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Post by astock5000 on Oct 19, 2022 21:34:19 GMT
I'd agree with adding 'Vulcan Way' to the 64 and 130's destination however the 314's seems fine as it is to me, as where a destination is the same as the name of a tram stop or a station I naturally assume the bus will terminate close by. The exception to that would be where the station is some distance from the location it's named after - not really going to be the case in London but quite common in more rural areas. Exceptions might be bexleyheath for example where the train station is some distance away from the town centre Or lewisham for that matter Lewisham station isn't too far in the scheme of things. Bexleyheath's is further away but with the whole area built up is still in the same 'place' unlike Tring for example where the station is a mile outside the town as a whole. I'm kind of in two minds on whether plain 'Bexleyheath' would be okay for the station, however I'll admit to part of that being that I naturally prefer consistency, so on balance it probably is worth having an exception in that case.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 20, 2022 2:19:00 GMT
Exceptions might be bexleyheath for example where the train station is some distance away from the town centre Or lewisham for that matter Lewisham station isn't too far in the scheme of things. Bexleyheath's is further away but with the whole area built up is still in the same 'place' unlike Tring for example where the station is a mile outside the town as a whole. I'm kind of in two minds on whether plain 'Bexleyheath' would be okay for the station, however I'll admit to part of that being that I naturally prefer consistency, so on balance it probably is worth having an exception in that case. I don't think anything terminates at Bexleyheath Station - usually it's Bexleyheath, Shopping Centre or Bexleyheath, Bus Garage. Certainly, the 422 tender spec doesn't say anything about that particular route having a scheduled turn there. I'll be honest, I don't like plain blinds for almost every place including stations - probably the only exceptions would be places like Marble Arch, Aldwych, Oxford Circus, etc
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 20, 2022 5:05:23 GMT
Northumberland Park - Angel Road Superstores has got to be a winner, especially as neither exist. IKEA has closed, leaving Tesco by itself, and Angel Road Station went years ago, replaced by Meridian Water. It's too far east to be Northumberland Park, which is in Haringey N17, the terminus is officially in Enfield, the yet to be built Meridian Water estate, N18 Oddly enough IBus says a different destination from the blinds on the 341 as "Meridian Water Station, Glover Drive"
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Post by uakari on Nov 7, 2022 23:01:00 GMT
Enfield
How am I supposed to know that means Little Park Gardens when Southbury etc is also in Enfield, and Enfield Island Village is also a destination?
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Post by Busboy105 on Nov 7, 2022 23:07:58 GMT
Enfield How am I supposed to know that means Little Park Gardens when Southbury etc is also in Enfield, and Enfield Island Village is also a destination? I don't think Enfield is necessarily that vague (and anyone who lives around Enfield will know that Enfield Island Village is nowhere near Enfield)
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Post by uakari on Nov 8, 2022 1:03:13 GMT
Enfield How am I supposed to know that means Little Park Gardens when Southbury etc is also in Enfield, and Enfield Island Village is also a destination? I don't think Enfield is necessarily that vague (and anyone who lives around Enfield will know that Enfield Island Village is nowhere near Enfield) Some people think Enfield goes all the way from Enfield Chase to Enfield Island Village and Brimsdown. The town doesn't have definitive boundaries like the borough does.
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Post by Busboy105 on Nov 8, 2022 7:27:31 GMT
I don't think Enfield is necessarily that vague (and anyone who lives around Enfield will know that Enfield Island Village is nowhere near Enfield) Some people think Enfield goes all the way from Enfield Chase to Enfield Island Village and Brimsdown. The town doesn't have definitive boundaries like the borough does. Maybe a change to Enfield Town could maybe reduce that confusion. The iBus now says Enfield Town on the 329
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 8, 2022 7:47:53 GMT
Enfield How am I supposed to know that means Little Park Gardens when Southbury etc is also in Enfield, and Enfield Island Village is also a destination? On that basis you could say Harrow, as that means the Bus Station when Wealdstone is also in Harrow, and Harrow Weald is also a destination? Like Enfield, Harrow is both a town and a borough. The destination clearly refers to the town.
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Post by uakari on Nov 8, 2022 16:12:13 GMT
Enfield How am I supposed to know that means Little Park Gardens when Southbury etc is also in Enfield, and Enfield Island Village is also a destination? On that basis you could say Harrow, as that means the Bus Station when Wealdstone is also in Harrow, and Harrow Weald is also a destination? Like Enfield, Harrow is both a town and a borough. The destination clearly refers to the town. Harrow isn't vague because the blinds say Harrow Bus Station. The town of Enfield can be considered to include other areas like Southbury, Bush Hill Park, Crews Hill, Ponders End, Brimsdown, Enfield Lock and Enfield Island Village. So just 'Enfield' isn't specific enough.
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Post by abellion on Nov 8, 2022 16:41:33 GMT
Enfield How am I supposed to know that means Little Park Gardens when Southbury etc is also in Enfield, and Enfield Island Village is also a destination? Unless you’re local/a regular patron to the 329 then TfL has no reason to care. The people who use the route most likely know what “Enfield” is referring to. Someone living in Hounslow has no reason to know where “Rowan Road / Manor Road” is for example.
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Post by VMH2537 on Nov 8, 2022 16:59:25 GMT
On that basis you could say, Harrow, as that means the Bus Station when Wealdstone is also in Harrow, and Harrow Weald is also a destination? Like Enfield, Harrow is both a town and a borough. The destination refers to the town. Harrow isn't vague because the blinds say Harrow Bus Station. The town of Enfield can be considered to include other areas like Southbury, Bush Hill Park, Crews Hill, Ponders End, Brimsdown, Enfield Lock, and Enfield Island Village. So just 'Enfield' isn't specific enough. There are plans to phase out the Enfield blind with the ibus recently announcing "Enfield Town" instead. Should improve the vagueness within.
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Post by surab21 on Nov 8, 2022 17:45:39 GMT
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Post by uakari on Nov 8, 2022 22:18:50 GMT
Enfield How am I supposed to know that means Little Park Gardens when Southbury etc is also in Enfield, and Enfield Island Village is also a destination? Unless you’re local/a regular patron to the 329 then TfL has no reason to care. The people who use the route most likely know what “Enfield” is referring to. Someone living in Hounslow has no reason to know where “Rowan Road / Manor Road” is for example. I think it's quite likely that someone lives near enough to Enfield to know it has different parts that are quite far away from each other, but doesn't know which part a particular route terminates at. There's a balance, eg the proposed 'Enfield Town'.
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 8, 2022 22:30:25 GMT
Harrow isn't vague because the blinds say Harrow Bus Station. The town of Enfield can be considered to include other areas like Southbury, Bush Hill Park, Crews Hill, Ponders End, Brimsdown, Enfield Lock, and Enfield Island Village. So just 'Enfield' isn't specific enough. There are plans to phase out the Enfield blind with the ibus recently announcing "Enfield Town" instead. Should improve the vagueness within. Best way is to retrofit Hanover LEDs (an older E400 bus with Abellio recently had this done), then blinds can reflect these changes. 341 still using "Angel Road Superstores" , despite the buses termination closer to Meridian Water Station, Glover Drive (as said on iBus), as no one wants to shell out for new blinds
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