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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 18, 2017 14:44:23 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Sept 18, 2017 16:26:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 12:24:12 GMT
Haha and cut night bus routes. Good show.
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Post by planesandtrains on Sept 19, 2017 19:38:07 GMT
So we get two vintage bus running days in one week.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 19, 2017 19:49:22 GMT
So we get two vintage bus running days in one week. Given that it is ASLEF that are in dispute don't hold your breath for the vintage bus run out. ASLEF usually manage to get a deal they can sell to their members - especially on the tube. RMT tend to go on strike rather more and are harder to get a deal out of. Obviously we shall see what transpires.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 19, 2017 20:42:55 GMT
Which lines are affected as I've realised I'm travelling to the O2 on that day?
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Post by paulsw2 on Sept 19, 2017 20:49:22 GMT
Which lines are affected as I've realised I'm travelling to the O2 on that day? All lines will be affected highly likely NO trains will operate or extremely skeleton service Unless management abide by the agreements they made
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Post by vjaska on Sept 19, 2017 20:51:32 GMT
Which lines are affected as I've realised I'm travelling to the O2 on that day? All lines will be affected highly likely NO trains will operate or extremely skeleton service Thanks for that - looks like the P4 & 108 for me then.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 19, 2017 21:15:21 GMT
Which lines are affected as I've realised I'm travelling to the O2 on that day? No one knows at this stage but if ASLEF get a high turnout then don't expect very much to run. Vic Line has, or used to have, a high RMT membership amongst train operators so that may run some sort of service. If I was you I'd be looking at doing something clever about getting to Greenwich or Charlton to pick up a connecting buses. Alternatively get on to the Overground somehow and hope Canada Water station is open and get a 188 bus. Obviously there are no guarantees with any rail or road connection on a strike day.
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Post by twobellstogo on Sept 19, 2017 22:18:37 GMT
Which lines are affected as I've realised I'm travelling to the O2 on that day? No one knows at this stage but if ASLEF get a high turnout then don't expect very much to run. Vic Line has, or used to have, a high RMT membership amongst train operators so that may run some sort of service. If I was you I'd be looking at doing something clever about getting to Greenwich or Charlton to pick up a connecting buses. Alternatively get on to the Overground somehow and hope Canada Water station is open and get a 188 bus. Obviously there are no guarantees with any rail or road connection on a strike day. The 108 is always awful on a tube strike day and is best avoided if possible. I think from Brixton, I would get a bus to Denmark Hill, London Overground to Surrey Quays then 188, or P4 to Lewisham, then if you time it well, the SE service from Leiwsham to Charlton, then the 486 from outside the station. If not, DLR to Greenwich, SE to Westcombe Park, then I'd probably walk from there. Tube strikes of course generally disproportionately affect North and East London more, so invariably there are plenty more good options for travel here down south on tube strike days that work well. Apart from maybe Waterloo mainline being more crowded than usual, I envisage a reasonable commute from Barnehurst to West Molesey on October 5
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Post by redexpress on Sept 20, 2017 1:26:13 GMT
No one knows at this stage but if ASLEF get a high turnout then don't expect very much to run. Vic Line has, or used to have, a high RMT membership amongst train operators so that may run some sort of service. If I was you I'd be looking at doing something clever about getting to Greenwich or Charlton to pick up a connecting buses. Alternatively get on to the Overground somehow and hope Canada Water station is open and get a 188 bus. Obviously there are no guarantees with any rail or road connection on a strike day. The 108 is always awful on a tube strike day and is best avoided if possible. I think from Brixton, I would get a bus to Denmark Hill, London Overground to Surrey Quays then 188, or P4 to Lewisham, then if you time it well, the SE service from Leiwsham to Charlton, then the 486 from outside the station. If not, DLR to Greenwich, SE to Westcombe Park, then I'd probably walk from there. Tube strikes of course generally disproportionately affect North and East London more, so invariably there are plenty more good options for travel here down south on tube strike days that work well. Apart from maybe Waterloo mainline being more crowded than usual, I envisage a reasonable commute from Barnehurst to West Molesey on October 5 Southeastern from Denmark Hill to Blackheath would also be an option. It's a half-hourly service so would need to be timed right at Denmark Hill. From Blackheath, if the 108's up the spout, there's the option of taking another bus to Royal Standard then the 422. Alternatively 386 to Greenwich then 129/188.
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Post by sid on Sept 20, 2017 15:22:09 GMT
Haha and cut night bus routes. Good show. Obviously excessive buses cannot be run just in case there is a tube strike, presumably Ensign and various other sub contractors will be making an appearance?
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Post by snoggle on Sept 20, 2017 15:47:01 GMT
Haha and cut night bus routes. Good show. Obviously excessive buses cannot be run just in case there is a tube strike, presumably Ensign and various other sub contractors will be making an appearance? No one has suggested that extra buses be run. I merely observed that a rationalised bus network with rather less capacity than before will suddenly be put under some very significant strain. Whether passengers spot what has happened in terms of cuts remains to be seen. Can't see the 11 coping very well on its own out of Liverpool St as there will no 23 come 5 October. If the strike goes ahead then yes I am sure TfL will drag in as many extra buses as it can find but whether that makes any sort of substantive difference to people's ability to get around remains to be seen. It will also be interesting to see where they decide to deploy those extra buses.
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Post by sid on Sept 20, 2017 16:14:12 GMT
Obviously excessive buses cannot be run just in case there is a tube strike, presumably Ensign and various other sub contractors will be making an appearance? No one has suggested that extra buses be run. I merely observed that a rationalised bus network with rather less capacity than before will suddenly be put under some very significant strain. Whether passengers spot what has happened in terms of cuts remains to be seen. Can't see the 11 coping very well on its own out of Liverpool St as there will no 23 come 5 October. If the strike goes ahead then yes I am sure TfL will drag in as many extra buses as it can find but whether that makes any sort of substantive difference to people's ability to get around remains to be seen. It will also be interesting to see where they decide to deploy those extra buses. The 23 seems to have coped on the Aldwych to Liverpool Street section without the 11. It probably won't be much different to previous tube strike days given the fall in bus usage in Central London.
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Post by snowman on Sept 20, 2017 17:12:52 GMT
No one has suggested that extra buses be run. I merely observed that a rationalised bus network with rather less capacity than before will suddenly be put under some very significant strain. Whether passengers spot what has happened in terms of cuts remains to be seen. Can't see the 11 coping very well on its own out of Liverpool St as there will no 23 come 5 October. If the strike goes ahead then yes I am sure TfL will drag in as many extra buses as it can find but whether that makes any sort of substantive difference to people's ability to get around remains to be seen. It will also be interesting to see where they decide to deploy those extra buses. The 23 seems to have coped on the Aldwych to Liverpool Street section without the 11. It probably won't be much different to previous tube strike days given the fall in bus usage in Central London. A one day strike after a long interval doesn't always have much effect, as many commuters will just choose it as a holiday or work at home day. Occasional travellers will just change their day to one where tube is running. Obviously if there are multiple days, or another strike just a few days afterwards this option becomes less likely.
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