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Post by rif153 on Feb 15, 2024 18:01:53 GMT
He will say that anyone opposing the new names is a neo-nazi, racist person I wouldn’t have minded if the names made sense but when you have monumental failures on a key tube line (for which the responsibility lies on his doorstep) people have every right to be angry I also have an issue with the number of colours. Admittedly I am not great with distinguishing colours - 6 more is making it extremely difficult to figure out which is which There is lots of mud being thrown on social media from those more to the left / woke aware accusing anyone who disagrees about the new names as being right wing racists. They always have to get on their high horse don't they. Imagine the backlash if they tried calling one 'The Churchill Line'.
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Post by matthieu1221 on Feb 15, 2024 18:20:56 GMT
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Post by COBO on Feb 15, 2024 18:33:50 GMT
I bet some people are going to say that the Overground names are all woke 😂
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Post by YY13VKP on Feb 15, 2024 18:56:58 GMT
Absolutely pointless exercise.
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Post by rift on Feb 15, 2024 19:01:18 GMT
What I find funny about the Windrush line is despite them claiming to celebrate the Caribbean community, it doesn’t even stop in Brixton, and Peckham and Dalston are known for their African communities rather than West Indian. The funniest point on that page has to be them mentioning Croydon, where a lot of the community was dumped there by Lambeth in the 2000s.
This whole gesture is so performative and so many of us in the community have been saying they want proper change instead of attempting to appease us with this.
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Post by buspete on Feb 15, 2024 19:24:49 GMT
If anyone has stood high up on the platform at Peckham Rye will know why it is called the Windrush Line!
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 15, 2024 19:30:21 GMT
I bet some people are going to say that the Overground names are all woke 😂 What, you mean they were invented by Black Americans in the 1930s?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 15, 2024 22:57:15 GMT
I think despite the fact it's gone down like a Lead Balloon, this looks to be something TfL are pressing on with regardless. So while the initial part of actually naming the lines has now been completed, the next stage will be executing this.
To what scale will stations be rebranded? Will signs all over the network be changed or will they be left as 'London Overground'? Will platform announcements also be changed or will these also be left as London Overground? Many Overground only stations are themed across the colour Orange so will be interesting to see how all this gets tackled. I imagine the 710s will have all their digital adverts updated with the information on the renaming but the publicity will have to be key in this case.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 15, 2024 23:15:19 GMT
I thought I had overslept this morning and woke up on April the 1st. Honestly what was the point? All just a PR stunt for the Mayor. Nothing wrong with GOBLIN, North London and East London lines. I really hope these names will only be used on maps and not on announcements as they just sound a mouthful and nothing like traditional tube line names. As soon as I saw this nonsense just see it is nothing but Khan being a pathetic little prick pushing his left wing snowflake agenda. End of the days the majority of these lines renaming is full of poo and bears nothing to do with the line. Khan clearly had the final say in the name decisions after all he has to attempt to do something like Boris who had come up with Elizabeth line. If you were going to come up with things related to the line, you could have used Brunel line for the ex East London line from the Thames Tunnels which imo is a fuc###g insult to NOT use Brunel at all. But I guess maybe because he does not fit the woke agenda bill and is not woman or a minority. The fact you have www.ltmuseum.co.uk/blog/brief-history-thames-tunnel-and-east-london-line#:~:text=In%201825%2C%20French%20engineer%20Marc,wasn't%20completed%20until%201843. and even when you are at the station before showing the history of it is a joke. Khan you are nothing but a pathetic divisive little smirking weasel
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 15, 2024 23:17:49 GMT
The Suffragette Line is such a mouthful and not really approachable spelling wise. I appreciate the rationale but this does not feel like the right choice The Mildmay Line is a nice name but the reasoning feels geographically off, for such a long route it feels like it only reflects one small section of the line. The Liberty Line is probably the best of the bunch The other 3 are not the best but also not the worst Mildmay even worst that Mildmay Park station closed donkey years ago. Suffragette line, is just nothing but a laughing stock. Liberty line? Really?? Only thing people would think of is Taking f**king Liberties. Or that it is to do with Liberty shopping mall in Romford
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Post by WH241 on Feb 15, 2024 23:19:10 GMT
I think despite the fact it's gone down like a Lead Balloon, this looks to be something TfL are pressing on with regardless. So while the initial part of actually naming the lines has now been completed, the next stage will be executing this. To what scale will stations be rebranded? Will signs all over the network be changed or will they be left as 'London Overground'? Will platform announcements also be changed or will these also be left as London Overground? Many Overground only stations are themed across the colour Orange so will be interesting to see how all this gets tackled. I imagine the 710s will have all their digital adverts updated with the information on the renaming but the publicity will have to be key in this case. From some of the signage I spotted on the news I think London Overground will be retained as part of the new names. Do trains currently work across different lines? For example the East London stock used on the Richmond line? How will this be managed if the trains carry the new names and maps? Also be interesting when there are special workings during engineering works.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 15, 2024 23:20:27 GMT
I like the names. All of them have significant meaning to London and its communities. Of course you would. As it is pushing you idol Khan's radical left wing agenda and has f##k all to do with the people that use it on a daily basis. Khan could call it the muppet line and you would be lapping it up
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 15, 2024 23:23:40 GMT
I think despite the fact it's gone down like a Lead Balloon, this looks to be something TfL are pressing on with regardless. So while the initial part of actually naming the lines has now been completed, the next stage will be executing this. To what scale will stations be rebranded? Will signs all over the network be changed or will they be left as 'London Overground'? Will platform announcements also be changed or will these also be left as London Overground? Many Overground only stations are themed across the colour Orange so will be interesting to see how all this gets tackled. I imagine the 710s will have all their digital adverts updated with the information on the renaming but the publicity will have to be key in this case. The way I read it and understood it from the newspaper reports is that Overground becomes the overall brand and then the new names become sub-brands. Similar to how the Underground operates. So that should see update platform signage, audio announcements and maps. But the trains/staff uniforms etc should all remain the same.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 15, 2024 23:30:32 GMT
Apologies in advance to those who wanted/expected names of royals, that's truly done and dusted. Lizzy will be the last one, and even then I still call it Crossrail. There'll always be a disagreement over the names but what I find the most a shame is that the Overground no longer sticks out as a very visible orbital loop around London. It was bound to happen with the renaming but it's still a bit sad (especially how the colors are quite dreary and dark, even more so as they are two parallel lines rather than a solid line). Regarding the Mildmay Line, it really could've been either the ELL or NLL given that they both pass via Mildmay Park (thanks bus curtailment point for making me know where that is!). It all lacks a bit of consistency is my only complaint. Mildmay is quite nice and probably my favorite. It's geographically related but still has significance (apparently -- anyway the everyday commuter won't care about that part). I'm sure similar names could've been found along those lines for the rest of the lines yet still relating to the themes they wanted. I was never a fan of Elizabeth line, especially as the Queen was still alive then, made no sense. I still refer to it as TfL Rail or Crossrail.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 15, 2024 23:37:37 GMT
From this video: the overground brand will still be there whether on diagrams and announcements. So bar the maps even more of a waste of money 😂 never thought in my life I would agree with Susan Hall but I'm surprised he didn't bother with a Sadiq Line it's ridiculous just glad most people left & right agree . Someone needs to do a Freedom of Information over all this nonsense and also to find the other names that were selected and were dumped and why Sad!ck head has so much power to just bulldose his way in this manor.
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