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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 23, 2018 13:19:43 GMT
Another stupid proposal by that imbecile Khan. To me it would hardly do anything to stop obesity, same as the pathetic so called sugar tax. Just a matter of idiots doing stuff to prep up their "CV" He can go in countries where they do not even have adverts on the streets etc and people do not watch tv but people are getting obese. Too much of it is a lazy lifestyle, sleeping patterns, shift working, not much manual labour and chemicals and processed food.
Tube 'junk food' advert ban announced by London mayor www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46306198
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Post by sid on Nov 23, 2018 13:51:47 GMT
Another stupid proposal by that imbecile Khan. To me it would hardly do anything to stop obesity, same as the pathetic so called sugar tax. Just a matter of idiots doing stuff to prep up their "CV" He can go in countries where they do not even have adverts on the streets etc and people do not watch tv but people are getting obese. Too much of it is a lazy lifestyle, sleeping patterns, shift working, not much manual labour and chemicals and processed food.
Tube 'junk food' advert ban announced by London mayor www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46306198 If it's not going to make any difference as you suggest why would these companies spend so much money on advertising? I very much agree with the ban just like with tobacco advertising.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 23, 2018 14:14:05 GMT
They'll still be plenty of on-board advertisements (so to speak) on seats and floors; half empty KFC boxes, chocolate wrappers, coke cans, etc.
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Post by Pilot on Nov 23, 2018 14:17:26 GMT
Just curious then, (slightly off topic), is it the TFL responsible for all the advertising on the buses or the bus company? Because there are a lot of buses with no ads, and cutting back on advertising of any sorts probably not exactly brightest idea. It's already ironic some of the ads you see on buses, such as mini cab companies and so on.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 23, 2018 14:29:02 GMT
Just curious then, (slightly off topic), is it the TFL responsible for all the advertising on the buses or the bus company? TfL are responsible for which the bus companies must adhere to as it's one of the conditions of contract. The ads are placed/replaced on buses by a third party on behalf of TfL.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 23, 2018 16:52:44 GMT
Another stupid proposal by that imbecile Khan. To me it would hardly do anything to stop obesity, same as the pathetic so called sugar tax. Just a matter of idiots doing stuff to prep up their "CV" He can go in countries where they do not even have adverts on the streets etc and people do not watch tv but people are getting obese. Too much of it is a lazy lifestyle, sleeping patterns, shift working, not much manual labour and chemicals and processed food.
Tube 'junk food' advert ban announced by London mayor www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46306198 If it's not going to make any difference as you suggest why would these companies spend so much money on advertising? I very much agree with the ban just like with tobacco advertising. The UK already has some of the strictest advertising rules going as pointed out by an advertisement expert on the BBC this morning - the said expert pointed out that the ban would have little effect given companies are not allowed to directly advertise at kids currently.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 23, 2018 16:57:19 GMT
Just curious then, (slightly off topic), is it the TFL responsible for all the advertising on the buses or the bus company? Because there are a lot of buses with no ads, and cutting back on advertising of any sorts probably not exactly brightest idea. It's already ironic some of the ads you see on buses, such as mini cab companies and so on. You’d think an organisation that’s got a financial black hole would seriously not cut off a vital revenue stream. The only way to solve the obesity crisis is through education and not through ineffective bans.
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Post by sid on Nov 23, 2018 17:00:47 GMT
If it's not going to make any difference as you suggest why would these companies spend so much money on advertising? I very much agree with the ban just like with tobacco advertising. The UK already has some of the strictest advertising rules going as pointed out by an advertisement expert on the BBC this morning - the said expert pointed out that the ban would have little effect given companies are not allowed to directly advertise at kids currently. If the ban will have little effect these companies wouldn't be spending vast sums of money on advertising in the first place.
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Post by snoggle on Nov 23, 2018 23:07:46 GMT
It is worth pointing out that Diamond Geezer did a random check a few months back on many junk food ads there were on the tube and bus network. He found a tiny number of such ads. Therefore this is a grand gesture that will have negligible impact on people's exposure to such advertising nor on TfL's third party revenue. I strongly suspect that if TfL were earning hundreds of millions from such adverts that we would not see this policy. TfL couldn't afford the impact on its bottom line and the Mayor has no money to fill the gap. It is hardly worth anyone getting "hot under the collar" about. I don't doubt the food companies, supermarkets and fast food outlets get a good return for their advertising - it's just not really on the transport network regardless of the marketing profile of those who use the tube and buses. It's on telly, it's on roadside posters, it's via social media, radio and online and in store. That's where people are influenced, not on the bus or tube. I certainly can't recall the last time I saw a food advert on the tube - it's normally useless stuff for tech driven "new" businesses which are of zero interest to me. The real problems are with the cost of food, the over reliance of processed food where people have little clue what's in it and the appalling lack of cooking skills - especially via schools. We have entire generations of people who don't know how to cook even the simplest of meals. The government, of whatever political hue [1], are never interested in properly protecting / educating the population because political funding contributions from big business are more important. It's been an ongoing disaster since the late 70s - 40 years on we can see the results. It only gets worse from here on unless something very radical is done. God help us if we are flooded with appalling processed food from the States as the likes of Gove and Fox are ready to see happen (despite their public statements). [1] Labour are as compromised on this as the Tories are.
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 23, 2018 23:30:02 GMT
It is worth pointing out that Diamond Geezer did a random check a few months back on many junk food ads there were on the tube and bus network. He found a tiny number of such ads. Therefore this is a grand gesture that will have negligible impact on people's exposure to such advertising nor on TfL's third party revenue. I strongly suspect that if TfL were earning hundreds of millions from such adverts that we would not see this policy. TfL couldn't afford the impact on its bottom line and the Mayor has no money to fill the gap. It is hardly worth anyone getting "hot under the collar" about. I don't doubt the food companies, supermarkets and fast food outlets get a good return for their advertising - it's just not really on the transport network regardless of the marketing profile of those who use the tube and buses. It's on telly, it's on roadside posters, it's via social media, radio and online and in store. That's where people are influenced, not on the bus or tube. I certainly can't recall the last time I saw a food advert on the tube - it's normally useless stuff for tech driven "new" businesses which are of zero interest to me. The real problems are with the cost of food, the over reliance of processed food where people have little clue what's in it and the appalling lack of cooking skills - especially via schools. We have entire generations of people who don't know how to cook even the simplest of meals. The government, of whatever political hue [1], are never interested in properly protecting / educating the population because political funding contributions from big business are more important. It's been an ongoing disaster since the late 70s - 40 years on we can see the results. It only gets worse from here on unless something very radical is done. God help us if we are flooded with appalling processed food from the States as the likes of Gove and Fox are ready to see happen (despite their public statements). [1] Labour are as compromised on this as the Tories are. Our food is not yet at the junk status (pun intended) of US processed or intensive farming, and I think EU law will prevent that (we are heading for BRINO / Brexit In Name Only if anything), plus the more multicultural nature of foods in London will see a variety of different meals. Sadly in poor areas the chicken shop is king - these don't advertise but people know where these shops are. I think some of the firms that do advertise have more social responsibility and have changed their meals to be a little bit more healthy - such as McDonalds doing salads etc. These firms do use other channels as quoted above so this empty gesture from Sadiq would be as a red light to a cyclist and largely ignored. No doubt he's appointed someone to this role (salary undisclosed ) he will be tearing down the famous Coca Cola ad in Piccadilly next... still, a deflection off the Crossrail saga, spiralling knife crime, tumbling bus passenger numbers, chronic congestion or other more pressing issues
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Post by allentc on Nov 24, 2018 10:51:01 GMT
Another stupid proposal by that imbecile Khan. To me it would hardly do anything to stop obesity, same as the pathetic so called sugar tax. Just a matter of idiots doing stuff to prep up their "CV" Khan really is an idiot. With rampant crime going on in London, Crossrail late and over budget, TFL with major budgetary issues this window dressing is top of his agenda?! He is no where to be seen when there are important issues to discuss. Always goes into hiding: only surfaces to comment when its Trump related.
I don't mean to put people out of jobs or to close their businesses but what about all the station based newsagents/confectioners? Many have one of some sort either on the platform or greeting you at the entrance. What are they full of? Crisps, chocolates, sweets, soft drinks...
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Post by John tuthill on Nov 24, 2018 14:05:44 GMT
Another stupid proposal by that imbecile Khan. To me it would hardly do anything to stop obesity, same as the pathetic so called sugar tax. Just a matter of idiots doing stuff to prep up their "CV" Khan really is an idiot. With rampant crime going on in London, Crossrail late and over budget, TFL with major budgetary issues this window dressing is top of his agenda?! He is no where to be seen when there are important issues to discuss. Always goes into hiding: only surfaces to comment when its Trump related.
I don't mean to put people out of jobs or to close their businesses but what about all the station based newsagents/confectioners? Many have one of some sort either on the platform or greeting you at the entrance. What are they full of? Crisps, chocolates, sweets, soft drinks... And even worse than that-in Kingston Hospital in the Hemotology department, next to the drinks vending machines is a machine full of crisps and chocolate!!
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 25, 2018 22:39:25 GMT
Another stupid proposal by that imbecile Khan. To me it would hardly do anything to stop obesity, same as the pathetic so called sugar tax. Just a matter of idiots doing stuff to prep up their "CV" He can go in countries where they do not even have adverts on the streets etc and people do not watch tv but people are getting obese. Too much of it is a lazy lifestyle, sleeping patterns, shift working, not much manual labour and chemicals and processed food.
Tube 'junk food' advert ban announced by London mayor www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46306198 If it's not going to make any difference as you suggest why would these companies spend so much money on advertising? I very much agree with the ban just like with tobacco advertising. And the ban on tobacco advertising has had little effect. Just like the stupid plain packets, and covered behind the shelf. I do not smoke and it wont tempt me to smoke. Saw loads of tobacco ads on tv billboards etc. I didn't end up being a chain smoker.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 25, 2018 22:43:35 GMT
It is worth pointing out that Diamond Geezer did a random check a few months back on many junk food ads there were on the tube and bus network. He found a tiny number of such ads. Therefore this is a grand gesture that will have negligible impact on people's exposure to such advertising nor on TfL's third party revenue. I strongly suspect that if TfL were earning hundreds of millions from such adverts that we would not see this policy. TfL couldn't afford the impact on its bottom line and the Mayor has no money to fill the gap. It is hardly worth anyone getting "hot under the collar" about. I don't doubt the food companies, supermarkets and fast food outlets get a good return for their advertising - it's just not really on the transport network regardless of the marketing profile of those who use the tube and buses. It's on telly, it's on roadside posters, it's via social media, radio and online and in store. That's where people are influenced, not on the bus or tube. I certainly can't recall the last time I saw a food advert on the tube - it's normally useless stuff for tech driven "new" businesses which are of zero interest to me. The real problems are with the cost of food, the over reliance of processed food where people have little clue what's in it and the appalling lack of cooking skills - especially via schools. We have entire generations of people who don't know how to cook even the simplest of meals. The government, of whatever political hue [1], are never interested in properly protecting / educating the population because political funding contributions from big business are more important. It's been an ongoing disaster since the late 70s - 40 years on we can see the results. It only gets worse from here on unless something very radical is done. God help us if we are flooded with appalling processed food from the States as the likes of Gove and Fox are ready to see happen (despite their public statements). [1] Labour are as compromised on this as the Tories are. Our food is not yet at the junk status (pun intended) of US processed or intensive farming, and I think EU law will prevent that (we are heading for BRINO / Brexit In Name Only if anything), plus the more multicultural nature of foods in London will see a variety of different meals. Sadly in poor areas the chicken shop is king - these don't advertise but people know where these shops are. I think some of the firms that do advertise have more social responsibility and have changed their meals to be a little bit more healthy - such as McDonalds doing salads etc. These firms do use other channels as quoted above so this empty gesture from Sadiq would be as a red light to a cyclist and largely ignored. No doubt he's appointed someone to this role (salary undisclosed ) he will be tearing down the famous Coca Cola ad in Piccadilly next... still, a deflection off the Crossrail saga, spiralling knife crime, tumbling bus passenger numbers, chronic congestion or other more pressing issues Last night I had a dream of the next mayoral election, Sadia Khan had lost to the Ken Livingstone. It was so unreal, pity it wasn't true.
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Post by sid on Nov 26, 2018 11:46:03 GMT
If it's not going to make any difference as you suggest why would these companies spend so much money on advertising? I very much agree with the ban just like with tobacco advertising. And the ban on tobacco advertising has had little effect. Just like the stupid plain packets, and covered behind the shelf. I do not smoke and it wont tempt me to smoke. Saw loads of tobacco ads on tv billboards etc. I didn't end up being a chain smoker. If that were the case would companies really be spending vast sums of money on advertising?
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