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Post by paulsw2 on Jul 21, 2019 20:14:44 GMT
Here is another suggestion for the use of an A suffix I will use the 35 route as an example the 35A would be a mon-fri peak hour service between Camberwell Green and London Bridge this would assist the current overcrowding between Elephant and London Bridge. The A suffix would not be confusing as it would mean "peak hours only" and would technically still be running end to end journeys.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 20:18:33 GMT
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Post by rif153 on Jul 21, 2019 22:00:40 GMT
105 > 95A 363 > 63A 417 > 137A 432 > 2A 436 > 36A
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Post by ServerKing on Jul 21, 2019 22:01:04 GMT
I'd like Tower Transit to paint the S2 /488 buses yellow in a nod to the original East Lancs Darts that were on the route back in the day 242 > 22B like back in the day too
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Post by george on Jul 21, 2019 22:40:32 GMT
I know this is a fantasy thread but my view is that there is no need to bring the suffix lettering back.
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Post by COBO on Jul 21, 2019 22:42:32 GMT
I know this is a fantasy thread but my view is that there is no need to bring the suffix lettering back. Why not?
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Post by COBO on Jul 21, 2019 22:43:46 GMT
452 > 52A 414 > 14A 430 > 74A
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Post by george on Jul 21, 2019 22:51:44 GMT
I know this is a fantasy thread but my view is that there is no need to bring the suffix lettering back. Why not? Boring answer but simply because it's needlessness there's no problem with the current numbers being used. Will be a waste of money with new tiles and blinds having to be made.
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Post by route53 on Jul 21, 2019 23:21:14 GMT
Whilst it dosent necessarily matter there is what I call having a Crystal Palace or Richmond done to an area meaning in a short space of time an area looses most of its classic routes/number and gets all the higher numbered split off ends (2/49/63/137 replaced with 249/322/363/417/432) and 27/37/71/90 to 337/371/391/490/H37). Whislt many other areas loose long standing routes they still have some left like Lewisham loosing the 1 and 36 but still have the 21/47/54/75/89. Woolwich is probably one of the few areas in London to still have its long standing, well established bus route numbers, it still amazingly has the 51, 53, 54, 96, 99, 122, 161, 177, 178 & 180, even the 291 is the flip reversed 192 route, the only route that’s no longer there is the 272, which is now the 472, even then it’s just a faster, more direct version of the 272, the 472 just skips Abbey Wood & Plumstead High Street and now runs beyond Woolwich to North Greenwich. The 53 is an even rarer case in which a main surburban to city route is still the number for the outer section while the 453 is the inner section, other routes like the 2, 36, 63 etc are now numbers for the inner routes, with routes 432, 436 & 363 being the outer sections, the only other examples of this are routes 3, 18, 25 and 43, but none of these routes have been split......yet
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Post by vjaska on Jul 22, 2019 3:37:42 GMT
Whilst it dosent necessarily matter there is what I call having a Crystal Palace or Richmond done to an area meaning in a short space of time an area looses most of its classic routes/number and gets all the higher numbered split off ends (2/49/63/137 replaced with 249/322/363/417/432) and 27/37/71/90 to 337/371/391/490/H37). Whislt many other areas loose long standing routes they still have some left like Lewisham loosing the 1 and 36 but still have the 21/47/54/75/89. The 322 did not replace any traditional route in the Palace area - the 322 was a renumbering of the old 2 which was running at the time from Victoria to West Norwood, The Rosendale. It was renumbered to 322 and extended to Crystal Palace with the 2A or 2B renumbered to 2 which began operating in overlapping sections (Brixton to Crystal Palace & Marylebone to West Norwood) until the 432 was introduced.
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Post by sid on Jul 22, 2019 5:00:15 GMT
I know this is a fantasy thread but my view is that there is no need to bring the suffix lettering back. I would suggest that there was no need to have gotten rid of them in the first place, just TfL wasting money solving problems that don't actually exist like the daft idea of the 390 being renumbered 13.
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Post by londonbuses2018 on Jul 22, 2019 5:46:19 GMT
240a but running from Edgware to Warren Street (aka day N5) would follow the 240.
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Post by zebedee104 on Jul 22, 2019 6:15:19 GMT
I know this is a fantasy thread but my view is that there is no need to bring the suffix lettering back. Why not? Because passengers are inherently stupid, as a group (as opposed to some individuals within that group who know what they’re doing) They can’t cope with reading a destination properly for short workings, so how do you think they’d manage 12, 12A, 12B and god knows what else turning up? They’d see the number 12 and that’d be it. Far better for distinct numbers for each.
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Post by redexpress on Jul 22, 2019 6:23:27 GMT
I'd like Tower Transit to paint the S2 /488 buses yellow in a nod to the original East Lancs Darts that were on the route back in the day 242 > 22B like back in the day too 22A rather than 22B. The 22A used to run to Aldgate (and on to Wapping) - it was diverted to London Bridge after the 100 was introduced. The 22B was the Tottenham Court Road route.
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Post by sid on Jul 22, 2019 6:26:12 GMT
Because passengers are inherently stupid, as a group (as opposed to some individuals within that group who know what they’re doing) They can’t cope with reading a destination properly for short workings, so how do you think they’d manage 12, 12A, 12B and god knows what else turning up? They’d see the number 12 and that’d be it. Far better for distinct numbers for each. Well no passengers aren't inherently stupid,and there is a certain sense of irony in that claim, they are just not going to have the same knowledge of the bus network as the average enthusiast and indeed why should they? In Brighton for example there is a 5,5A and 5B which all work perfectly well.
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