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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 21:41:23 GMT
Hello ladies and gents I'm still a fairly new bus driver and I noticed bus stop rules are somehow very flexible or not written on the big red book or anywhere else. If we serve a bus stop very close to a set of traffic lights and we wait for everybody untill the light is red then on the changing of the green light we pull off and a somebody arrive running to the bus stop whats the best thing to do? Pull off again and get another red light or the bus stop is served and we are ok to go? Just wondering if there is any kind of rule for situations like this one. Merry Xmas everybody
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Post by M1104 on Dec 27, 2017 21:58:34 GMT
I used to hate those kind of bus stops, especially the one in Brixton outside the KFC which is right at the lights. Usually if the doors are closed and the offside indicators are on that's it for the 'conductor element' in me until the next stop. In saying that however I do try to time the closing of the doors with the phasing of the traffic lights, so that if somebody does approach afterwards I would simply indicate that the lights are about to change green.
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Post by londonbusboy on Dec 27, 2017 22:52:34 GMT
Hello ladies and gents I'm still a fairly new bus driver and I noticed bus stop rules are somehow very flexible or not written on the big red book or anywhere else. If we serve a bus stop very close to a set of traffic lights and we wait for everybody untill the light is red then on the changing of the green light we pull off and a somebody arrive running to the bus stop whats the best thing to do? Pull off again and get another red light or the bus stop is served and we are ok to go? Just wondering if there is any kind of rule for situations like this one. Merry Xmas everybody You wont be able to please everyone, i practically do what the person above has said
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Post by lwldriver on Dec 28, 2017 2:51:13 GMT
Hello ladies and gents I'm still a fairly new bus driver and I noticed bus stop rules are somehow very flexible or not written on the big red book or anywhere else. If we serve a bus stop very close to a set of traffic lights and we wait for everybody untill the light is red then on the changing of the green light we pull off and a somebody arrive running to the bus stop whats the best thing to do? Pull off again and get another red light or the bus stop is served and we are ok to go? Just wondering if there is any kind of rule for situations like this one. Merry Xmas everybody You wont be able to please everyone, i practically do what the person above has said General rule is once you have served the stop, mirror checks done and signalled to pull away, you must do so, but every situation is different and common sense prevails.
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Post by TB141 on Dec 29, 2017 11:29:44 GMT
Sadly you have to leave the odd person behind now and again or you’d be there all day. I tend to be a bit more ‘relaxed’ on low frequency routes and am more likely to stop again for someone.
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Post by TB141 on Dec 29, 2017 12:58:28 GMT
I used to hate those kind of bus stops, especially the one in Brixton outside the KFC which is right at the lights. Usually if the doors are closed and the offside indicators are on that's it for the 'conductor element' in me until the next stop. In saying that however I do try to time the closing of the doors with the phasing of the traffic lights, so that if somebody does approach afterwards I would simply indicate that the lights are about to change green. The 261/126 stop at Grove Park Station heading towards Lee Green really annoys me as it is literally right at the stop line for the traffic lights and you always get someone running oj the station when the lights change.
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Post by 6HP502C on Jan 4, 2018 13:27:52 GMT
I'm often skeptical of opening the doors away from bus stops - in my experience, people who don't have the regard to use a bus stop will either get on to ask a question which results in them leaving the bus, or not be willing to pay - either way, wasting time which negatively impacts on other passengers and road users.
If I've already served and left the bus stop then the chances of me opening the doors again are pretty slim, though not non-existent. Drivers are banned from letting people on at the lights in Walthamstow Bus Station. Doing it in Stratford City Bus Station usually results in a whole load more people running up and losing the green light so it's a bad idea to do so, even if the lights do stay red for 2 minutes.
I commute from Victoria to Battersea Park at times and on leaving the station often see a 156 sat at the lights (the stop is around 3 car lengths before the lights). I won't knock on the door if I catch up with it, but if the driver sees me and opens them then great.
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Post by vjaska on Jan 4, 2018 14:19:26 GMT
I'm often skeptical of opening the doors away from bus stops - in my experience, people who don't have the regard to use a bus stop will either get on to ask a question which results in them leaving the bus, or not be willing to pay - either way, wasting time which negatively impacts on other passengers and road users. If I've already served and left the bus stop then the chances of me opening the doors again are pretty slim, though not non-existent. Drivers are banned from letting people on at the lights in Walthamstow Bus Station. Doing it in Stratford City Bus Station usually results in a whole load more people running up and losing the green light so it's a bad idea to do so, even if the lights do stay red for 2 minutes. I commute from Victoria to Battersea Park at times and on leaving the station often see a 156 sat at the lights (the stop is around 3 car lengths before the lights). I won't knock on the door if I catch up with it, but if the driver sees me and opens them then great. Brixton Station stops are the same - the minute you don't close that door, you could be stuck there for a good while trying to get away as people spawn from nowhere. I've never understood why a driver would not shut his door here given it can back fire and instead kill time at the following stop.
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Post by M1104 on Jan 4, 2018 14:53:56 GMT
Brixton Station stops are the same - the minute you don't close that door, you could be stuck there for a good while trying to get away as people spawn from nowhere. I've never understood why a driver would not shut his door here given it can back fire and instead kill time at the following stop. As Brixton Station is a timing point it's usually instructed that buses shouldn't go beyond there before they're supposed to. With that being a very busy stop it's ideally better for drivers to wait at previous stops so that by the time they reach timing points they can depart straightaway after serving it.
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Post by londonbusboy on Jan 4, 2018 16:59:21 GMT
Sadly you have to leave the odd person behind now and again or you’d be there all day. I tend to be a bit more ‘relaxed’ on low frequency routes and am more likely to stop again for someone. Bromley South i get tunnel vision at rush hour. Do not look around as you will make eye contact with a runner and be expected to wait. That may sound evil but its another of those stops where its difficult to get going.
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Post by sid on Jan 4, 2018 17:06:29 GMT
Sadly you have to leave the odd person behind now and again or you’d be there all day. I tend to be a bit more ‘relaxed’ on low frequency routes and am more likely to stop again for someone. Bromley South i get tunnel vision at rush hour. Do not look around as you will make eye contact with a runner and be expected to wait. That may sound evil but its another of those stops where its difficult to get going. East Croydon is another one and buses struggle to get away from the interchange stops at busy times and so you still get people tapping on the door.
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 4, 2018 19:30:08 GMT
Bromley South i get tunnel vision at rush hour. Do not look around as you will make eye contact with a runner and be expected to wait. That may sound evil but its another of those stops where its difficult to get going. East Croydon is another one and buses struggle to get away from the interchange stops at busy times and so you still get people tapping on the door. Woolwich Arsenal Station is another. There has to be a cut off point because people keep running. In regards to Stops at traffic lights once I’ve served the stop and pulled out in the traffic the door doesn’t reopen because it’s unsafe.
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