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Post by 6HP502C on Apr 24, 2018 1:06:24 GMT
You have to have several high frequency bus routes and be within a short walking distance of very frequent rail services to have a high PTAL score. Remoteness from tube services sees PTAL scores drop like a stone. 6b here - rail, metro and umpteen bus services on the doorstep. However that comes at a price - rents and police sirens to a greater order of magnitude than is desirable!
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Post by cl54 on May 4, 2018 12:22:30 GMT
Could this be centred on a large hospital with the aim of reducing the use of cars by staff?
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Post by snowman on May 9, 2018 7:54:28 GMT
Transit Systems (Tower Transits parent) has bought a demand responsive company, and has apparently been looking at TfLs request for demand responsive and pitched bridj to TfL Links are behind a paywall, so can only get part of the story, but tried couple of sites to get the above info Link Link 2Cant find anything directly from Tower Transit
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Post by joefrombow on Jun 7, 2018 16:53:13 GMT
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Post by routew15 on Jun 26, 2018 19:58:33 GMT
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Post by londontravel on Jun 26, 2018 21:32:15 GMT
It works in some areas. Essex has DaRT services covering the Dengie, and other parts of the county. From what I hear they seem to work well, and even one service, DaRT 5 had another journey added, as it is very popular with the locals.
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Post by joefrombow on Jun 27, 2018 0:47:45 GMT
It works in some areas. Essex has DaRT services covering the Dengie, and other parts of the county. From what I hear they seem to work well, and even one service, DaRT 5 had another journey added, as it is very popular with the locals. Very true but there is next to no normal bus service in alot of parts of the Dengie , Bar the main routes into Burnham so if you rely on public transport you don't really have another option , but for those kinds of areas seems ideal .
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Post by snoggle on Dec 4, 2018 22:38:08 GMT
A small piece of additional info about the proposed TfL trial of demand responsive buses. Interesting that they expect to use up to ten vehicles. That suggests a fairly large trial area or a fairly intensive service level to cater for expected demand. Elsewhere in the report is a budget figure of £700k for the trial.
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Post by routew15 on Jan 8, 2019 14:11:49 GMT
Not that it will be pursued but i wonder if the RV1 would be a good candidate for a demand responsive bus (this does not necessarily have to be TfL run) ?
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Post by Tangy on Jan 10, 2019 1:34:39 GMT
Source LOTS:
"Go-Ahead at Sutton Garage is to operate a Demand Response Service using eight M-B Sprinters. Booking would be via an app, similar to Go-Ahead’s “pick-me-up” operation in Oxford."
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Post by redbus on Jan 10, 2019 16:37:21 GMT
Source LOTS: "Go-Ahead at Sutton Garage is to operate a Demand Response Service using eight M-B Sprinters. Booking would be via an app, similar to Go-Ahead’s “pick-me-up” operation in Oxford." Well I was wrong then. I sort of expected TT to operate it. Surprised it will be Go-Aheag, but good luck to them
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Post by danorak on Jan 11, 2019 1:36:20 GMT
Meanwhile, it's being reported that Chariot is to close its London service later this month with its other global operations to follow.
How much of these app based DRT services is hype? Roger French's reports on Arriva Click in Sittingbourne have suggested the figures don't work. DRT itself is not new of course - will these go the same way as earlier generations and be replaced by fixed routes when the ridership pattern is established?
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Post by busman on Jan 11, 2019 9:34:53 GMT
I’m quite tech savvy and personally I just don’t get DRT. If I want something to turn up when I want and go to where I want I just use Uber or my local minicab firm. If I have time to play with I use a regular bus. For anything else in between, there’s Uber Pool.
Why is the Mayor of London wasting public money and resource on a glorified Dial-a-ride? Just improve dial-a-ride (already in progress I believe) and offer favourable trading conditions for taxi companies to operate car sharing services.
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Post by snoggle on Jan 11, 2019 12:49:40 GMT
I’m quite tech savvy and personally I just don’t get DRT. If I want something to turn up when I want and go to where I want I just use Uber or my local minicab firm. If I have time to play with I use a regular bus. For anything else in between, there’s Uber Pool. Why is the Mayor of London wasting public money and resource on a glorified Dial-a-ride? Just improve dial-a-ride (already in progress I believe) and offer favourable trading conditions for taxi companies to operate car sharing services. I take your point. I can think of a few reasons why there will be a trial. - it may, if done properly, allow public transport access into areas where a conventional bus might struggle. - I think TfL have a strategic imperative not to lose control of the bus network so want to understand how to "control" DRT / technology driven services. - TfL want to understand if there is a viable case for DRT or not. Strikes me as a reasonable objective. - There is an element of needing to respond to the alleged queue of tech firms knocking at TfL's door to run some form of transport service. - TfL need to understand what market there is for DRT alongside its own services and the ones you cite. It may all come to nothing in terms of there being any viability for more DRT services. I suspect TfL wouldn't be terribly upset if that is the case. However if, as in Oxford, the scheme works at some level then it might add something extra to the transport network. I do think the market demographics in Oxford are rather different to many places so the fact Go Ahead is doing well in Oxford is unlikely to be a guide as to success elsewhere.
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Post by redbus on Jan 12, 2019 20:18:09 GMT
I’m quite tech savvy and personally I just don’t get DRT. If I want something to turn up when I want and go to where I want I just use Uber or my local minicab firm. If I have time to play with I use a regular bus. For anything else in between, there’s Uber Pool. Why is the Mayor of London wasting public money and resource on a glorified Dial-a-ride? Just improve dial-a-ride (already in progress I believe) and offer favourable trading conditions for taxi companies to operate car sharing services. I take your point. I can think of a few reasons why there will be a trial. - it may, if done properly, allow public transport access into areas where a conventional bus might struggle. - I think TfL have a strategic imperative not to lose control of the bus network so want to understand how to "control" DRT / technology driven services. - TfL want to understand if there is a viable case for DRT or not. Strikes me as a reasonable objective. - There is an element of needing to respond to the alleged queue of tech firms knocking at TfL's door to run some form of transport service. - TfL need to understand what market there is for DRT alongside its own services and the ones you cite. It may all come to nothing in terms of there being any viability for more DRT services. I suspect TfL wouldn't be terribly upset if that is the case. However if, as in Oxford, the scheme works at some level then it might add something extra to the transport network. I do think the market demographics in Oxford are rather different to many places so the fact Go Ahead is doing well in Oxford is unlikely to be a guide as to success elsewhere. I believe there is a rosy future for DRT, it has a lot to offer, and reaches parts and price points that are otherwise missed. However that is for the future. For today I think it is somewhat more limited, but that's not to say it has no role. As today's younger tech savvy generation gets older and technology improves, that will help drive DRT.
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