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Post by snowman on Mar 26, 2018 9:01:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 12:58:45 GMT
More trains for the Lizard Line. Five extra up to 70 units.
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Post by snoggle on Mar 27, 2018 16:24:55 GMT
More trains for the Lizard Line. Five extra up to 70 units. This is all a bit bizarre as the TfL Board granted approval for the trains in July last year. Back then the order was to take the fleet from 66 to 70 trains. 8 months later we get confirmation that an order for 5 trains (from 65 to 70) is placed. Odd that TfL and Bombardier press offices have different views of the fleet size and variation quantity. Quite why it has taken 8 months to agree an order for 4 or 5 trains is beyond me. Normally these orders are placed immediately.
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Post by snowman on Mar 27, 2018 17:04:44 GMT
More trains for the Lizard Line. Five extra up to 70 units. This is all a bit bizarre as the TfL Board granted approval for the trains in July last year. Back then the order was to take the fleet from 66 to 70 trains. 8 months later we get confirmation that an order for 5 trains (from 65 to 70) is placed. Odd that TfL and Bombardier press offices have different views of the fleet size and variation quantity. Quite why it has taken 8 months to agree an order for 4 or 5 trains is beyond me. Normally these orders are placed immediately. Originally the order was 66 trains plus 18 options Not sure when it quietly dropped to 65 It appears 8 months ago TfL Board agreed to enhanced service to Reading and half hourly service to Heathrow T5 and some other enhancements requiring additional trains. I assume the price was already specified in the options, so must have taken 8 months to choose quantity. Oddly today Press picked up a story of applying for bid funding from the Ebbsfleet Development Corp for extending the service there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 20:48:50 GMT
7 car 345 transferred from Communist East to Capitalist West of TfL Rail for 20 May takeover.
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Post by snowman on Apr 26, 2018 22:19:47 GMT
7 car 345 transferred from Communist East to Capitalist West of TfL Rail for 20 May takeover. If it’s not a daft question, why does it need hauling, isn’t it equipped with BR signalling I can understand a second man pilot, but why diesel haulage, and if loco haulage why not electric loco ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 22:35:35 GMT
If it’s not a daft question, why does it need hauling, isn’t it equipped with BR signalling I can understand a second man pilot, but why diesel haulage, and if loco haulage why not electric loco ? Acton Wells Junction to Acton Main Line isn't electrified. The chord the Mendip stone trains use to/from Acton Yard to gain access to the NLL between Willesden Junction and Acton Central.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 26, 2018 23:17:57 GMT
If it’s not a daft question, why does it need hauling, isn’t it equipped with BR signalling I can understand a second man pilot, but why diesel haulage, and if loco haulage why not electric loco ? As Mr Date has said there is a short but crucial bit of electrification missing west of Willesden Junction. IIRC there was a plan to wire Acton Wells to give electrified connectivity between GWML and NLL / WCML but it was dropped. I may have this wrong but that part of the network is pretty intensively used so getting engineering possessions is extremely difficult - this has been raised as a factor in the proposed construction of the new Overground stations in the Old Oak Common / Park Royal redevelopment area. If those stations are very built then certain aspects of the work near Acton Wells junction will be on the critical path for the entire project as there are only a couple of long possession opportuntiies a year. Miss one and you've got 6 months slippage at least.
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Post by T.R. on Apr 26, 2018 23:28:30 GMT
7 car 345 transferred from Communist East to Capitalist West of TfL Rail for 20 May takeover. I spotted one being towed past Cally Road and Barnsbury earlier...
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Post by joefrombow on Apr 27, 2018 2:02:26 GMT
There was a Class 37 in some sort of black Starry-eyed up livery attached to a 345 last night around 20:00 at Ilford EMUD maybe the west will be getting another one today .
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Post by snoggle on Apr 27, 2018 15:04:18 GMT
There was a Class 37 in some sort of black Starry-eyed up livery attached to a 345 last night around 20:00 at Ilford EMUD maybe the west will be getting another one today . Just as well they haven't sent too many class 315s to the scrap heap. Otherwise at this rate they wouldn't be able to run the Shenfield service. Does anyone know how many 7 cars are transferring west? They can't need that many as they're only being deployed on the Hayes shuttle initially. TfL must be praying that the Hayes bay and Heathrow issues are resolved quickly so they can run 9 cars out west and move 7 cars back east.
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Post by snowman on Apr 27, 2018 15:46:11 GMT
There was a Class 37 in some sort of black Starry-eyed up livery attached to a 345 last night around 20:00 at Ilford EMUD maybe the west will be getting another one today . Just as well they haven't sent too many class 315s to the scrap heap. Otherwise at this rate they wouldn't be able to run the Shenfield service. Does anyone know how many 7 cars are transferring west? They can't need that many as they're only being deployed on the Hayes shuttle initially. TfL must be praying that the Hayes bay and Heathrow issues are resolved quickly so they can run 9 cars out west and move 7 cars back east. I think they can run 9 cars to Heathrow already, (except it needs appropriate signalling). Obviously need to keep them as seperate services short term so only need enough 7 car trains for Hayes until Bay platform extension is open
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Post by snoggle on Apr 27, 2018 20:44:25 GMT
Just as well they haven't sent too many class 315s to the scrap heap. Otherwise at this rate they wouldn't be able to run the Shenfield service. Does anyone know how many 7 cars are transferring west? They can't need that many as they're only being deployed on the Hayes shuttle initially. TfL must be praying that the Hayes bay and Heathrow issues are resolved quickly so they can run 9 cars out west and move 7 cars back east. I think they can run 9 cars to Heathrow already, (except it needs appropriate signalling). Obviously need to keep them as seperate services short term so only need enough 7 car trains for Hayes until Bay platform extension is open Well yes but no one seems to have a clue when any of the required work will conclude. I understand the Hayes & Harlington bay needs some extra length to the west for 9 cars which requires the station rebuilding to progress somewhat *and* a signal moved at the eastern end of the platform. The signalling on the Heathrow branch is extremely involved and linked to the train types - only some of which work with the respective current and future systems. The thing they need to get rid of is the old style BR ATP on the branch as 345s can't work it, 387s don't need it which is why HEX are getting rid of the 332s - they only work with the old style ATP system as do the 360s. Moving to ETCS and TPWS+ allows 345s and 387s to run. Apparently it is proving very difficult to have the ATP and ETCS hardware in close proximity to each other in the Heathrow tunnels and for more than 1 345 at a time to work reliably in that environment.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 18:43:23 GMT
12 days to go before we can travel out of Paddington (High Level)... --- Horace Von KhuteTelephone Fraud Prevention Unit Zimbabwe ZW
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Post by snoggle on May 8, 2018 23:46:08 GMT
Yep after weeks of zero activity and no meetings due to Easter and election purdah activity has now resumed at TfL towers. For next week's Programmes and Investment Cttee we have a new Crossrail update paper. Nothing hugely shocking as the juicy info is in the "private" section of the paper but reading between the lines I'll be astonished if services start in December. There does appear to be some progress with train testing between Abbey Wood and Stepney Green. The western stations rebuild is still out to tender - can't see how those works will be complete by Dec 2019 given it takes months to mobilise and get on site which means late Summer even if the contracts were awarded tomorrow. The scale of work at some locations will be considerable too. content.tfl.gov.uk/pic-20180516-item11-crossrail.pdf
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