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Post by redexpress on Oct 24, 2018 21:05:59 GMT
The article on electric Volvos also mentions that the B5LHC is being discontinued - so Go-Ahead's two VHPs will end up being unique.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 24, 2018 22:39:45 GMT
The article on electric Volvos also mentions that the B5LHC is being discontinued - so Go-Ahead's two VHPs will end up being unique. I wonder if this makes if worthwhile even fitting pantographs at the termini for the 37.
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Post by snoggle on Oct 25, 2018 9:53:38 GMT
The article on electric Volvos also mentions that the B5LHC is being discontinued - so Go-Ahead's two VHPs will end up being unique. I wonder if this makes if worthwhile even fitting pantographs at the termini for the 37. May still be worth doing because the future Volvo electric DD will be capable of fast recharging so testing the concept is probably no bad thing. I doubt Volvo will move away from the pantograph roof charging idea in the short term. It would take a major technology advance for them to change. I also wonder if the VHPs are actually Go Ahead assets - more likely they are owned by TfL and leased to GAL given the precedent for most experimental alternative power vehicles being TfL owned.
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Post by snowman on Oct 25, 2018 10:48:45 GMT
I wonder if this makes if worthwhile even fitting pantographs at the termini for the 37. May still be worth doing because the future Volvo electric DD will be capable of fast recharging so testing the concept is probably no bad thing. I doubt Volvo will move away from the pantograph roof charging idea in the short term. It would take a major technology advance for them to change. I also wonder if the VHPs are actually Go Ahead assets - more likely they are owned by TfL and leased to GAL given the precedent for most experimental alternative power vehicles being TfL owned. I suspect the pantograph idea will catch on at dedicated stands, in longer term, and trialing it makes sence. There are some routes where the bus is out 18 hours a day, which is probably beyond the battery storage (assuming weight and price limits the battery capacity). Like snoggle I suspect that Go Ahead don't own them as they are long term trial buses, might be TfL, but could also be Wrightbus or Volvo (or some combination of joint ownership). A similar thing happened with the 56 trial hybrids in 2008-9, after 5 years some went back, others got taken on by the Operators, so probably a trial period (but may not be 5 years) which will determine long term electric bus strategy in 2-4 years time.
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Post by busaholic on Oct 25, 2018 20:03:18 GMT
May still be worth doing because the future Volvo electric DD will be capable of fast recharging so testing the concept is probably no bad thing. I doubt Volvo will move away from the pantograph roof charging idea in the short term. It would take a major technology advance for them to change. I also wonder if the VHPs are actually Go Ahead assets - more likely they are owned by TfL and leased to GAL given the precedent for most experimental alternative power vehicles being TfL owned. I suspect the pantograph idea will catch on at dedicated stands, in longer term, and trialing it makes sence. There are some routes where the bus is out 18 hours a day, which is probably beyond the battery storage (assuming weight and price limits the battery capacity). There would appear to be quite a few countries where this is becoming common, as a minimum, and not just at termini. It helps, of course, to have the buses, infrastructure, and ownership of the stands all under one organisation, as still happens in many places. In a few of these places, they are experimenting with extending the wires and reducing both the size of batteries and dependability on them - anyone remember the trolleybus?
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Post by John tuthill on Oct 25, 2018 23:29:10 GMT
I suspect the pantograph idea will catch on at dedicated stands, in longer term, and trialing it makes sence. There are some routes where the bus is out 18 hours a day, which is probably beyond the battery storage (assuming weight and price limits the battery capacity). There would appear to be quite a few countries where this is becoming common, as a minimum, and not just at termini. It helps, of course, to have the buses, infrastructure, and ownership of the stands all under one organisation, as still happens in many places. In a few of these places, they are experimenting with extending the wires and reducing both the size of batteries and dependability on them - anyone remember the trolleybus? With GREAT affection. We'll never have the pleasure of storming up Highgate Hill, once done never forgotten. Picture from the David Bradley web page Attachment Deleted
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Post by driver027 on Apr 29, 2019 3:05:41 GMT
If National Express can send their tri axle a service coaches down Victoria Park road, Mile End road, London wall, liv Street, Bethnal green and other roads I don’t see what the issue is with most bus routes?
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