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Post by snowman on Sept 11, 2018 14:43:07 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Sept 11, 2018 18:07:18 GMT
I was of the understanding that this had already been done but it appears not, certainly it was mentioned to be happening a few years ago. Reading has already done this with a large amount of its Enviro 400H’s. Edinburgh is certainly a very hilly city having seen for myself at the weekend, saw a couple of the 11 reg hybrids running over the big iron bridge that traverses Edinburgh Waverley Station.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 15, 2018 11:33:05 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Nov 8, 2018 15:44:48 GMT
And here is what Lothian Buses ordered! Wow! Wonder if London will borrow one for trials?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 16:02:04 GMT
And here is what Lothian Buses ordered! Wow! Wonder if London will borrow one for trials?
COR!!!!! They look fantastic!
Another very valid reason to go up to Scotland again very soon ...
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Post by busoccultation on Nov 8, 2018 16:15:52 GMT
This tweet from ADL says they are 13.4m long and it will be known as the Enviro400XLB.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 8, 2018 16:59:49 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Nov 8, 2018 17:13:24 GMT
COR!!!!! They look fantastic!
Another very valid reason to go up to Scotland again very soon ...
I tweeted Lothian Buses and said we could do with some of them in London. Their reply - "watch this space". Now that seems their standard reply at the moment but would be nice to see one down here.
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 8, 2018 17:31:49 GMT
COR!!!!! They look fantastic!
Another very valid reason to go up to Scotland again very soon ...
I tweeted Lothian Buses and said we could do with some of them in London. Their reply - "watch this space". Now that seems their standard reply at the moment but would be nice to see one down here. The issue of a vehicle of such a large capacity, is that boarding and alighting times could be very slow, particularly as busy stops. Only really ideal for express routes, or regional routes where most passengers travel between the same destinations. However, ADL may be offering multiple lengths of this. Tri-axles would only reallt catch on in London at a similar length to the BCI trial (i.e. slightly longer than an LT).
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Post by snowman on Nov 8, 2018 17:36:12 GMT
COR!!!!! They look fantastic!
Another very valid reason to go up to Scotland again very soon ...
I tweeted Lothian Buses and said we could do with some of them in London. Their reply - "watch this space". Now that seems their standard reply at the moment but would be nice to see one down here. And it means that ADL have started making E500s to UK spec again after a few years gap 13.4m long and 100 seats, in Lothian spec, ought to be good for about 92-96 seats in TfL dual door, large buggy space spec, guessing around 120 with standees Don’t need to be a genius to do the maths to work out that a route with twenty 87 capacity buses would have greater capacity with 15 buses of 120 capacity But probably only 12-30 routes where a bus of this size would work in London, (12, 18, H91 etc), I’m vague because might fit on routes like 81, 406 etc (apologies for using SW London examples), even if not justified by demand
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Post by snoggle on Nov 8, 2018 17:49:13 GMT
And it means that ADL have started making E500s to UK spec again after a few years gap And yet ADL themselves are very clear that this is NOT an Enviro 500. It's on their launch article on their website.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 8, 2018 18:07:51 GMT
I tweeted Lothian Buses and said we could do with some of them in London. Their reply - "watch this space". Now that seems their standard reply at the moment but would be nice to see one down here. And it means that ADL have started making E500s to UK spec again after a few years gap They're actually defined as the E400XLB as the body structure is more commonplace with the standard E400 MMCs than with the E500 variants, the latter which are still confined to international orders.
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Post by snowman on Nov 8, 2018 18:11:30 GMT
And it means that ADL have started making E500s to UK spec again after a few years gap And yet ADL themselves are very clear that this is NOT an Enviro 500. It's on their launch article on their website. Yes, I stand corrected, like those 3 axle E200s for New Zealand, only using E200 and E400 for RHD versions, even if looks like an E500
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 8, 2018 18:19:55 GMT
I tweeted Lothian Buses and said we could do with some of them in London. Their reply - "watch this space". Now that seems their standard reply at the moment but would be nice to see one down here. And it means that ADL have started making E500s to UK spec again after a few years gap 13.4m long and 100 seats, in Lothian spec, ought to be good for about 92-96 seats in TfL dual door, large buggy space spec, guessing around 120 with standees Don’t need to be a genius to do the maths to work out that a route with twenty 87 capacity buses would have greater capacity with 15 buses of 120 capacity But probably only 12-30 routes where a bus of this size would work in London, (12, 18, H91 etc), I’m vague because might fit on routes like 81, 406 etc (apologies for using SW London examples), even if not justified by demand On the other hand, if TfL were to take the decision that a full mid-life refurbishment for the LTs would not be cost-effective ..... (sorry, can't help myself)
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Post by ThinLizzy on Nov 8, 2018 18:54:40 GMT
And here is what Lothian Buses ordered! Wow! Wonder if London will borrow one for trials?
COR!!!!! They look fantastic!
Another very valid reason to go up to Scotland again very soon ...
my exact words were "cor blimey gosh that looks amazing" * replace cor blimey gosh with OMG
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