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Post by Paul on Feb 6, 2019 16:40:21 GMT
Does anybody have any experience of the second incarnation of the 1 (1987-91). Was it reliable, were many actually seen in Bromley. I know from the timetable it had a journey time of 93 mins! and ran every 15 mins. My dad used to drive the 1 out of Bromley. Since it was run from TB and all but a handful of duties did one rounder on each half the service only saw turns at the Central London end where punters could be transferred to an NX 1. When I used to go to work with my dad it was very rare to get turned and the service seemed to run pretty well. I have only vague recollections of a turn to the Bricklayers Arms once The Surrey Docks short were indeed run by NX and my dad always said they would wait for the TB buses to go through and punch them through to Trafalgar Square. It used to be a bit of a bone of contention that TB drivers were doing all the work. My dad likes to tell a story whereby after a few days of an NX 1 taking the mick with the punching he passed one on the stand at Surrey Docks then hammered it down Hawkstone Road and went back around the one way system before the NX 1 knew what had happened. Dad then passed a very full NX 1 with a big smile on his face. The NX driver wasn’t best pleased! 😂 As I recall TB did have a handful of duties that ran Surrey Docks ‘swingers’ in the peak periods. These would do TB-TSQ-SD-TSQ-TB on one half instead of the regular rounder The journey was pretty lengthy - I dread to think what the journey time might be these days! I used to like going to work with my dad when he was doing the 1s - used to really enjoy the journey
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 6, 2019 17:15:54 GMT
Thanks for that. Great stories of an interesting route.
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Post by busaholic on Feb 6, 2019 21:38:56 GMT
Does anybody have any experience of the second incarnation of the 1 (1987-91). Was it reliable, were many actually seen in Bromley. I know from the timetable it had a journey time of 93 mins! and ran every 15 mins. My dad used to drive the 1 out of Bromley. Since it was run from TB and all but a handful of duties did one rounder on each half the service only saw turns at the Central London end where punters could be transferred to an NX 1. When I used to go to work with my dad it was very rare to get turned and the service seemed to run pretty well. I have only vague recollections of a turn to the Bricklayers Arms once The Surrey Docks short were indeed run by NX and my dad always said they would wait for the TB buses to go through and punch them through to Trafalgar Square. It used to be a bit of a bone of contention that TB drivers were doing all the work. My dad likes to tell a story whereby after a few days of an NX 1 taking the mick with the punching he passed one on the stand at Surrey Docks then hammered it down Hawkstone Road and went back around the one way system before the NX 1 knew what had happened. Dad then passed a very full NX 1 with a big smile on his face. The NX driver wasn’t best pleased! 😂 As I recall TB did have a handful of duties that ran Surrey Docks ‘swingers’ in the peak periods. These would do TB-TSQ-SD-TSQ-TB on one half instead of the regular rounder The journey was pretty lengthy - I dread to think what the journey time might be these days! I used to like going to work with my dad when he was doing the 1s - used to really enjoy the journey Great story - that'd be exactly how I would have expected it to have operated. The old Surrey Docks trick happened in crew days too, and was even more contentious when you consider the conductor's job, the only difference being it was TL crews doing the complaining! Got to say, I saw something similar in the opposite direction between a 1 and 47 both bound for Catford, and the one in front 'got lost' and managed to do a complete circuit and get behind! In 47 to Farnborough days, the TL buses turned at Bromley Garage used to wait for the TB bus from Farnborough to arrive before pulling out! If the TB bus had a crew change it tended to b*gger up their little scheme, though! Petts Wood shorts on the 94 were an even bigger bone of contention between TL and TB though!
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 6, 2019 22:37:50 GMT
Wasn't a very balanced freq thou. Surely it would have been better for the TB one to be scheduled 7-8 mins before an NX one departed and vice versa to give an even service between SQ and Tr.sq.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Feb 9, 2019 19:43:46 GMT
Maybe we could even extend the 1 to TB and discontinue the 199 and pull the 320 back to Bromley North. Fantasy I know. Route 1 was extended to Bromley to replace (then) route 199 in 1987. Already covered before my reply, but great minds think alike.
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