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Post by george on Mar 8, 2020 18:12:54 GMT
According to a reliable source the next batch of routes will convert on March 20th: 9/N9, 11/N11, 12/N12, 59, 87/N87, 137, 176, and 211 100% 87 and 176 will be converting on the 20th March as I've been on both those routes within the last few days and Ibus announcement have been going off saying "From the 20th March you must board all buses on this route from the front door and touch your card by the driver." Both times I've been on a WHV rather than an LT so was quite strange hearing that announcement on a conventional bus.
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Post by Nathan on Mar 8, 2020 18:48:23 GMT
Interesting that the Arriva London South LT routes are converting first before the North division. Seems like they are focusing mainly on South London routes. I'm guessing NX is not quite ready though as the 21 and 453 do not appear to be included on this round. Thankfully! It's going to be a bit less inconvenient going home during the peak when the 21 eventually implements this 🙄
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Post by busaholic on Mar 8, 2020 21:06:01 GMT
Guys, I would like to apologise for my behaviour over past 48 hours, but something left me very angry about life and I took it out on a few posters. Upon reviewing my posts, maybe the sentiment of my posts was correct, but the way I delivered them was very wrong, for which I humbly apologize. I understand if those affected don't accept this apology. Takes a big person to admit when they are wrong so fair play to you We're all wrong sometimes: the ones you have to worry about are those who won't admit it, or, even worse, never think they are. Having worked for the Probation Service, I'm acutely aware how what was essentially one mistake can cause enormous ramifications forever more, particularly to those from the lower strata. So, yes, it does take a big person to eat humble pie, and one should respect them for it.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Mar 9, 2020 19:18:13 GMT
According to a reliable source the next batch of routes will convert on March 20th: 9/N9, 11/N11, 12/N12, 59, 87/N87, 137, 176, and 211 100% 87 and 176 will be converting on the 20th March as I've been on both those routes within the last few days and Ibus announcement have been going off saying "From the 20th March you must board all buses on this route from the front door and touch your card by the driver." Both times I've been on a WHV rather than an LT so was quite strange hearing that announcement on a conventional bus. The mentions on the 176 appear to be at specific stops, I've heard them at Penge West Station, Sydenham Station, Forest Hill Station, Dulwich Library, Goose Green and East Dulwich Station where iBus has added a '.' to those stops on the display. Can also confirm they're being played on the 12 as well.
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 10, 2020 7:55:14 GMT
Most if not all LT's on routes going through Brixton have been modified now
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Post by rif153 on Mar 10, 2020 22:15:49 GMT
Most if not all LT's on routes going through Brixton have been modified now The 59 hasn't been modified yet but will have been very soon.
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 11, 2020 7:16:51 GMT
Most if not all LT's on routes going through Brixton have been modified now The 59 hasn't been modified yet but will have been very soon. lol, yeah forgot to specify Abellio
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Post by george on Mar 12, 2020 15:08:25 GMT
Despite changes not officially in place yet the 9 I'm on the driver is open front door first then a short wait until the other doors open.
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Post by M1104 on Mar 20, 2020 15:47:17 GMT
With the 59 now officially converted as of today i imagine the adjustment will be a lot smoother as it runs almost entirely alongside LT routes already converted. The 137 in comparison may require a bit more adjustment time, particularly south of Sloane Square.
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Post by rugbyref on Apr 6, 2020 12:40:29 GMT
Time to reverse the boarding changes to keep passengers away from drivers during the Coronavirus crisis!
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Post by vjaska on Apr 6, 2020 15:50:10 GMT
Time to reverse the boarding changes to keep passengers away from drivers during the Coronavirus crisis! I don’t see that having any effect - I mean if people board through one door, then your increasing the risk of spreading it amongst passengers and then what happens on single door buses? The driver doesn’t need to interact with passengers and has an assault screen
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Post by rif153 on Apr 6, 2020 18:36:03 GMT
Time to reverse the boarding changes to keep passengers away from drivers during the Coronavirus crisis! I don’t see that having any effect - I mean if people board through one door, then your increasing the risk of spreading it amongst passengers and then what happens on single door buses? The driver doesn’t need to interact with passengers and has an assault screen Precisely not to mention causing further unnecessary confusion which we've of which we've had quite enough lately
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Post by rugbyref on Apr 7, 2020 8:50:23 GMT
Time to reverse the boarding changes to keep passengers away from drivers during the Coronavirus crisis! I don’t see that having any effect - I mean if people board through one door, then your increasing the risk of spreading it amongst passengers and then what happens on single door buses? The driver doesn’t need to interact with passengers and has an assault screen With average passenger loadings I have seen of 1-3 per bus, it is easy for passengers to keep distance. Ask drivers, not me, whether they would prefer passengers to board via middle or rear doors where available.
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Post by rif153 on Apr 7, 2020 9:12:25 GMT
I don’t see that having any effect - I mean if people board through one door, then your increasing the risk of spreading it amongst passengers and then what happens on single door buses? The driver doesn’t need to interact with passengers and has an assault screen With average passenger loadings I have seen of 1-3 per bus, it is easy for passengers to keep distance. Ask drivers, not me, whether they would prefer passengers to board via middle or rear doors where available. I've heard unions are calling for boarding through the middle doors to prevent the driver getting COVID 19
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 7, 2020 10:22:28 GMT
With average passenger loadings I have seen of 1-3 per bus, it is easy for passengers to keep distance. Ask drivers, not me, whether they would prefer passengers to board via middle or rear doors where available. I've heard unions are calling for boarding through the middle doors to prevent the driver getting COVID 19 On the other hand, controlled boarding through the front door and alighting through the centre door reduces passenger contact. Most passengers only need to tap a card on the oyster reader and do not need to face or get close to the driver to speak. I know that drivers are contracting coronavirus, and sadly some have now died. Contact with passengers though is not the sole route of transmission. Outside of London very few drivers would have this option. I apologise if my comments here upset or offend anyone. Throughout this crisis I have been trying to see the bigger picture, and to apply considered thought rather than knee-jerk reaction. The answers are not always simple, or without consequence.
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