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Post by galwhv69 on May 11, 2019 19:20:36 GMT
I felt for David Beckham when I read this in the Mail today but at least the truth is finally out and all the rumours can be put to bed now Deliveroo have sold the Arriva operations to Stagecoach due to the engineers failing to keep the LT's & HA's in working order, leading to fines from TFL due to missed trips. Attachment DeletedEdit:I've heard that National Express are trying to take over with a leaked photo of the official logo Attachment Deleted
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Post by John tuthill on May 11, 2019 19:35:18 GMT
I felt for David Beckham when I read this in the Mail today but at least the truth is finally out and all the rumours can be put to bed now Has he put on weight or using a lousy tailor?
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Post by LT 20181 on May 12, 2019 5:54:18 GMT
Any more news or have police ordered a media blackout to prevent enthusiast riots depending on who has bought Arriva? A reliable source has given me an artists impression of the new logo Don't care about the police knocking on my door anytime soon! Well the merger with Asda has been blocked, so this could be another one of their strategies of business expansion and growth
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Post by ServerKing on May 12, 2019 8:21:44 GMT
A reliable source has given me an artists impression of the new logo Don't care about the police knocking on my door anytime soon! Well the merger with Asda has been blocked, so this could be another one of their strategies of business expansion and growth True. According to news sources, they are determined to see this one through and Deliveroo relinquish ownership
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Post by galwhv69 on May 12, 2019 12:10:48 GMT
Well the merger with Asda has been blocked, so this could be another one of their strategies of business expansion and growth True. According to news sources, they are determined to see this one through and Deliveroo relinquish ownership No NCA officers were at my house ...yet I believe Google are contacting DB about buying the company Attachment Deleted
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Post by galwhv69 on May 12, 2019 12:31:23 GMT
Well the merger with Asda has been blocked, so this could be another one of their strategies of business expansion and growth True. According to news sources, they are determined to see this one through and Deliveroo relinquish ownership I have emailed Argos for a logo design, and they sent me this Attachment Deleted
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Post by SILENCED on May 18, 2019 17:30:51 GMT
Interesting snippet from the German press about the prospectus sent out to interested parties is that Arriva is seeking to operate outside Europe.
Interested parties who have registered an interest reportly include Transdev, Stagecoach, First, Keolis and Macquarie ... includes does not mean there are not others, report suggest there are other non-transport companies who have expressed an interest.
If Keolis where to be successful it would be ironic as it was Arrivas failed attempt at taking over Keolis that lead to them being taken over by DB
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Post by ServerKing on May 18, 2019 17:54:24 GMT
Interesting snippet from the German press about the prospectus sent out to interested parties is that Arriva is seeking to operate outside Europe. Interested parties who have registered an interest reportly include Transdev, Stagecoach, First, Keolis and Macquarie ... includes does not mean there are not others, report suggest there are other non-transport companies who have expressed an interest. If Keolis where to be successful it would be ironic as it was Arrivas failed attempt at taking over Keolis that lead to them being taken over by DB I wonder how they will sell it, and who will shout the loudest for it? I guess they want it looked after and invested in, so it has to be a transport group. Macquarie kept the seat warm for Stagecoach, but will that mean cheap, unpopular buses? Transdev / Keolis could buy but I doubt it. Heard now the price is closer to 3bn rather than 20... my friend who's on the 73's said someone closer to home is more likely (hint: they run the 294) but I guess we will have to wait and see. Sale won't complete until Theresa May steps down, so that's 10 years from now
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Post by SILENCED on May 18, 2019 18:07:05 GMT
Interesting snippet from the German press about the prospectus sent out to interested parties is that Arriva is seeking to operate outside Europe. Interested parties who have registered an interest reportly include Transdev, Stagecoach, First, Keolis and Macquarie ... includes does not mean there are not others, report suggest there are other non-transport companies who have expressed an interest. If Keolis where to be successful it would be ironic as it was Arrivas failed attempt at taking over Keolis that lead to them being taken over by DB I wonder how they will sell it, and who will shout the loudest for it? I guess they want it looked after and invested in, so it has to be a transport group. Macquarie kept the seat warm for Stagecoach, but will that mean cheap, unpopular buses? Transdev / Keolis could buy but I doubt it. Heard now the price is closer to 3bn rather than 20... my friend who's on the 73's said someone closer to home is more likely (hint: they run the 294) but I guess we will have to wait and see. Sale won't complete until Theresa May steps down, so that's 10 years from now I would take anything you are hearing now with a pinch of salt as I highly doubt any party has of yet submitted their final bids. Not sure were you got €20b from ... highest figure I have seen quoted is €4.4b
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Post by ServerKing on May 18, 2019 18:33:42 GMT
I wonder how they will sell it, and who will shout the loudest for it? I guess they want it looked after and invested in, so it has to be a transport group. Macquarie kept the seat warm for Stagecoach, but will that mean cheap, unpopular buses? Transdev / Keolis could buy but I doubt it. Heard now the price is closer to 3bn rather than 20... my friend who's on the 73's said someone closer to home is more likely (hint: they run the 294) but I guess we will have to wait and see. Sale won't complete until Theresa May steps down, so that's 10 years from now I would take anything you are hearing now with a pinch of salt as I highly doubt any party has of yet submitted their final bids. Not sure were you got €20b from ... highest figure I have seen quoted is €4.4b Think the confusion was the overall debt of DB - €20bn, but Arriva is worth €3-4bn at most. I guess there's a lot of conjecture over the whole thing, yet all the London buses still keep their DB vinyls and none have disappeared yet, even new repaints of the 318s like EN13 still have the DB logo... Hopefully soon we'll find out who it's whittled down to
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 18, 2019 21:53:46 GMT
Interesting snippet from the German press about the prospectus sent out to interested parties is that Arriva is seeking to operate outside Europe. Interested parties who have registered an interest reportly include Transdev, Stagecoach, First, Keolis and Macquarie ... includes does not mean there are not others, report suggest there are other non-transport companies who have expressed an interest. If Keolis where to be successful it would be ironic as it was Arrivas failed attempt at taking over Keolis that lead to them being taken over by DB It'll be interesting if Macquarie come back, they certainly didn't perform too well last time going by the low price Stagecoach got London back for.
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Post by SILENCED on May 19, 2019 8:22:03 GMT
Interesting snippet from the German press about the prospectus sent out to interested parties is that Arriva is seeking to operate outside Europe. Interested parties who have registered an interest reportly include Transdev, Stagecoach, First, Keolis and Macquarie ... includes does not mean there are not others, report suggest there are other non-transport companies who have expressed an interest. If Keolis where to be successful it would be ironic as it was Arrivas failed attempt at taking over Keolis that lead to them being taken over by DB It'll be interesting if Macquarie come back, they certainly didn't perform too well last time going by the low price Stagecoach got London back for. You would hope the difference this time would be that before they purchased a relatively small operation so in all honesty managed it too closely ... whereas Arriva are a much bigger entity so hopefully they would manage it more at an arms length and let the existing managment team do their job. Additionally you would hope that they have learnt from their previous mistakes.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 19, 2019 22:10:28 GMT
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Post by ServerKing on May 21, 2019 5:07:37 GMT
I think my mate on the 73 is correct and Stagecoach more likely. Meanwhile the DB vinyls are still on the buses... A non transport company might be seen as only wanting to strip out assets, and scatter the remains to the four winds... Stagecoach have had some international experience and they may want to consolidate rail ops after recent knockbacks from DfT. Getting Northern plus Overground would be good for their current portfolio, as well as overseas work, depending on if all of Arriva is sold
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 10:38:35 GMT
I think my mate on the 73 is correct and Stagecoach more likely. Meanwhile the DB vinyls are still on the buses... A non transport company might be seen as only wanting to strip out assets, and scatter the remains to the four winds... Stagecoach have had some international experience and they may want to consolidate rail ops after recent knockbacks from DfT. Getting Northern plus Overground would be good for their current portfolio, as well as overseas work, depending on if all of Arriva is sold My money is either on Keolis or Transdev, both have limited operations in the UK meaning they would clear the UK competition regulators with no problems. Their European operations could present a larger problem but I still think the sale would clear with fewer problems than Stagecoach would present. If Stagecoach won the bidding race I could see them having to divest most of the UK bus ops to avoid the competition regulator with only the rail ops being cleared in full.
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