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Post by sid on Mar 5, 2019 18:05:10 GMT
I don't bother challenging people anymore. I used to, but if they ignore me, what can I do? CentreComm just tell you to carry on, so now I don't challenge them. That's revenue's job. I got spat at recently because I challenged someone. He got on my bus with a friend. The friend paid. Then he just walked straight on. I called him back. Had a big argument, then the friend said 'If he's going to get off, you need to give me a transfer ticket as I need to get off as well'. I refused, and said that I wasn't kicking him off, just his friend, because I knew if I gave him a ticket, he'd just give it to his friend and get on the next bus. Eventually, his friend paid for him, and they went and sat down. Then when he got off the bus, he came up to me and said 'By the way driver, just so you know, you're a pusssy' and spat at me. Since then I don't bother challenging anyone. I don’t blame you. Some passengers think they are entitled to freebies. Luckily some passengers came to the rescue with the driver yesterday. That's the culture that has developed in London over recent years. Drivers being spat at should be reported to the police, disgusting behaviour.
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Post by ronnie on Mar 5, 2019 18:40:21 GMT
I don’t blame you. Some passengers think they are entitled to freebies. Luckily some passengers came to the rescue with the driver yesterday. That's the culture that has developed in London over recent years. Drivers being spat at should be reported to the police, disgusting behaviour. Agree. Has to be stopped somehow. Unfortunately things have taken a turn for the worse to be honest .... I nowadays hesitate in challenging anyone if they are in a group bigger than 3 (knife / acid in east London is rampant, there was an acid attack outside one of the pubs I go to in IoD). Courteousness has also disappeared to be honest. People just don’t get up for elderly people / pregnant women / other people who need seats. Had a recent incident where someone occupie the priority seat from before Canary Wharf (where I got on) till Baker Street playing some video game while there were 3 fairly elderly ladies standing - others gave up their seats of course). A lady argued with me recently when I pointed out the no smoking sign literally below her feet at royal London hospital .... disgusting
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 5, 2019 18:48:44 GMT
That's the culture that has developed in London over recent years. Drivers being spat at should be reported to the police, disgusting behaviour. Agree. Has to be stopped somehow. Unfortunately things have taken a turn for the worse to be honest .... I nowadays hesitate in challenging anyone if they are in a group bigger than 3 (knife / acid in east London is rampant, there was an acid attack outside one of the pubs I go to in IoD). Courteousness has also disappeared to be honest. People just don’t get up for elderly people / pregnant women / other people who need seats. Had a recent incident where someone occupie the priority seat from before Canary Wharf (where I got on) till Baker Street playing some video game while there were 3 fairly elderly ladies standing - others gave up their seats of course). A lady argued with me recently when I pointed out the no smoking sign literally below her feet at royal London hospital .... disgusting Interesting observation, from my commute passengers often tend to be good at giving up seats for the pregnant, elderly and disabled. There was a case the other day when someone didn't notice as he was on his phone but a fellow passenger brought him back to earth and he happily gave up his seat. Buses it seems to be a different case. In Barking there seems to be this interesting trend developing among some of the elderly that they are entitled to get onto a bus first regardless and they shout at people who try to board before them claiming its impolite. That's led to quite a few standoffs along with who gets the priority seat on a bus.
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Post by sid on Mar 5, 2019 19:12:16 GMT
That's the culture that has developed in London over recent years. Drivers being spat at should be reported to the police, disgusting behaviour. Agree. Has to be stopped somehow. Unfortunately things have taken a turn for the worse to be honest .... I nowadays hesitate in challenging anyone if they are in a group bigger than 3 (knife / acid in east London is rampant, there was an acid attack outside one of the pubs I go to in IoD). Courteousness has also disappeared to be honest. People just don’t get up for elderly people / pregnant women / other people who need seats. Had a recent incident where someone occupie the priority seat from before Canary Wharf (where I got on) till Baker Street playing some video game while there were 3 fairly elderly ladies standing - others gave up their seats of course). A lady argued with me recently when I pointed out the no smoking sign literally below her feet at royal London hospital .... disgusting There does seem to be an increasing number of people who think they are entitled to free travel on buses and trains. At least with a paper ticket it's there in black and white whether it's valid or not but with oystercards people claim to have topped up earlier, faulty chip etc and often the driver has little choice but to let them travel. In fairness though I've found the vast majority of people to be polite and courteous.
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Post by 15002 on Mar 5, 2019 19:21:34 GMT
Agree. Has to be stopped somehow. Unfortunately things have taken a turn for the worse to be honest .... I nowadays hesitate in challenging anyone if they are in a group bigger than 3 (knife / acid in east London is rampant, there was an acid attack outside one of the pubs I go to in IoD). Courteousness has also disappeared to be honest. People just don’t get up for elderly people / pregnant women / other people who need seats. Had a recent incident where someone occupie the priority seat from before Canary Wharf (where I got on) till Baker Street playing some video game while there were 3 fairly elderly ladies standing - others gave up their seats of course). A lady argued with me recently when I pointed out the no smoking sign literally below her feet at royal London hospital .... disgusting Interesting observation, from my commute passengers often tend to be good at giving up seats for the pregnant, elderly and disabled. There was a case the other day when someone didn't notice as he was on his phone but a fellow passenger brought him back to earth and he happily gave up his seat. Buses it seems to be a different case. In Barking there seems to be this interesting trend developing among some of the elderly that they are entitled to get onto a bus first regardless and they shout at people who try to board before them claiming its impolite. That's led to quite a few standoffs along with who gets the priority seat on a bus. I agree 100% with this, not all elderly of course but some of them do think they’ve got entitlement from what I’ve experienced.
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Post by londonbuschannel on Mar 5, 2019 19:31:50 GMT
Agree. Has to be stopped somehow. Unfortunately things have taken a turn for the worse to be honest .... I nowadays hesitate in challenging anyone if they are in a group bigger than 3 (knife / acid in east London is rampant, there was an acid attack outside one of the pubs I go to in IoD). Courteousness has also disappeared to be honest. People just don’t get up for elderly people / pregnant women / other people who need seats. Had a recent incident where someone occupie the priority seat from before Canary Wharf (where I got on) till Baker Street playing some video game while there were 3 fairly elderly ladies standing - others gave up their seats of course). A lady argued with me recently when I pointed out the no smoking sign literally below her feet at royal London hospital .... disgusting Interesting observation, from my commute passengers often tend to be good at giving up seats for the pregnant, elderly and disabled. There was a case the other day when someone didn't notice as he was on his phone but a fellow passenger brought him back to earth and he happily gave up his seat. Buses it seems to be a different case. In Barking there seems to be this interesting trend developing among some of the elderly that they are entitled to get onto a bus first regardless and they shout at people who try to board before them claiming its impolite. That's led to quite a few standoffs along with who gets the priority seat on a bus. In Dagenham (mostly) it seems to be the other way around. During the school rush home you can see elderly people being pushed out of the way by schoolkids who have no remorse. I am lucky to know a few people who have some decency and always put other people first.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 20:08:26 GMT
I don’t blame you. Some passengers think they are entitled to freebies. Luckily some passengers came to the rescue with the driver yesterday. That's the culture that has developed in London over recent years. Drivers being spat at should be reported to the police, disgusting behaviour. We are provided with spit kits to collect DNA evidence, but I just think what's the point. They're not going to catch him anyway, as if I do a Code Red, he'll be long gone by the time the police arrive, and I'll just be inconveniencing everyone else on the bus, who all have places to be as well.
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Post by sid on Mar 5, 2019 21:07:53 GMT
That's the culture that has developed in London over recent years. Drivers being spat at should be reported to the police, disgusting behaviour. We are provided with spit kits to collect DNA evidence, but I just think what's the point. They're not going to catch him anyway, as if I do a Code Red, he'll be long gone by the time the police arrive, and I'll just be inconveniencing everyone else on the bus, who all have places to be as well. It could be reported at the end of the journey and with a swab kit the filthy **** is banged to rights.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 6:58:01 GMT
We are provided with spit kits to collect DNA evidence, but I just think what's the point. They're not going to catch him anyway, as if I do a Code Red, he'll be long gone by the time the police arrive, and I'll just be inconveniencing everyone else on the bus, who all have places to be as well. It could be reported at the end of the journey and with a swab kit the filthy **** is banged to rights. I was changing over so just thought it's not worth it.
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Post by rambo on Mar 7, 2019 20:10:50 GMT
Buses are a free for all, fare evasion rife, and TFL are useless.
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Post by Pilot on Mar 7, 2019 21:36:51 GMT
Buses are a free for all, fare evasion rife, and TFL are useless. Unfortunately yes, bus drivers have no rights to do anything about it, ibus won't care, technically you should write emergency fare ticket, but which driver will do that...ever? Especially when you know the passenger is taking a mick. There should be some kind of scare tactic, CCTV in front of driver cab pointing where people enter and if someone doesn't pay click button and it gives a printout or something so that person gets reported to police? Lololol who have no time for that so yeah you're right we're lost...gg
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Post by rambo on Mar 8, 2019 21:30:49 GMT
Buses are a free for all, fare evasion rife, and TFL are useless. Unfortunately yes, bus drivers have no rights to do anything about it, ibus won't care, technically you should write emergency fare ticket, but which driver will do that...ever? Especially when you know the passenger is taking a mick. There should be some kind of scare tactic, CCTV in front of driver cab pointing where people enter and if someone doesn't pay click button and it gives a printout or something so that person gets reported to police? Lololol who have no time for that so yeah you're right we're lost...gg If I was in charge.......... IBUS announcement; 'ladies and gentlemen, this bus is being held here until the police arrive due to a non paying passenger, sorry for the delay'. Scumbags will soon learn that they have to pay or the bus won't move.
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Post by Pilot on Mar 8, 2019 21:36:07 GMT
Unfortunately yes, bus drivers have no rights to do anything about it, ibus won't care, technically you should write emergency fare ticket, but which driver will do that...ever? Especially when you know the passenger is taking a mick. There should be some kind of scare tactic, CCTV in front of driver cab pointing where people enter and if someone doesn't pay click button and it gives a printout or something so that person gets reported to police? Lololol who have no time for that so yeah you're right we're lost...gg If I was in charge.......... IBUS announcement; 'ladies and gentlemen, this bus is being held here until the police arrive due to a non paying passenger, sorry for the delay'. Scumbags will soon learn that they have to pay or the bus won't move. Yeah but police don't have time for that...besides if that was happening companies would hire actors do to this on purpose so the specific routes lose mileage and then have a better shot at winning route...but that's just going too far out with this lol.
Police barely respond to incidents in general like a person who refuses to leave a bus at the last stop (some people do it because they don't have home, some do it because they are lost and refuse to leave the bus unless you take them somewhere with your bus and so on)...police takes 1 hour at least to respond unless it's some major fight and even then 15-20 minutes so yeah...
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Post by sid on Mar 8, 2019 22:27:39 GMT
Unfortunately yes, bus drivers have no rights to do anything about it, ibus won't care, technically you should write emergency fare ticket, but which driver will do that...ever? Especially when you know the passenger is taking a mick. There should be some kind of scare tactic, CCTV in front of driver cab pointing where people enter and if someone doesn't pay click button and it gives a printout or something so that person gets reported to police? Lololol who have no time for that so yeah you're right we're lost...gg If I was in charge.......... IBUS announcement; 'ladies and gentlemen, this bus is being held here until the police arrive due to a non paying passenger, sorry for the delay'. Scumbags will soon learn that they have to pay or the bus won't move. And the bus would still be sat there hours later waiting for the police to arrive.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 8, 2019 23:47:37 GMT
If I was in charge.......... IBUS announcement; 'ladies and gentlemen, this bus is being held here until the police arrive due to a non paying passenger, sorry for the delay'. Scumbags will soon learn that they have to pay or the bus won't move. And the bus would still be sat there hours later waiting for the police to arrive. I've seen it work on numerous occasions where the driver has either turned the engine off or threatened to call the police so personally, all drivers should do it rather than turning a blind eye.
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