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Post by snoggle on Apr 23, 2019 21:02:04 GMT
I have just heard the BBC local news and as I understand matters what the Commissioner was accused of in the London Assembly report was that warnings the project would not open on time were downplayed by the Commissioner. In terms of replacement Commissioners I can think of a number of candidates (oddly all with bus backgrounds as I feel that is what is now needed!), but whether the Mayor would want them, or even if they were willing to do the job is another matter!!!! It was clear the last time the current Crossrail set up was in front of the Transport Cttee that the E-mail thing had been picked up by the Cttee. They challenged Howard Smith multiple times about what the various E mails meant and what process was being run. They singled out Mike Brown's involvement then as Howard couldn't exactly deny his involvement although he tried his best to downplay what it all meant. It was obvious they felt they had found a weakness to pounce upon. This is going to run and run and run. It will be the stick they regularly clobber MB with. "But Commissioner how can we accept what you are telling us given what you did with Crossrail project updates?" Caroline Pidgeon has already rehearsed this line on a TV interview today.
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Post by busman on Apr 23, 2019 22:30:15 GMT
I have just heard the BBC local news and as I understand matters what the Commissioner was accused of in the London Assembly report was that warnings the project would not open on time were downplayed by the Commissioner. In terms of replacement Commissioners I can think of a number of candidates (oddly all with bus backgrounds as I feel that is what is now needed!), but whether the Mayor would want them, or even if they were willing to do the job is another matter!!!! Report is here, even has examples of emails where he has deleted the warnings before they went to the mayor www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/final_-_london_assembly_transport_committee_crossrail_investigation_report_0.pdfThrough his repeated decisions to mask warnings about the progress of Crossrail, the Commissioner has put the Mayor in a very difficult situation and has not acted in a transparent way. He needs to do the honourable thing and step down. Terry Morgan shouldn’t be the only one to face consequences for their actions. The way this project has been handled is a national embarrassment. A delay of a year would have been tolerable, but the extent of the work still to be done with no opening date for the central core in sight highlights the extent of what was hidden and is an absolute disgrace. As a taxpayer, I’m very concerned about the wastage of public funds on huge salaries paid for abject failure and having to help foot the bill for their failure.
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Post by redbus on Apr 23, 2019 23:24:18 GMT
Through his repeated decisions to mask warnings about the progress of Crossrail, the Commissioner has put the Mayor in a very difficult situation and has not acted in a transparent way. He needs to do the honourable thing and step down. Terry Morgan shouldn’t be the only one to face consequences for their actions. The way this project has been handled is a national embarrassment. A delay of a year would have been tolerable, but the extent of the work still to be done with no opening date for the central core in sight highlights the extent of what was hidden and is an absolute disgrace. As a taxpayer, I’m very concerned about the wastage of public funds on huge salaries paid for abject failure and having to help foot the bill for their failure. He has also put himself in a difficult position, and perhaps I am being naïve but I am not sure the gain was worth it.
I too am very concerned about Crossrail. I am less concerned in some respects whether the delay is 1 or 2 years or some other figure. What I find particularly disturbing is that we are told all is on schedule, and then suddenly there is this delay which is out of all proportion to the amount time left (weeks) from the announcement of the delay to the opening date. It is also disturbing that no opening date can be given. These points must surely combine to show that the December 2018 opening date should have been known to have been unrealistic a lot earlier.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 24, 2019 8:23:34 GMT
He has also put himself in a difficult position, and perhaps I am being naïve but I am not sure the gain was worth it.
I too am very concerned about Crossrail. I am less concerned in some respects whether the delay is 1 or 2 years or some other figure. What I find particularly disturbing is that we are told all is on schedule, and then suddenly there is this delay which is out of all proportion to the amount time left (weeks) from the announcement of the delay to the opening date. It is also disturbing that no opening date can be given. These points must surely combine to show that the December 2018 opening date should have been known to have been unrealistic a lot earlier. Having worked with Mike Brown a long while ago I am surprised he has made the mistake he has. Obviously people change as do the pressures they are under but even so I'd not have expected him to be (possibly) "undone" by something like amending comms messages. I'm also amazed there was a paper trail. If you are going to do that sort of thing then you do it by phone or face to face! The warning signs about potential delays were evident a year in advance in terms of the independent assessor. Why those warnings were seemingly ignored is beyond me even if you are allow for the "we're going to make it" gung ho attitude on the project. However my alarm bells were going off at least 18 months ago because 3 or 4 worksites were routinely not being mentioned in any Crossrail updates - they were Bond St, Paddington, Whitechapel and Moorgate / Liv St. There was only one plausible reason for not reporting - things were either going badly or were very delayed and guess which are the problem sites?? And that's just me noticing what was NOT being said. Therefore Crossrail themselves knew even if they wouldn't admit it formally that these sites were a mess because they wouldn't boast about them to the public!!
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Post by busman on Apr 24, 2019 15:13:02 GMT
I have just heard the BBC local news and as I understand matters what the Commissioner was accused of in the London Assembly report was that warnings the project would not open on time were downplayed by the Commissioner. In terms of replacement Commissioners I can think of a number of candidates (oddly all with bus backgrounds as I feel that is what is now needed!), but whether the Mayor would want them, or even if they were willing to do the job is another matter!!!! It was clear the last time the current Crossrail set up was in front of the Transport Cttee that the E-mail thing had been picked up by the Cttee. They challenged Howard Smith multiple times about what the various E mails meant and what process was being run. They singled out Mike Brown's involvement then as Howard couldn't exactly deny his involvement although he tried his best to downplay what it all meant. It was obvious they felt they had found a weakness to pounce upon. This is going to run and run and run. It will be the stick they regularly clobber MB with. "But Commissioner how can we accept what you are telling us given what you did with Crossrail project updates?" Caroline Pidgeon has already rehearsed this line on a TV interview today. The London Assembly posted this a few hours ago in a promoted tweet: “E-mails between @crossrail and @tfl suggest that communications to @mayorofldn were watered down by Commissioner Mike Brown, instead of flagging risks to the timetable early. That's why we're asking him to reflect on whether he is fit to fulfill his role.” The vultures are circling.....
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Post by busaholic on Apr 24, 2019 17:54:03 GMT
It was clear the last time the current Crossrail set up was in front of the Transport Cttee that the E-mail thing had been picked up by the Cttee. They challenged Howard Smith multiple times about what the various E mails meant and what process was being run. They singled out Mike Brown's involvement then as Howard couldn't exactly deny his involvement although he tried his best to downplay what it all meant. It was obvious they felt they had found a weakness to pounce upon. This is going to run and run and run. It will be the stick they regularly clobber MB with. "But Commissioner how can we accept what you are telling us given what you did with Crossrail project updates?" Caroline Pidgeon has already rehearsed this line on a TV interview today. The London Assembly posted this a few hours ago in a promoted tweet: “E-mails between @crossrail and @tfl suggest that communications to @mayorofldn were watered down by Commissioner Mike Brown, instead of flagging risks to the timetable early. That's why we're asking him to reflect on whether he is fit to fulfill his role.” The vultures are circling..... Sounds like curtains to me for MB, but what it will achieve for the 'project' if that comes about is unclear. Never mind the stations, though, even if they'd all been on time and budget the fundamental signalling problems don't go away and nothing I've read suggests they are nearer solving, although others more knowledgeable than me may disagree, and perhaps they are insoluble without fundamental changes. How bad would it be if all the stations, maybe bar one or two, were ready and, more important, known to be ready and yet nothing was running for months/years after? Croydon Tramlink on a much huger scale!
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Post by snowman on Apr 24, 2019 18:37:34 GMT
The London Assembly posted this a few hours ago in a promoted tweet: “E-mails between @crossrail and @tfl suggest that communications to @mayorofldn were watered down by Commissioner Mike Brown, instead of flagging risks to the timetable early. That's why we're asking him to reflect on whether he is fit to fulfill his role.” The vultures are circling..... Sounds like curtains to me for MB, but what it will achieve for the 'project' if that comes about is unclear. Never mind the stations, though, even if they'd all been on time and budget the fundamental signalling problems don't go away and nothing I've read suggests they are nearer solving, although others more knowledgeable than me may disagree, and perhaps they are insoluble without fundamental changes. How bad would it be if all the stations, maybe bar one or two, were ready and, more important, known to be ready and yet nothing was running for months/years after? Croydon Tramlink on a much huger scale! www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/transport-commissioner-faces-assembly-grillingHis grilling is available to watch live on webcast (link within above website) Other transport topics also on the agenda, with buses at bottom of list
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 16:55:00 GMT
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Post by MoEnviro on Apr 25, 2019 17:22:56 GMT
Confirmed as between Oct 2020-Mar 2021 with Bond Street not opening at all within that period.
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Post by COBO on Apr 25, 2019 17:39:22 GMT
My reaction to the opening of Crossrail from 2020 to 2021.
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Post by busaholic on Apr 25, 2019 18:01:02 GMT
My reaction to the opening of Crossrail from 2020 to 2021. You're Sir Patrick Stewart in real life?
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Post by snowman on Apr 25, 2019 18:37:24 GMT
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Post by DT 11 on Apr 25, 2019 19:24:56 GMT
Confirmed as between Oct 2020-Mar 2021 with Bond Street not opening at all within that period. Another extension for the Crossfail
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Post by John tuthill on Apr 25, 2019 19:26:05 GMT
My reaction to the opening of Crossrail from 2020 to 2021. You're Sir Patrick Stewart in real life? "It's stardate 3456 and it's STILL not opened!! (Good job be can beam ourselves from Reading to Shenfield!)"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 19:31:27 GMT
What will arrive first Crossrail or Brexit!
Joking aside I wonder if the bus related changes (Apart from the 301) will go ahead in 2020/2021 or will TfL go back to the drawing board and run a fresh consultation.
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