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Post by rhys on May 17, 2018 18:43:37 GMT
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but I think the changeovers at Camberwell Green on Camberwell Road can be rather tedious. There are far too many buses changing over there (Routes 12, 35, 40, 42, 45, 68 and 176).
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Post by M1104 on May 17, 2018 21:29:43 GMT
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but I think the changeovers at Camberwell Green on Camberwell Road can be rather tedious. There are far too many buses changing over there (Routes 12, 35, 40, 42, 45, 68 and 176). I believe the 12 changes over one stop away from the other routes, nevetheless still a lot changing in one place.
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Post by galwhv69 on May 17, 2018 21:41:39 GMT
Norwood bus garage & St julians farm road especially if 2 468's come at once,aswell as a 196 regulating service and it is then full
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Post by Nathan on May 17, 2018 22:25:40 GMT
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but I think the changeovers at Camberwell Green on Camberwell Road can be rather tedious. There are far too many buses changing over there (Routes 12, 35, 40, 42, 45, 68 and 176). I believe the 12 changes over one stop away from the other routes, nevetheless still a lot changing in one place. Route 12 changeovers are at Medlar Street. The 176 under Arrival also used to change here, but I'm not sure if it does still under Go-Ahead.
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Post by Nathan on May 17, 2018 22:27:33 GMT
The 172, 188 and 415 changing over at Elephant & Castle was pretty bad. Used to hold up routes for ages.
With that said, routes 21, 36, 171, 172 and 436 changing at New Cross can also get very hectic.
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Post by redexpress on May 18, 2018 0:56:37 GMT
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but I think the changeovers at Camberwell Green on Camberwell Road can be rather tedious. There are far too many buses changing over there (Routes 12, 35, 40, 42, 45, 68 and 176). It's especially annoying for southbound buses, as the changeover point isn't (officially) a boarding point, so if the changeover is delayed for some reason (which happens far too often ) you can't just jump on another bus; you have to cross a busy road to get to the next bus stop.
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Post by rhys on May 18, 2018 2:55:12 GMT
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but I think the changeovers at Camberwell Green on Camberwell Road can be rather tedious. There are far too many buses changing over there (Routes 12, 35, 40, 42, 45, 68 and 176). It's especially annoying for southbound buses, as the changeover point isn't (officially) a boarding point, so if the changeover is delayed for some reason (which happens far too often ) you can't just jump on another bus; you have to cross a busy road to get to the next bus stop. Yeah, I used to find it very frustrating with the 468. I'd often have to sprint off a 468 changing over, to the stop outside the McDonalds to catch a 68 that was departing faster, when both were with GAL. I think the changeover stops are even more annoying during evenings. Abellio's buses going into WL often are left parked on the road, adding to the congestion from the buses changing drivers. Although it is convient for both WL and Q, it's just a bad location altogether. Especially considering so many bus routes serve the surrounding stops.
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Post by Curtailment on Jun 20, 2018 0:18:30 GMT
I would have thought being able to sign on or off remotely would make the job more attractive for a lot of people rather than finishing close to where you live but having to go all the way back to the garage to sign off. Obviously it wouldn't be possible on duties where a bus has to be collected from or returned to the garage. There's also the issue of log cards that need to be handed in by each driver at end of shift, it being as much a legal document as the tachograph. Duty cards also need to be handed in where a different driver would need it next day. Also, driver signing on at the depot helps the firm to better keep tracks on staffing situations, e.g.. allocating a stand by driver to cover a duty in case the schedule driver arrives late, or not at all. The drivers themselves need to know route information on a day-to-day basis, ie. Diversions, curtailments, bus stop closures, etc. By signing on at the depot they can refer to relevant notice boards. Log cards aren't a requirement on domestic regs. There's basically no accountability or oversight, or requirement for it. In my current occasional employment driving to domestic regs, I've no timetable (not a stage carriage) and don't usually bother making a record of my hours driven, knowing that they won't go anywhere near the limits. Most bus companies outside London don't bother with log cards They also tend not to use duty cards, but instead running boards - much the same, but showing the timetable of a bus for a day rather than of a driver. Drivers leave these on the bus when relieved Some of the other reasons not to have drivers signing on at locations without supervision are of course great. A further one is that t he agreements with TfL require bus companies to conduct a certain amount of random drug/alcohol testing
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Post by driver027 on Apr 29, 2019 3:10:51 GMT
Bow church by far! Not helped by the fact it’s also served by national express tri axle coaches. Many a time I’ve seen a poor 25 driver get a mouthful and even physical abuse due to the coach quite rightly going straight past as unable to stop. Either the changeover point needs moving. Or national express should serve Bow Road instead.
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Post by driver027 on Apr 29, 2019 3:11:29 GMT
Bow church by far! Not helped by the fact it’s also served by national express tri axle coaches. Many a time I’ve seen a poor 25 driver get a mouthful in foreign and even physical abuse due to the coach quite rightly going straight past as unable to stop. Either the changeover point needs moving. Or national express should serve Bow Road instead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 12:36:37 GMT
Bow church by far! Not helped by the fact it’s also served by national express tri axle coaches. Many a time I’ve seen a poor 25 driver get a mouthful and even physical abuse due to the coach quite rightly going straight past as unable to stop. Either the changeover point needs moving. Or national express should serve Bow Road instead. TfL have foolishly allowed several coach services to Stansted to stop around Tower Hamlets. They’ cause chaos mate. Put in bespoke coach stops. Madness sharing busy bus stops with airport express tri axle coaches. I’ve seen many wheelchair users unable to get on their bus because of this.
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Post by driver027 on Apr 29, 2019 13:18:06 GMT
Bow church by far! Not helped by the fact it’s also served by national express tri axle coaches. Many a time I’ve seen a poor 25 driver get a mouthful and even physical abuse due to the coach quite rightly going straight past as unable to stop. Either the changeover point needs moving. Or national express should serve Bow Road instead. TfL have foolishly allowed several coach services to Stansted to stop around Tower Hamlets. They’ cause chaos mate. Put in bespoke coach stops. Madness sharing busy bus stops with airport express tri axle coaches. I’ve seen many wheelchair users unable to get on their bus because of this. TfL don’t care. National express pay a fair whack for their London permit so all they want is the money. Why a national express coach needs to stop three times along Mile End road I don’t know! It’s supposed to be a coach. Not a bus! And yes bespoke coach stops would be much better. But hey let’s just do it on the cheap and let them mingle with two of the busiest bus routes in London..
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Post by busman on Apr 29, 2019 14:17:43 GMT
Iron Bridge for the 607. A changeover point so bad, it has necessitated an additional stop in no-man’s land on an “express” route.
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Post by sid on Apr 29, 2019 14:31:33 GMT
TfL have foolishly allowed several coach services to Stansted to stop around Tower Hamlets. They’ cause chaos mate. Put in bespoke coach stops. Madness sharing busy bus stops with airport express tri axle coaches. I’ve seen many wheelchair users unable to get on their bus because of this. TfL don’t care. National express pay a fair whack for their London permit so all they want is the money. Why a national express coach needs to stop three times along Mile End road I don’t know! It’s supposed to be a coach. Not a bus! And yes bespoke coach stops would be much better. But hey let’s just do it on the cheap and let them mingle with two of the busiest bus routes in London.. It's an airport service and clearly locals want to use it, should have it's own stop though although there are far worse examples in Central London, Hyde Park Corner/Park Lane for example.
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Post by driver027 on Apr 29, 2019 16:37:48 GMT
TfL don’t care. National express pay a fair whack for their London permit so all they want is the money. Why a national express coach needs to stop three times along Mile End road I don’t know! It’s supposed to be a coach. Not a bus! And yes bespoke coach stops would be much better. But hey let’s just do it on the cheap and let them mingle with two of the busiest bus routes in London.. It's an airport service and clearly locals want to use it, should have it's own stop though although there are far worse examples in Central London, Hyde Park Corner/Park Lane for example. Those are big wide roads though. Not so much of an issue. Also isn’t a changeovertiming point. Frequent road block ups happen at both Mile End and bow due to a combination of poor road design/stop location, buses taking way longer than they should to do a changeover, and 14 metre long tri axle coaches casually hogging stops and selling tickets.
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