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Post by rj131 on Jan 10, 2020 21:30:33 GMT
I don't think you can really make the 108 any longer in this day and age, due to congestion in the Blackwall Tunnel. I would like more routes to connect East and South East London however. An additional route via the Blackwall Tunnel from Woolwich to Beckton perhaps. Also one via the Rotherhithe Tunnel, maybe Canada Water to Canary Wharf. Nothing above 2 tons allowed now through Rotherhithe tunnel so we would be running 6 seat buses! I went past the rotherhithe tunnel on Wednesday and wondered to myself why no bus routes go down it 😂😂
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Post by 700101 on Jan 12, 2020 20:11:59 GMT
It’s not a big idea, but there’s three things I would like to happen to the route: 1: Re-extend the 108 to Lower Sydenham to take the pressure off the 75 2: Reroute the 108 around the Blackheath area, so that it runs down the A102 as far as East Greenwich, then normal routing from there. 3: The southern section of the route which is the longer section should be double decked between North Greenwich and Lower Sydenham, while single deck journeys would obviously remain single decked Maybe ‘If’ the Bakerloo line extension takes place and stand space is required on Molesworth Street as I believe the current bus stand on Thurston Road will either be temporary or permanently closed the 108 could extend to Hither Green and the 225 could be extended to Catford using the full length of Hither Green Lane then right on to Brownhill Road to Catford to make space for the 108 at HGR or even the 129 could be extended to HGR (after its extended to Lewisham) as any extension to the 108 could make is unreliable
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Post by busaholic on Jan 13, 2020 0:12:45 GMT
It’s not a big idea, but there’s three things I would like to happen to the route: 1: Re-extend the 108 to Lower Sydenham to take the pressure off the 75 2: Reroute the 108 around the Blackheath area, so that it runs down the A102 as far as East Greenwich, then normal routing from there. 3: The southern section of the route which is the longer section should be double decked between North Greenwich and Lower Sydenham, while single deck journeys would obviously remain single decked Alternatively, extend the 75 or 202 to North Greenwich. Better a Croydon to NG route than a Stratford to Lower Sydenham, I'd suggest. Restores some old links too, whichever you chose.
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Post by YY13VKP on Jan 13, 2020 9:10:48 GMT
It’s not a big idea, but there’s three things I would like to happen to the route: 1: Re-extend the 108 to Lower Sydenham to take the pressure off the 75 2: Reroute the 108 around the Blackheath area, so that it runs down the A102 as far as East Greenwich, then normal routing from there. 3: The southern section of the route which is the longer section should be double decked between North Greenwich and Lower Sydenham, while single deck journeys would obviously remain single decked Alternatively, extend the 75 or 202 to North Greenwich. Better a Croydon to NG route than a Stratford to Lower Sydenham, I'd suggest. Restores some old links too, whichever you chose. As much as I’d love to see a direct link between Croydon and Greenwich it would just elongate the 75, it’s a long enough route as it is.
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Post by busaholic on Jan 13, 2020 22:41:23 GMT
Alternatively, extend the 75 or 202 to North Greenwich. Better a Croydon to NG route than a Stratford to Lower Sydenham, I'd suggest. Restores some old links too, whichever you chose. As much as I’d love to see a direct link between Croydon and Greenwich it would just elongate the 75, it’s a long enough route as it is. I know it would probably be regarded now as unacceptably long, but it did used to go through to Woolwich of course, admittedly not via Lewisham. The 54 manages from Woolwich to Elmers End and could, I feel, still make Croydon if TfL weren't so precious about protecting Tramlink from bus competition, to the detriment of the many people who used to use the through route from Beckenham and beyond. But then TfL would lose significant revenue.
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Post by VIN on Jan 13, 2020 23:56:48 GMT
It’s not a big idea, but there’s three things I would like to happen to the route: 1: Re-extend the 108 to Lower Sydenham to take the pressure off the 75 2: Reroute the 108 around the Blackheath area, so that it runs down the A102 as far as East Greenwich, then normal routing from there. 3: The southern section of the route which is the longer section should be double decked between North Greenwich and Lower Sydenham, while single deck journeys would obviously remain single decked Maybe ‘If’ the Bakerloo line extension takes place and stand space is required on Molesworth Street as I believe the current bus stand on Thurston Road will either be temporary or permanently closed the 108 could extend to Hither Green and the 225 could be extended to Catford using the full length of Hither Green Lane then right on to Brownhill Road to Catford to make space for the 108 at HGR or even the 129 could be extended to HGR (after its extended to Lewisham) as any extension to the 108 could make is unreliable I remember some time ago when there was the consultation about the new routing of the 108 over the Stratford side. I would absolutely second this. I suggested that an N108 service even, up to Hither Green station via the 225 route, would be a great idea. Adds no more than 5/6 minutes onto a journey, provides a night link via Hither Green Lane to Lewisham, and makes use of the insane stand time allocated to the route already. Maybe even throw in the evening's 108Ds to Hither Green too and make them a bi-directional service. Sure they'll overwork the corridor, but then again, why not?
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Post by stuckonthe486 on Jan 20, 2020 12:22:06 GMT
I reckon the 108Ds aren't long for this world now the 335 now effectively does that job as far as Blackheath.
Many years back, the 180 ran to Hither Green for a short while over the old 36 route - via Rushey Green and Sangley Road. I think something from Greenwich town centre to Hither Green via Hither Green Lane would be reasonably well used - all the buses around Hither Green and that Corbett Estate part of Catford are much in demand.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jan 24, 2020 16:38:54 GMT
I've got a better idea for the 108.
108 - Withdrawn between Greenwich Village (Millenium Leisure Park) and Lewisham.
338 - New route connecting North Greenwich and Peckham via old Route 108 to Royal Standard, however then taking Route 380 to Blackheath Station instead of the 108, then continuing to Lewisham before then taking Route 436 to New Cross (Maplas Road), then taking 171 to Brockley Station then taking Gelattly Road, Lausanne Road and then Route 436 again to Peckham Bus Station.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 24, 2020 16:44:34 GMT
I've got a better idea for the 108. 108 - Withdrawn between Greenwich Village (Millenium Leisure Park) and Lewisham. 338 - New route connecting North Greenwich and Peckham via old Route 108 to Royal Standard, however then taking Route 380 to Blackheath Station instead of the 108, then continuing to Lewisham before then taking Route 436 to New Cross (Maplas Road), then taking 171 to Brockley Station then taking Gelattly Road, Lausanne Road and then Route 436 again to Peckham Bus Station. The issue there is that you'd just truncate the 108 as soon as it crosses the river, there's a large amount of people who board the bus in East London and stay on through North Greenwich and the Millennium Leisure Park. I think the 108 as a route should just be left alone, just maybe some additional support provided along the southern section with a route which partially overlaps it. Your 338 idea seems good for that to run alongside the current 108 rather than being a replacement for it.
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Post by vjaska on Jan 24, 2020 20:54:38 GMT
I've got a better idea for the 108. 108 - Withdrawn between Greenwich Village (Millenium Leisure Park) and Lewisham. 338 - New route connecting North Greenwich and Peckham via old Route 108 to Royal Standard, however then taking Route 380 to Blackheath Station instead of the 108, then continuing to Lewisham before then taking Route 436 to New Cross (Maplas Road), then taking 171 to Brockley Station then taking Gelattly Road, Lausanne Road and then Route 436 again to Peckham Bus Station. Interesting idea - for me, I'd leave the 108 alone, call it a 437 and run it to Herne Hill via the 108 into Lewisham, then via the 436 to New Cross Fire Station and then via Lausanne Road, Evelina Road, Nunhead, Nunhead Lane Peckham Rye, then via the 37 to Herne Hill. The issue with this is a new stand needs to be built at Herne Hill but it could provide valuable assistance to both the 37 & 108 as well as opening up new links from Nunhead to other places
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Post by busaholic on Jan 24, 2020 21:17:47 GMT
I've got a better idea for the 108. 108 - Withdrawn between Greenwich Village (Millenium Leisure Park) and Lewisham. 338 - New route connecting North Greenwich and Peckham via old Route 108 to Royal Standard, however then taking Route 380 to Blackheath Station instead of the 108, then continuing to Lewisham before then taking Route 436 to New Cross (Maplas Road), then taking 171 to Brockley Station then taking Gelattly Road, Lausanne Road and then Route 436 again to Peckham Bus Station. Interesting idea - for me, I'd leave the 108 alone, call it a 437 and run it to Herne Hill via the 108 into Lewisham, then via the 436 to New Cross Fire Station and then via Lausanne Road, Evelina Road, Nunhead, Nunhead Lane Peckham Rye, then via the 37 to Herne Hill. The issue with this is a new stand needs to be built at Herne Hill but it could provide valuable assistance to both the 37 & 108 as well as opening up new links from Nunhead to other places Brixton even better: an alternative to the P4 between Lewisham and Brixton (at long last ) but, alas, too long a route in 2020. In any case, why change the 108 number?
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Post by vjaska on Jan 24, 2020 22:34:35 GMT
Interesting idea - for me, I'd leave the 108 alone, call it a 437 and run it to Herne Hill via the 108 into Lewisham, then via the 436 to New Cross Fire Station and then via Lausanne Road, Evelina Road, Nunhead, Nunhead Lane Peckham Rye, then via the 37 to Herne Hill. The issue with this is a new stand needs to be built at Herne Hill but it could provide valuable assistance to both the 37 & 108 as well as opening up new links from Nunhead to other places Brixton even better: an alternative to the P4 between Lewisham and Brixton (at long last ) but, alas, too long a route in 2020. In any case, why change the 108 number? Sorry, should make it clearer - the 437 is a seperate route, there would be no change to the 108 Brixton could be doable especially now the St Matthews one way system has extra bus priority as some space exists on Stockwell Park Walk for one more route
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Post by busaholic on Jan 24, 2020 23:10:53 GMT
Brixton even better: an alternative to the P4 between Lewisham and Brixton (at long last ) but, alas, too long a route in 2020. In any case, why change the 108 number? Sorry, should make it clearer - the 437 is a seperate route, there would be no change to the 108 Brixton could be doable especially now the St Matthews one way system has extra bus priority as some space exists on Stockwell Park Walk for one more route Bring it on!
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Post by ServerKing on Jan 25, 2020 4:27:15 GMT
It seems as if it might be a lot easier to introduce a new route from North Greenwich to Lower Sydenham via the 108. I suggest this because journeys from Stratford are already long as it is and the last thing you need to do is extend that route any further in either direction. From Stratford, the route could be extended through Bow to Clapton to take pressure off the 308 and 425
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Post by mr24 on Jan 29, 2020 17:53:00 GMT
This is not really to do with the original suggestion of the post, but the Hydrogen buses could be really great on the 108. Obviously it is never going to happen but it could be a good idea.
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