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Post by snoggle on Nov 20, 2018 19:16:13 GMT
Richard Clinnick from Rail has reported that TfL have finally signed the deal with Siemens for 94 Deep Level tube trains, to enter traffic from 2023. Press announcement from Siemens in Munich they are based on Inspiro platform The full Press release suggests that increase to 27 trains per hour will not be until 2026 so its likely that most will be delivered during 2024-2025 (or maybe running on to 2026) Apparently the government have so far refused to grant TfL the funding they need to actually improve the line's infrastructure and TfL don't have the funds either. Therefore we'll end up with a new train fleet, funded off the back of leasing the Crossrail fleet, running on knackered tracks with the same useless signalling and power supply as today. So that's all good isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 20:48:19 GMT
Press announcement from Siemens in Munich they are based on Inspiro platform The full Press release suggests that increase to 27 trains per hour will not be until 2026 so its likely that most will be delivered during 2024-2025 (or maybe running on to 2026) Apparently the government have so far refused to grant TfL the funding they need to actually improve the line's infrastructure and TfL don't have the funds either. Therefore we'll end up with a new train fleet, funded off the back of leasing the Crossrail fleet, running on knackered tracks with the same useless signalling and power supply as today. So that's all good isn't it? Lovely!
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 20, 2018 21:16:16 GMT
Press announcement from Siemens in Munich they are based on Inspiro platform The full Press release suggests that increase to 27 trains per hour will not be until 2026 so its likely that most will be delivered during 2024-2025 (or maybe running on to 2026) Apparently the government have so far refused to grant TfL the funding they need to actually improve the line's infrastructure and TfL don't have the funds either. Therefore we'll end up with a new train fleet, funded off the back of leasing the Crossrail fleet, running on knackered tracks with the same useless signalling and power supply as today. So that's all good isn't it? Every Journey Matters, even those on worn out track
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Post by redbus on Nov 27, 2018 11:44:46 GMT
Apparently the government have so far refused to grant TfL the funding they need to actually improve the line's infrastructure and TfL don't have the funds either. Therefore we'll end up with a new train fleet, funded off the back of leasing the Crossrail fleet, running on knackered tracks with the same useless signalling and power supply as today. So that's all good isn't it? Every Journey Matters, even those on worn out track Ahh but people will see the lovely new trains, the track and electricity supply they don't see. It will therefore be a marvellous improvement even with service disruptions caused by the worn infrastructure!
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Post by snowman on Feb 4, 2019 16:11:02 GMT
Here we go again, The Derby Telegraph (which of course covers the Bombardier factory) reports that there are calls for a review, following suggestions that two thirds of the Piccadilly line trains might be built in Vienna, as the proposed factory in Goole won't open before 2023 www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/business/overseas-factory-claim-triggers-call-2504009So it looks like the Canadian-Japanese consortium (Bombardier-Hitachi) are upset that a German Company (Siemens) might build some trains abroad. However it does rather make a mockery of the Mayors and TfLs Press releases about the new trains supporting British Industry and jobs etc
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 12, 2019 20:31:54 GMT
Here we go again, The Derby Telegraph (which of course covers the Bombardier factory) reports that there are calls for a review, following suggestions that two thirds of the Piccadilly line trains might be built in Vienna, as the proposed factory in Goole won't open before 2023 www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/business/overseas-factory-claim-triggers-call-2504009So it looks like the Canadian-Japanese consortium (Bombardier-Hitachi) are upset that a German Company (Siemens) might build some trains abroad. However it does rather make a mockery of the Mayors and TfLs Press releases about the new trains supporting British Industry and jobs etc Bombardier have done so well with the new trains for the Overground Who cares where they are made? Seeing as parts may be an issue after Brexit, there's no point having delayed trains due to lead times on parts because of Customs issues... Bombardier could also sort out the stock for the GOBLIN rather than having to modify the 378's to shorter units... It would just be good having newer trains on the Piccadilly after their refurb in 1991 (they have done well considering their age and have outlived their D78 younger cousins)
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Post by paulsw2 on Feb 12, 2019 20:42:39 GMT
Here we go again, The Derby Telegraph (which of course covers the Bombardier factory) reports that there are calls for a review, following suggestions that two thirds of the Piccadilly line trains might be built in Vienna, as the proposed factory in Goole won't open before 2023 www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/business/overseas-factory-claim-triggers-call-2504009So it looks like the Canadian-Japanese consortium (Bombardier-Hitachi) are upset that a German Company (Siemens) might build some trains abroad. However it does rather make a mockery of the Mayors and TfLs Press releases about the new trains supporting British Industry and jobs etc Bombardier have done so well with the new trains for the Overground Who cares where they are made? Seeing as parts may be an issue after Brexit, there's no point having delayed trains due to lead times on parts because of Customs issues... Bombardier could also sort out the stock for the GOBLIN rather than having to modify the 378's to shorter units... It would just be good having newer trains on the Piccadilly after their refurb in 1991 (they have done well considering their age and have outlived their D78 younger cousins) The D78 were only withdrawn because of sub surface fleet standardisation there was nothing wrong with the D stock and would have been around for a long time as they had only been refurbed a few years prior the D78 was the most reliable stock (after initial teething problems).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 20:48:51 GMT
Here we go again, The Derby Telegraph (which of course covers the Bombardier factory) reports that there are calls for a review, following suggestions that two thirds of the Piccadilly line trains might be built in Vienna, as the proposed factory in Goole won't open before 2023 www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/business/overseas-factory-claim-triggers-call-2504009So it looks like the Canadian-Japanese consortium (Bombardier-Hitachi) are upset that a German Company (Siemens) might build some trains abroad. However it does rather make a mockery of the Mayors and TfLs Press releases about the new trains supporting British Industry and jobs etc Bombardier have done so well with the new trains for the Overground Who cares where they are made? Seeing as parts may be an issue after Brexit, there's no point having delayed trains due to lead times on parts because of Customs issues... Bombardier could also sort out the stock for the GOBLIN rather than having to modify the 378's to shorter units... It would just be good having newer trains on the Piccadilly after their refurb in 1991 (they have done well considering their age and have outlived their D78 younger cousins) Was it 91? I remember starting work in central London in 96 and using a mixture of refurbished and unrefurbished trains. I still remember those novelty products being advertised using the grab handles (mainly deodorant )
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 12, 2019 21:03:01 GMT
Bombardier have done so well with the new trains for the Overground Who cares where they are made? Seeing as parts may be an issue after Brexit, there's no point having delayed trains due to lead times on parts because of Customs issues... Bombardier could also sort out the stock for the GOBLIN rather than having to modify the 378's to shorter units... It would just be good having newer trains on the Piccadilly after their refurb in 1991 (they have done well considering their age and have outlived their D78 younger cousins) Was it 91? I remember starting work in central London in 96 and using a mixture of refurbished and unrefurbished trains. I still remember those novelty products being advertised using the grab handles (mainly deodorant ) Definitely mid 90's it was done after the Victoria line, the new central line 92 stock first to deature new livery, then seat perches at end internally of carriage.
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Post by TA1 on Feb 12, 2019 21:11:30 GMT
Was it 91? I remember starting work in central London in 96 and using a mixture of refurbished and unrefurbished trains. I still remember those novelty products being advertised using the grab handles (mainly deodorant ) Definitely mid 90's it was done after the Victoria line, the new central line 92 stock first to deature new livery, then seat perches at end internally of carriage. Indeed, It was later than 1991 as originally stated. The refurbishment commenced in 1995 and finished in August 2000, with the last refurbished unit to re-enter traffic entering in July 2001 according to my notes.
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 12, 2019 21:35:05 GMT
Bombardier have done so well with the new trains for the Overground Who cares where they are made? Seeing as parts may be an issue after Brexit, there's no point having delayed trains due to lead times on parts because of Customs issues... Bombardier could also sort out the stock for the GOBLIN rather than having to modify the 378's to shorter units... It would just be good having newer trains on the Piccadilly after their refurb in 1991 (they have done well considering their age and have outlived their D78 younger cousins) Was it 91? I remember starting work in central London in 96 and using a mixture of refurbished and unrefurbished trains. I still remember those novelty products being advertised using the grab handles (mainly deodorant ) I remember that too back in '96 when travelcards were around a fiver, and the first serious portable mobiles appeared, that didn't need a hefty battery Mine was the Mitsubishi MT-11 with over 4 hours talktime cost a fortune for any actual calls on Cellnet (now o2) Might have been '95 when the trains appeared in what was then a strange red white and blue but they have aged pretty well I was too busy out and about in my MG Mini Metro back in the day there was plenty going on, the first low floor buses on the E8 in white and orange of Armchair would replace the Renault Wright buses with flipdot rear blinds
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 21, 2022 16:13:22 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 21, 2022 22:18:02 GMT
Some more pics with the mayor London Underground: Sadiq Khan visits Goole Tube trains factory London mayor Sadiq Khan has used a visit to a Yorkshire factory making new Tube trains to call for more long-term government funding for similar work. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-60820915
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Post by Busboy105 on Mar 21, 2022 22:51:01 GMT
Some more pics with the mayor London Underground: Sadiq Khan visits Goole Tube trains factory London mayor Sadiq Khan has used a visit to a Yorkshire factory making new Tube trains to call for more long-term government funding for similar work. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-60820915Can't wait for these trains... I'll enjoy the 73 stock while it lasts
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Post by Green Kitten on Mar 22, 2022 8:11:01 GMT
When I first saw the Tom Edwards tweet I thought it was just a computer mock up for some reason.
Nice to see it’s all real
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