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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 20:25:51 GMT
Introduction of newer vehicle models, the LT/NBFL no 2. Similar to current LT/NBFL possibly being fully electric. The advantage from my prospective of those vehicles was the open boarding aspect which is due to end in due course. For the routes that operate with them, I do indeed see logic behind that - boarding and alighting are completed faster. Without the shadow of a doubt the current routes being operated with them will continue to do so for at least 5 years in to the future. Then it'll be time for the LT/NBFL no 2 by 2024/2025 which will be a similar addition and electric operated. More changes/cutting are on the way with no doubt, clueless muppets sat in the office have no idea of the negative impacts the changes have on public. And finally, I hope from heart that a new mayor (Shaun Bailey) is elected in May, he may have a better knowledge and general experience to London Transport. Quick question my local route the 176 has a mixture of standard and NBFL vehicles, what is the reason for this operation? It would be simpler to convert to entire NBFL! Same factor is the N15 operation. Believe the N15 can't have a full LT allocation because it uses mainly ELT LT's and would cause issues with the morning run out for the 15, EL1,2 and 3. The night PVR is 23 which is hight for a night route, it was similar under Stagecoach being run from BW / BK.
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Post by rj131 on Dec 16, 2019 20:48:58 GMT
Introduction of newer vehicle models, the LT/NBFL no 2. Similar to current LT/NBFL possibly being fully electric. The advantage from my prospective of those vehicles was the open boarding aspect which is due to end in due course. For the routes that operate with them, I do indeed see logic behind that - boarding and alighting are completed faster. Without the shadow of a doubt the current routes being operated with them will continue to do so for at least 5 years in to the future. Then it'll be time for the LT/NBFL no 2 by 2024/2025 which will be a similar addition and electric operated. More changes/cutting are on the way with no doubt, clueless muppets sat in the office have no idea of the negative impacts the changes have on public. And finally, I hope from heart that a new mayor (Shaun Bailey) is elected in May, he may have a better knowledge and general experience to London Transport. Quick question my local route the 176 has a mixture of standard and NBFL vehicles, what is the reason for this operation? It would be simpler to convert to entire NBFL! Same factor is the N15 operation. Believe the N15 can't have a full LT allocation because it uses mainly ELT LT's and would cause issues with the morning run out for the 15, EL1,2 and 3. The night PVR is 23 which is hight for a night route, it was similar under Stagecoach being run from BW / BK. Only route where incredibly bizarrely the night PVR is greater than the daytime PVR!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 20:51:16 GMT
Believe the N15 can't have a full LT allocation because it uses mainly ELT LT's and would cause issues with the morning run out for the 15, EL1,2 and 3. The night PVR is 23 which is hight for a night route, it was similar under Stagecoach being run from BW / BK. Only route where incredibly bizarrely the night PVR is greater than the daytime PVR! In fairness the night route is considerably longer than the 15
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Post by M1104 on Dec 17, 2019 14:06:01 GMT
Some new buses at least will have their ISA switched off, one way or another.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Dec 19, 2019 17:41:26 GMT
Here's my (mainly forum) predictions for 2020
The 101s WVLs still wont have been refurbished
No LT routes will be converted back to conventional double deckers
The expansion of Abellio will continue with more gains in South London
Arriva DX will still be the worst garage in the world ever
Tower Transit, RATP and Abellio will all be rumoured to be selling up
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Post by 15002 on Dec 19, 2019 18:14:39 GMT
Here's my (mainly forum) predictions for 2020 The 101s WVLs still wont have been refurbished No LT routes will be converted back to conventional double deckers The expansion of Abellio will continue with more gains in South London Arriva DX will still be the worst garage in the world ever Tower Transit, RATP and Abellio will all be rumoured to be selling up Still find it funny how many people considered DX to be a decent/great garage, and BE/RR to be the worst East London garage and now it’s a role reversal
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Post by galwhv69 on Dec 19, 2019 18:21:25 GMT
The 37 will get slower and slower 😡 (If you can't tell, I'm on a 37 in a traffic jam so not in best mood ) (Don't take this fully seriously)
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Post by 10121ddo on Dec 19, 2019 18:26:48 GMT
Predictions.
1. The 357 will be back for a consultation about whether to hack at it or not... (rolls eyes). 2. More Regent Street / Oxford Street / City of London route cuts. (Possibly the 388 again...) 3. An all-round struggle to get good photos of buses with new LED blinds.
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 19, 2019 22:31:00 GMT
My guess would be a thinning out in Holborn/Aldwych later in the year due to planned remodeling and cost saving.
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Post by ServerKing on Dec 20, 2019 4:26:54 GMT
So no more smart blinds? Or was that a joke? I don’t think LED technology is going to save that much, they break easily and the destinations displayed look awful on some routes, they haven’t been able to effectively set it out like smart blinds the 97 for instance Chingford Stn. It looks off. I’m yet to see what the P5/C10 look like but the TFL display looked identical to the smart blinds set so I’d they’re like that then sure let’s have LED. But I don’t think some of the destinations on LEDs Smart Hybrids are clear, is there a difference in the LED technology on the Smart Hybrids compared to the C10/P5 batch? I don't know how much smart blinds cost but imagine LED must work out cheaper in the long run. Inserts are a pain to fit to smart blinds and would be much easier for garage transfers etc...
Personaly I think the technology is a point where its acceptable and will only get better in time.
Blinds are made by just one company, a nice little earner as operators are forced to use this dead technology in the name of "tradition" Although seeing less banditry (away from route 184) it just makes the buses look scruffy with little to no information such as via points or other messages that could be shown from the blinds. Metroline have put festive messages into their LED blinds for their Herts services such as the 242, looked nice around Potters Bar the other day. Messages such as warnings of diversions would be good, even a "bus held" message for annoying waits to regulate the service (the amount of times I have boarded a 243 only to be sat by a stop while another one passes you and you're late for work is a joke)... It was posted in Buses mag how naff London services actually are, so it's not such a rosy outlook with no wifi, and a handful of buses with USB charging. I understand the reason for no better seating due to vandalism, but even branding (done by a professional outfit, not a TfL graduate on Word97) would be something to help things improve. To be honest, most see the bus as a last resort rather than a useful transport solution, and as speeds get slower, there's no way people will give up their cars to be cheek by jowl with someone with BO on a packed bus doing 15 mph while a pickpocket is after your latest Galaxy Note... I predict more of the same, as passenger numbers still fall, despite population going up. Too bland, even base model cars have more comfort, and in central London you can outpace buses on foot due to congestion caused by excessive minicabs and roadworks * LTs will continue to look tired, like the 258s before RATP rescued the route * Arriva London will not put any new vinyls on Tottenham's buses, or refurbish the LTs * New route numbers to make people forget useful routes like the 48 being destroyed or the 23 made pointless * No new funds to replace smart blinds with LED following TfL's recent head office move to Stratford * Awful branding scheme inflicted on an area that doesn't need it... * "Express" routes rendered useless by excessive traffic (see X26, X68, X140, 607) * Wrightbus wow people with a less offensive version of the Streelite, Tower Transit buy loads for their win of the 184 * Diesel buses will continue to be sold after realising the excessive costs of infrastructure for electric ones
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Post by LT 20181 on Dec 22, 2019 15:57:46 GMT
I have one prediction for 2020 (which hopefully comes true): The expansion of RATP’s Harrow (SO) garage to be complete and for the 223/398/H17 all to move in from RP, as initially planned ☺️
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 22, 2019 16:22:45 GMT
It all depends if Khan gets back in, not that he deserves it.
176 goes fully LT, which renders them useless to ride on hot summer days.
The first fare rise for TfL only modes for the first time in years.
If Shaun Bailey gets in, I won't be surprised if TfL finally receives central Gov subsidies to help fix the bus cuts which may also help rail franchises move to London Overground now that Boris is in power. It'd mean more regular fare rises, but at least a more useful transport system than we have currently.
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Post by george on Dec 22, 2019 16:26:59 GMT
It all depends if Khan gets back in, not that he deserves it. 176 goes fully LT, which renders them useless to ride on hot summer days. The first fare rise for TfL only modes for the first time in years. If Shaun Bailey gets in, I won't be surprised if TfL finally receives central Gov subsidies to help fix the bus cuts which may also help rail franchises move to London Overground now that Boris is in power. It'd mean more regular fare rises, but at least a more useful transport system than we have currently. Isn't there speculation that the LTs on the 176 will move to the 67?
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Post by kenmet on Dec 22, 2019 16:28:07 GMT
176 goes fully LT, which renders them useless to ride on hot summer days. If that were true they would all be empty on hot summer days and clearly that isn't the case. I was under the impression that LT's from the 176 were going to be used for the 67?
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Post by SILENCED on Dec 22, 2019 16:47:56 GMT
176 goes fully LT, which renders them useless to ride on hot summer days. If that were true they would all be empty on hot summer days and clearly that isn't the case. I was under the impression that LT's from the 176 were going to be used for the 67? Let's be honest, I don't think any of us know yet where the 67s LTs are coming from.
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