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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 13:37:01 GMT
Interesting! I wonder which would be the closest to 1? The 149 and N16 are possible contenders! 25, N25, 86, N86 as well I think 32, 207 and N207 too. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 28, 2018 17:26:10 GMT
25, N25, 86, N86 as well I think 32, 207 and N207 too. 109 most likely up there as well |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 18:22:31 GMT
Very interesting this " sinuosity",I mentioned route 191 in the "oddball routes" thread. I wonder what its sinuosity is. It takes about 65-70 minutes off peak, whereas direct would be about 15-20 minutes. But if the route was cut back to run Ponders End to Brimsdown then I'd expect a high sinuosity indeed.
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Post by bengady3 on Nov 28, 2018 19:19:25 GMT
Route 181 has a sinuosity of 2.3
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Post by snowman on Nov 28, 2018 19:23:01 GMT
109 most likely up there as well Not sure how you are scoring this, but I would nominate K5, as it has about 40-50 corners or junctions where turns are made in each direction, (of which about 30-35 are approx 90 degrees) so overall equivalent to about 10 complete circles, see expandable map on link Just to keep driver awake, reverse journey uses different roads in number of places, tfl.gov.uk/bus/status/?Input=K5+towards+Ham&lineIds=k5&direction=inbound |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 28, 2018 22:42:47 GMT
109 most likely up there as well Not sure how you are scoring this, but I would nominate K5, as it has about 40-50 corners or junctions where turns are made in each direction, (of which about 30-35 are approx 90 degrees) so overall equivalent to about 10 complete circles, see expandable map on link Just to keep driver awake, reverse journey uses different roads in number of places, tfl.gov.uk/bus/status/?Input=K5+towards+Ham&lineIds=k5&direction=inboundSomeone mentioned straight routes and the 109 fits that mould hence my comment. |
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Post by ctrh136 on Nov 28, 2018 23:24:20 GMT
455 must be up there? Definitely one for taking the longest way around between Purley and Wallington compared with the direct 127
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Post by lundnah on Nov 28, 2018 23:49:26 GMT
The 191 and the 455 both have a sinuosity of about 4. The K5 is more like 2.
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Post by Alexis on Nov 29, 2018 0:36:11 GMT
The scientific way to measure roundabout-ness is called 'sinuosity'. It's the ratio of the actual distance divided by the direct distance. A perfectly straight bus route would have a sinuosity of 1. The H13 and the 224 both have a sinuosity of about 8. The 376 has a sinuosity of roughly 5, the 325 approximately 4, the new 23 more like 3½, the 386 about 3 and the P5 roughly 2½. Interesting! I wonder which would be the closest to 1? The 149 and N16 are possible contenders! The 215 would probably also be up there As for 'roundabout' routes there's the N253 and possibly also the D7? |
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Post by lundnah on Nov 29, 2018 8:52:48 GMT
Interesting! I wonder which would be the closest to 1? The 149 and N16 are possible contenders! The 215 would probably also be up there As for 'roundabout' routes there's the N253 and possibly also the D7? The N253 scores a bit less than 5, and the D7 a bit less than 4. |
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Post by rj131 on Nov 29, 2018 9:23:07 GMT
25, N25, 86, N86 as well I think 32, 207 and N207 too. No way can any route beat the 32. Like even the 149/16/86/207 have got slight curves in the road even though they travel along solely that road but the 32 and Kilburn High Road is somehow absolutely arrow straight, except from its termini just off the road. It’s why I hate it so much, got to be the most dull and boring bus route in the whole of London (personal opinion obviously). |
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Post by rj131 on Nov 29, 2018 9:24:32 GMT
The scientific way to measure roundabout-ness is called 'sinuosity'. It's the ratio of the actual distance divided by the direct distance. A perfectly straight bus route would have a sinuosity of 1. The H13 and the 224 both have a sinuosity of about 8. The 376 has a sinuosity of roughly 5, the 325 approximately 4, the new 23 more like 3½, the 386 about 3 and the P5 roughly 2½. How about the 61 and 46, both stupidly roundabout routes. Surely the circular routes (H9/10/18/19 etc) have infinite sinuosity?  |
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Post by lundnah on Nov 29, 2018 12:01:18 GMT
The 61 has a sinuosity of around 5.
The 46 is just under 3.
In summary, so far...
About 8: H13, 224
About 7:
About 6:
About 5: 61, 376, N253
About 4: 191, 325, 455, D7
About 3: 23, 46, 386, P5
About 2: 181, K5
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Post by ronnie on Nov 29, 2018 15:29:25 GMT
The 61 has a sinuosity of around 5. The 46 is just under 3. In summary, so far... About 8: H13, 224 About 7:About 6:About 5: 61, 376, N253 About 4: 191, 325, 455, D7 About 3: 23, 46, 386, P5 About 2: 181, K5 While it lasts, 101 is quite circuitous as well |
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Post by busoccultation on Nov 29, 2018 17:24:58 GMT
The 61 has a sinuosity of around 5. The 46 is just under 3. In summary, so far... About 8: H13, 224 About 7:About 6:About 5: 61, 376, N253 About 4: 191, 325, 455, D7 About 3: 23, 46, 386, P5 About 2: 181, K5 While it lasts, 101 is quite circuitous as well You mean the 104 as the 101 routing is mostly in a straight line?
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