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Post by george on Nov 10, 2019 22:18:07 GMT
Proper conductors on the LTs so that any door boarding is maintained with reduction to fare evasion. On top of that concentrate the LTs more on the central London routes, which means conversion back to regular deckers on routes like the 267 and 415, moving them to for example the 52 and 139. Any route which gets a lot of fare evasion isn't fit for LTs. I think the 149 should use HVs when there's an LT shortage at AR as you're more likely to get fare dodging on the 149 than the 19. I think we'll see LTs moved out of Central London in favour of electrics though as george says. I know people don't like speculation on this fourm but that's what I'm going to do. I can see the 9 being the first route to loose it's LTs with them moving to another route.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 10, 2019 22:22:57 GMT
Any route which gets a lot of fare evasion isn't fit for LTs. I think the 149 should use HVs when there's an LT shortage at AR as you're more likely to get fare dodging on the 149 than the 19. I think we'll see LTs moved out of Central London in favour of electrics though as george says. I know people don't like speculation on this fourm but that's what I'm going to do. I can see the 9 being the first route to loose it's LTs with them moving to another route. Bold prediction. I think it will be a route which has more fare dodging than the 9 such as the 12, 38, 55, 148, 149, 253, 254, or 415
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Post by george on Nov 10, 2019 22:22:59 GMT
Proper conductors on the LTs so that any door boarding is maintained with reduction to fare evasion. On top of that concentrate the LTs more on the central London routes, which means conversion back to regular deckers on routes like the 267 and 415, moving them to for example the 52 and 139. Any route which gets a lot of fare evasion isn't fit for LTs. I think the 149 should use HVs when there's an LT shortage at AR as you're more likely to get fare dodging on the 149 than the 19. I think we'll see LTs moved out of Central London in favour of electrics though as george says. The programme about fare dodgers on Channel 5 was centered around the 149. I think it's too late to stop fare dodging now if you see a HV you're either going to wait for an LT to arrive which will be minutes behind or just board through the back on a HV. I know TfL are trying to stop fare dodging but taking away the cards readers at the back of the LTs, I do think it's too little too late as someone who doesn't want to pay will still board through the back.
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Post by george on Nov 10, 2019 22:24:44 GMT
I know people don't like speculation on this fourm but that's what I'm going to do. I can see the 9 being the first route to loose it's LTs with them moving to another route. Bold prediction. I think it will be a route which has more fare dodging than the 9 such as the 12, 38, 55, 148, 149, 253, 254, or 415 Yeah maybe you're right just picked the 9 as it was one of the first routes to convert. I know 38 converted before the 9 I can't remember if the 12 was before or after the 9 conversation? EDIT. I got it wrong the 9 fully converted before the 38 did.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 10, 2019 22:31:34 GMT
I know people don't like speculation on this fourm but that's what I'm going to do. I can see the 9 being the first route to loose it's LTs with them moving to another route. Bold prediction. I think it will be a route which has more fare dodging than the 9 such as the 12, 38, 55, 148, 149, 253, 254, or 415 With LT routes soon going front door boarding only that might be less of an issue. I would predict route 8 as the first as it was the first route to gain them on tender so they will certainly not be allowed on for a third term.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 22:40:18 GMT
Any route which gets a lot of fare evasion isn't fit for LTs. I think the 149 should use HVs when there's an LT shortage at AR as you're more likely to get fare dodging on the 149 than the 19. I think we'll see LTs moved out of Central London in favour of electrics though as george says. I know people don't like speculation on this fourm but that's what I'm going to do. I can see the 9 being the first route to loose it's LTs with them moving to another route. It's not that people don't like speculation its more when it spreads it to every thread! Instead of the dedicated section.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 10, 2019 22:45:29 GMT
Bold prediction. I think it will be a route which has more fare dodging than the 9 such as the 12, 38, 55, 148, 149, 253, 254, or 415 Yeah maybe you're right just picked the 9 as it was one of the first routes to convert. I know 38 converted before the 9 I can't remember if the 12 was before or after the 9 conversation? EDIT. I got it wrong the 9 fully converted before the 38 did. Talking of RATP LTs, having let many of their indigenous LTs go, they clearly aren't for sentimental value lol.
*I know all LTs are the same and it doesn't really matter, just a bit of humour
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Post by george on Nov 10, 2019 22:48:26 GMT
I know people don't like speculation on this fourm but that's what I'm going to do. I can see the 9 being the first route to loose it's LTs with them moving to another route. It's not that people don't like speculation its more when it spreads it to every thread! Instead of the dedicated section. Fair enough, sometimes you have to speculate on other threads but I fully understand what you are saying.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 11, 2019 0:04:18 GMT
Enviro 400 MMCs on the 24, 27, 267 and 211 The 211's had the odd MMC sightings
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Post by M1104 on Nov 11, 2019 0:07:13 GMT
Bold prediction. I think it will be a route which has more fare dodging than the 9 such as the 12, 38, 55, 148, 149, 253, 254, or 415 With LT routes soon going front door boarding only that might be less of an issue. I would predict route 8 as the first as it was the first route to gain them on tender so they will certainly not be allowed on for a third term. Unless they gain newer LTs from elsewhere, similarly to for example the 37 gaining newer Es upon retender.
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Post by rj131 on Nov 11, 2019 18:35:52 GMT
I’d love to see a 358 MEC on the 227. Surprised they haven’t been reblinded for it yet.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 11, 2019 18:46:30 GMT
I’d love to see a 358 MEC on the 227. Surprised they haven’t been reblinded for it yet. One has, unfortunately the one which was MEC51 which was unfortunately involved in the incident that took place on the 31st October.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 11, 2019 20:00:32 GMT
I’d love to see a 358 MEC on the 227. Surprised they haven’t been reblinded for it yet. One has, unfortunately the one which was MEC51 which was unfortunately involved in the incident that took place on the 31st October. I hope MB take the blinds set out of MEC51 and put it another MEC for greater flexibility and increases the chance of a MEC on the 227
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Post by LVF_Admin on Nov 11, 2019 22:10:27 GMT
Proper conductors on the LTs so that any door boarding is maintained with reduction to fare evasion. On top of that concentrate the LTs more on the central London routes, which means conversion back to regular deckers on routes like the 267 and 415, moving them to for example the 52 and 139. I see more out of central London routes getting LTs with central london concentrating on electrics in the future. Where would you find the funds to cover the staffing overheads to make this work?
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Post by george on Nov 11, 2019 23:30:58 GMT
I see more out of central London routes getting LTs with central london concentrating on electrics in the future. Where would you find the funds to cover the staffing overheads to make this work? Just an idea didn't have the figures in my head if I'm honest. You can't role it out electric buses are the future.
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