any pre 2006 bus(EuroIII) in London by around winter. It's weird to think that after the last few Plaxtons and ALX's won't be around very soon, and we will start to see numbers of Euro 4 Enviro 400 start to leave. Time has truly flown and I wish Stagecoach would do a farewell tour and put the last few ALX's on the 8 for example 33 buses still hanging on, I think this is complete list of pre 2007 buses still being used I think all the euroIII gained filters few years ago to make them equivalent to euroIV Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : VLA 057, 128, 130, 131 Go Ahead : E 38, 39 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 189, 204, 205, 238, 239, 249, 250 Metroline : VP 534, 549, 614 RATP : SP 40001-40008 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927 Not that many 2007 buses remaining either
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Post by SILENCED on Dec 4, 2019 13:02:57 GMT
I doubt there will be any pre 2006 bus(EuroIII) in London by around winter. It's weird to think that after the last few Plaxtons and ALX's won't be around very soon, and we will start to see numbers of Euro 4 Enviro 400 start to leave. Time has truly flown and I wish Stagecoach would do a farewell tour and put the last few ALX's on the 8 for example 31 buses still hanging on, I think this is complete list of pre 2007 buses still being used I think all the euroIII gained filters few years ago to make them equivalent to euroIV Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : VLA 057, 128, 130, 131 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 189, 204, 205, 238, 239, 249, 250 Metroline : VP 534, 549, 614 RATP : SP 40001-40008 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927 Not that many 2007 buses remaining either You got E38/39 to add, not sure whether the 56-reg are 2006 or 2007 Actually surprised the VLAs are still in service ... had expected them to be replaced by 08-reg Ts from AD. Maybe there is a blind requirement, and waiting on tender awards to see if it is worth buying new blind sets.
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Post by foxhat on Dec 4, 2019 13:29:49 GMT
Metroline have VP534, 544, 549 & 614 all going Also TE715 is still plying its trade
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Post by YY13VKP on Dec 4, 2019 14:13:41 GMT
I doubt there will be any pre 2006 bus(EuroIII) in London by around winter. It's weird to think that after the last few Plaxtons and ALX's won't be around very soon, and we will start to see numbers of Euro 4 Enviro 400 start to leave. Time has truly flown and I wish Stagecoach would do a farewell tour and put the last few ALX's on the 8 for example 31 buses still hanging on, I think this is complete list of pre 2007 buses still being used I think all the euroIII gained filters few years ago to make them equivalent to euroIV Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : VLA 057, 128, 130, 131 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 189, 204, 205, 238, 239, 249, 250 Metroline : VP 534, 549, 614 RATP : SP 40001-40008 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927 Not that many 2007 buses remaining either Arriva still have most of their 2007 E200’s still going apart from ENL2 and ENL4 that were withdrawn at the end of the 166 contract
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Post by richard on Dec 4, 2019 14:21:43 GMT
31 buses still hanging on, I think this is complete list of pre 2007 buses still being used I think all the euroIII gained filters few years ago to make them equivalent to euroIV Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : VLA 057, 128, 130, 131 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 189, 204, 205, 238, 239, 249, 250 Metroline : VP 534, 549, 614 RATP : SP 40001-40008 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927 Not that many 2007 buses remaining either Arriva still have most of their 2007 E200’s still going apart from ENL2 and ENL4 that were withdrawn at the end of the 166 contract ENL1 is also withdrawn according to vjaska fleet list
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Post by E279 on Dec 4, 2019 15:04:06 GMT
Arriva still have most of their 2007 E200’s still going apart from ENL2 and ENL4 that were withdrawn at the end of the 166 contract ENL1 is also withdrawn according to vjaska fleet list They should in theory start to go when the 428 becomes DW operated as the ENX are destined elsewhere I think and also when the 347 & 469 enters a new contract.
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Post by richard on Dec 4, 2019 15:11:48 GMT
ENL1 is also withdrawn according to vjaska fleet list They should in theory start to go when the 428 becomes DW operated as the ENX are destined elsewhere I think and also when the 347 & 469 enters a new contract. Wasn't the 347 remaining signal decker?
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Post by vjaska on Dec 4, 2019 15:21:33 GMT
ENL1 is also withdrawn according to vjaska fleet list They should in theory start to go when the 428 becomes DW operated as the ENX are destined elsewhere I think and also when the 347 & 469 enters a new contract. The B15 is the route converting to ENX whenever the 428 goes decker be it January or later.
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Post by E279 on Dec 4, 2019 15:21:41 GMT
They should in theory start to go when the 428 becomes DW operated as the ENX are destined elsewhere I think and also when the 347 & 469 enters a new contract. Wasn't the 347 remaining signal decker? The 347 cannot become a double deck route due to a low bridge. I commented about the awarding/retention of the routes will lead to the loss of the 07 reg ENLs along with the 428s conversion to DW operation and PVR drop.
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Post by E279 on Dec 4, 2019 15:22:22 GMT
They should in theory start to go when the 428 becomes DW operated as the ENX are destined elsewhere I think and also when the 347 & 469 enters a new contract. The B15 is the route converting to ENX whenever the 428 goes decker be it January or later. Ah, I thought it was one of the B routes. Thanks for confirming.
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Post by snowman on Dec 5, 2019 18:33:37 GMT
31 buses still hanging on, I think this is complete list of pre 2007 buses still being used I think all the euroIII gained filters few years ago to make them equivalent to euroIV Abellio : 8020, 8024, 8037 Arriva : VLA 057, 128, 130, 131 Go Ahead : E 38, 39 Go Ahead : LDP 206, 274 Go Ahead : WVL 111, 189, 204, 205, 238, 239, 249, 250 Metroline : VP 534, 549, 614 RATP : SP 40001-40008 Stagecoach : 19000 Sullivan : TPL 926, 927 Not that many 2007 buses remaining either You got E38/39 to add, not sure whether the 56-reg are 2006 or 2007 Actually surprised the VLAs are still in service ... had expected them to be replaced by 08-reg Ts from AD. Maybe there is a blind requirement, and waiting on tender awards to see if it is worth buying new blind sets. E1-39 were 2006, E40-93 were 2007 per LOTs fleetbook
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