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Post by ThinLizzy on Jun 8, 2018 18:16:28 GMT
Taken from the Edinburgh Buses Facebook page:
Statement on behalf of Lothian:
Richard Hall, Managing Director, Lothian: “We are pleased to announce our order and partnership with Alexander Dennis and Volvo for the production of 42 Euro 6 vehicles for our city bus fleet. These vehicles will enhance our current fleet in line with our investment and BUS2020 strategy and ensure that we continue to play our part to improve air quality across the city and Scotland whilst meeting our customers’ expectations. We look forward to releasing further information on these vehicles at a later date.”
Colin Robertson, Chief Executive, ADL: “We are delighted to support Lothian in their BUS2020 strategy and as a Scotland-based company, we are particularly pleased that our buses will serve the Scottish capital. Working with Volvo as chassis manufacturer, we will combine our expertise in tailoring buses to our customer’s requirements underpinned by best-in-class aftermarket support to ensure Lothian’s new fleet delivers a first class customer experience. We, too, look forward to sharing more details of this exciting new product in due course.”
Nick Page, Managing Director, Volvo Bus UK & Ireland: “We are very excited to be working with our long term partner Lothian, and Alexander Dennis on this project to bring a new concept in travel to The City of Edinburgh. This is another important milestone in Lothian’s BUS2020 strategy improving air quality and enhancing the customers’ experience.”
--- Looks like Metroline are not the only ones not happy with Wrightbus
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Post by vjaska on Jun 8, 2018 18:27:24 GMT
Taken from the Edinburgh Buses Facebook page: Statement on behalf of Lothian: Richard Hall, Managing Director, Lothian: “We are pleased to announce our order and partnership with Alexander Dennis and Volvo for the production of 42 Euro 6 vehicles for our city bus fleet. These vehicles will enhance our current fleet in line with our investment and BUS2020 strategy and ensure that we continue to play our part to improve air quality across the city and Scotland whilst meeting our customers’ expectations. We look forward to releasing further information on these vehicles at a later date.” Colin Robertson, Chief Executive, ADL: “We are delighted to support Lothian in their BUS2020 strategy and as a Scotland-based company, we are particularly pleased that our buses will serve the Scottish capital. Working with Volvo as chassis manufacturer, we will combine our expertise in tailoring buses to our customer’s requirements underpinned by best-in-class aftermarket support to ensure Lothian’s new fleet delivers a first class customer experience. We, too, look forward to sharing more details of this exciting new product in due course.” Nick Page, Managing Director, Volvo Bus UK & Ireland: “We are very excited to be working with our long term partner Lothian, and Alexander Dennis on this project to bring a new concept in travel to The City of Edinburgh. This is another important milestone in Lothian’s BUS2020 strategy improving air quality and enhancing the customers’ experience.” --- Looks like Metroline are not the only ones not happy with Wrightbus Wow, it's rare they go to ADL for buses so clearly, as you say, they must be unhappy as well. The only time they've touched ADL to my knowledge was when they had Alexander Olympians & the Enviro 400H's which were only ordered as Wrightbus didn't have a LWB B5LH spec at the time.
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Post by snowman on Jun 8, 2018 18:30:46 GMT
Taken from the Edinburgh Buses Facebook page: Statement on behalf of Lothian: Richard Hall, Managing Director, Lothian: “We are pleased to announce our order and partnership with Alexander Dennis and Volvo for the production of 42 Euro 6 vehicles for our city bus fleet. These vehicles will enhance our current fleet in line with our investment and BUS2020 strategy and ensure that we continue to play our part to improve air quality across the city and Scotland whilst meeting our customers’ expectations. We look forward to releasing further information on these vehicles at a later date.” Colin Robertson, Chief Executive, ADL: “We are delighted to support Lothian in their BUS2020 strategy and as a Scotland-based company, we are particularly pleased that our buses will serve the Scottish capital. Working with Volvo as chassis manufacturer, we will combine our expertise in tailoring buses to our customer’s requirements underpinned by best-in-class aftermarket support to ensure Lothian’s new fleet delivers a first class customer experience. We, too, look forward to sharing more details of this exciting new product in due course.” Nick Page, Managing Director, Volvo Bus UK & Ireland: “We are very excited to be working with our long term partner Lothian, and Alexander Dennis on this project to bring a new concept in travel to The City of Edinburgh. This is another important milestone in Lothian’s BUS2020 strategy improving air quality and enhancing the customers’ experience.” --- Looks like Metroline are not the only ones not happy with Wrightbus I guess they will be either MMC or City types on Volvo diesel chassis Wonder if this was prompt for the 95 redundancies at Wrightbus earlier this week, as they probably knew they had lost a Lothian order
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 8, 2018 18:50:38 GMT
Egypt and China taking all the orders they said wonder how Wright will react to this one. I really think they should try and work with operators on designing a new vehicle, or trying to fix the issues operators have with their current line up instead of blaming other countries. That said the above could just be speculation on my part and instead ADL just offered a much more attractive deal and the people at Lothian decided to give them a shot.
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Post by snoggle on Jun 8, 2018 18:59:33 GMT
Wow, it's rare they go to ADL for buses so clearly, as you say, they must be unhappy as well. The only time they've touched ADL to my knowledge was when they had Alexander Olympians & the Enviro 400H's which were only ordered as Wrightbus didn't have a LWB B5LH spec at the time. Lothian bought Alexander bodied buses for decades like many municipals and PTEs did in the 60s and 70s. They also had decent numbers of Tridents with Plaxton President bodywork. Lothian Buses 683 Edinburgh by plcd1, on Flickr Wrightbus must have p*ssed them off royally for there to be such a move now. I get ADL are having a quiet chuckle to themselves while sipping glasses of champers. Of course ADL now have to turn out a magnificent product in the hope of gaining future orders.
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Post by Volvo on Jun 8, 2018 19:02:56 GMT
Wow never thought id actually see the b5tl e400 MMC ordered. In regards to Wrightbus though I really cannot lie from a drivers pov the gemini 3 b.q really isn't great the rattles etc are really bad and doesn't help that the b5lh has such soft suspension aswell.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 8, 2018 23:28:42 GMT
Wow, it's rare they go to ADL for buses so clearly, as you say, they must be unhappy as well. The only time they've touched ADL to my knowledge was when they had Alexander Olympians & the Enviro 400H's which were only ordered as Wrightbus didn't have a LWB B5LH spec at the time. Lothian bought Alexander bodied buses for decades like many municipals and PTEs did in the 60s and 70s. They also had decent numbers of Tridents with Plaxton President bodywork. Lothian Buses 683 Edinburgh by plcd1, on Flickr Wrightbus must have p*ssed them off royally for there to be such a move now. I get ADL are having a quiet chuckle to themselves while sipping glasses of champers. Of course ADL now have to turn out a magnificent product in the hope of gaining future orders. Thanks - I knew they had Presidents but presumed they had switched to the Gemini before the Transbus era
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jun 9, 2018 9:43:42 GMT
Lothian bought Alexander bodied buses for decades like many municipals and PTEs did in the 60s and 70s. They also had decent numbers of Tridents with Plaxton President bodywork. Lothian Buses 683 Edinburgh by plcd1, on Flickr Wrightbus must have p*ssed them off royally for there to be such a move now. I get ADL are having a quiet chuckle to themselves while sipping glasses of champers. Of course ADL now have to turn out a magnificent product in the hope of gaining future orders. Thanks - I knew they had Presidents but presumed they had switched to the Gemini before the Transbus era They switched to Geminis in 2005/2006, I think the last Presidents were around 2004ish
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 9, 2018 14:23:12 GMT
Taken from the Edinburgh Buses Facebook page: Statement on behalf of Lothian: Richard Hall, Managing Director, Lothian: “We are pleased to announce our order and partnership with Alexander Dennis and Volvo for the production of 42 Euro 6 vehicles for our city bus fleet. These vehicles will enhance our current fleet in line with our investment and BUS2020 strategy and ensure that we continue to play our part to improve air quality across the city and Scotland whilst meeting our customers’ expectations. We look forward to releasing further information on these vehicles at a later date.” Colin Robertson, Chief Executive, ADL: “We are delighted to support Lothian in their BUS2020 strategy and as a Scotland-based company, we are particularly pleased that our buses will serve the Scottish capital. Working with Volvo as chassis manufacturer, we will combine our expertise in tailoring buses to our customer’s requirements underpinned by best-in-class aftermarket support to ensure Lothian’s new fleet delivers a first class customer experience. We, too, look forward to sharing more details of this exciting new product in due course.” Nick Page, Managing Director, Volvo Bus UK & Ireland: “We are very excited to be working with our long term partner Lothian, and Alexander Dennis on this project to bring a new concept in travel to The City of Edinburgh. This is another important milestone in Lothian’s BUS2020 strategy improving air quality and enhancing the customers’ experience.” --- Looks like Metroline are not the only ones not happy with Wrightbus I guess they will be either MMC or City types on Volvo diesel chassis Wonder if this was prompt for the 95 redundancies at Wrightbus earlier this week, as they probably knew they had lost a Lothian order I hope these have E400-City bodywork. I consider this to have a municipal feel, although I may be biased after riding a Reading gas Scania-E400-City and an ex-municipal Plymouth E400-City this spring. Also Nottingham have similar gas buses to Reading.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 9, 2018 14:25:05 GMT
Thanks - I knew they had Presidents but presumed they had switched to the Gemini before the Transbus era They switched to Geminis in 2005/2006, I think the last Presidents were around 2004ish This is correct. I was in Edinburgh 2 weeks ago and rode Trident 700. Apart from an open-top example, the only standard ones I saw were on route 21. I believe they are due for imminent withdrawal as new Volvo B5TLs and ex-London Volvo B9TLs enter service.
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Post by busoccultation on Jun 9, 2018 14:27:30 GMT
I guess they will be either MMC or City types on Volvo diesel chassis Wonder if this was prompt for the 95 redundancies at Wrightbus earlier this week, as they probably knew they had lost a Lothian order I hope these have E400-City bodywork. I consider this to have a municipal feel, although I may be biased after riding a Reading gas Scania-E400-City and an ex-municipal Plymouth E400-City this spring. Also Nottingham have similar gas buses to Reading. Blackpool Transport is also a municipal operator and they have Enviro 400 City's in their fleet as well
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Post by snowman on Jun 12, 2018 16:51:32 GMT
The really interesting possibility of this is if ADL can make the MMC fit a Volvo chassis, could they make it fit the virtual electric chassis that is being trialled with on 2 SRMs.
Probably would be end of hybrid orders if it works.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 12, 2018 17:54:25 GMT
The really interesting possibility of this is if ADL can make the MMC fit a Volvo chassis, could they make it fit the virtual electric chassis that is being trialled with on 2 SRMs. Probably would be end of hybrid orders if it works. There are already MMC’s with a Volvo chassis so the chassis can definitely fit - Go-Ahead London have the EHV’s on the 135 & Stagecoach London have two batches - one on the 47 & one on the 177.
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Post by busoccultation on Jun 12, 2018 18:13:16 GMT
The really interesting possibility of this is if ADL can make the MMC fit a Volvo chassis, could they make it fit the virtual electric chassis that is being trialled with on 2 SRMs. Probably would be end of hybrid orders if it works. There are already MMC’s with a Volvo chassis so the chassis can definitely fit - Go-Ahead London have the EHV’s on the 135 & Stagecoach London have two batches - one on the 47 & one on the 177. It's not only London have E400 MMC bodied Volvo, in fact Stagecoach East Scotland have 25 B5LH/E400 MMC in their fleet so it will fit in a long wheelbase single door spec that Lothian tends to order. Anyway will be interesting to see if Lothian orders B5TL/E400 MMC as none of the B5TL on a MMC body have been built so far.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 12, 2018 20:28:52 GMT
There are already MMC’s with a Volvo chassis so the chassis can definitely fit - Go-Ahead London have the EHV’s on the 135 & Stagecoach London have two batches - one on the 47 & one on the 177. It's not only London have E400 MMC bodied Volvo, in fact Stagecoach East Scotland have 25 B5LH/E400 MMC in their fleet so it will fit in a long wheelbase single door spec that Lothian tends to order. Anyway will be interesting to see if Lothian orders B5TL/E400 MMC as none of the B5TL on a MMC body have been built so far. Lothians order apparently is for B5TL’s so we will get the first ones built even if they’ll end up all the way in Scotland lol.
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