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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 19, 2017 15:41:09 GMT
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 19, 2017 16:11:09 GMT
Are the unions trying to deliberately bring down our entire transport system?? Just read on the BBC it is affecting CentreComm only, not iBus hubs, so will not cause much disruption apart from unanswered Code Red/Blue calls or Road Closures/NOE's that need to be sent to the company. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 19, 2017 16:39:28 GMT
Just realised this already is the discussion on another thread, can the mods merge the two threads, or maybe lock this one to prevent confusion?
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Post by MoEnviro on Sept 19, 2017 16:59:28 GMT
Are the unions trying to deliberately bring down our entire transport system?? The start of a 'winter of discontent'?? |
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Post by Nathan on Sept 19, 2017 18:10:23 GMT
Can we just scrap unions already and stop this mess?   |
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Post by Paul on Sept 19, 2017 18:50:51 GMT
Are the unions trying to deliberately bring down our entire transport system?? Just read on the BBC it is affecting CentreComm only, not iBus hubs, so will not cause much disruption apart from unanswered Code Red/Blue calls or Road Closures/NOE's that need to be sent to the company. Code Red will still be available but not Code Blue. Last time CentreComm went on strike TfL drafted in 'specially trained' operatives to take care of Code Red calls. Code Blue calls were to be directed to your iBus controllers. I believe last time was over the August Bank Holiday with the associated downturn in services and to be honest I barely noticed any difference apart from different voices over the radio! |
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Post by rambo on Sept 19, 2017 19:01:25 GMT
Good.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 19, 2017 23:24:01 GMT
Are the unions trying to deliberately bring down our entire transport system?? Just read on the BBC it is affecting CentreComm only, not iBus hubs, so will not cause much disruption apart from unanswered Code Red/Blue calls or Road Closures/NOE's that need to be sent to the company. Oh please - less of the melodrama. If you treat your staff badly and ignore differentials eventually people twig that they are being left behind in terms of wages / T&Cs. As we are not yet a nation of surfs and slaves grovelling at the feet of employers then people are perfectly, and rightly, entitled to withdraw their labour. I really do not see how a strike that will have little obvious impact on the travelling public is "bringing down the entire transport system". The other major issue for TfL is that they have allowed a great many experienced people to leave their organisation. The people left behind do not have the same working relationships and "antennae" to be able to spot trouble looming. This seems to be particularly bad inside LUL where outsiders have come in and seemingly don't really know what they are doing. Whether anyone likes it or not the way to avoid strikes is to have a mature, grown up relationship between management and unions. I've had the odd chat, years ago, with very seasoned hands involved in employee relations. They knew exactly what was going on all over the railway. They knew what the "jungle drums" were saying and what was serious and what wasn't. It takes years to build up that sort of network of information gathering and to be able to have sensible chats with union people to suss out what's going on. People despised Bob Crow, largely because the Mail and Sun tried to demonise him, but people who had the working relationship with him knew a deal could be struck with Mr Crow. They knew what was "bluster" and what was serious. Mr Crow didn't want people on strike - he wanted decent, saleable deals that kept his members happy and earning money. Management want workers at work and know nothing ever comes for free so a bit of common sense shows a compromise can always be reached if people cut the ego and grandstanding and try to make things work. It's like any negotiation and if anyone has had negotiation training or actually negotiated they know this. All you youngsters need a trip back to the 1970s and early 80s in a Tardis to experience what strikes were really all about. The situation today is nothing remotely like it was back then.   |
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Post by snoggle on Sept 20, 2017 16:16:53 GMT
Strike seemingly off now after an improved pay offer. |
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