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Post by greenboy on Jan 20, 2022 13:48:33 GMT
This is more of a station upgrade fantasy for Clapham Common and Clapham North Stations: Have both station walls from each station fully excavated¹ back considerable distances to allow for new tunneling, tracks and platforms. The present island platform could then be equally extended both sides (filling up both tracks) to the new platforms, effectively giving the Claphams more of a spacious platform area along the lines of stations like Nine Elms and Hatton Cross on the respective Northern and Piccadilly Line extensions. This modification would allow the Claphams to maintain their existing entrances to their platforms. However the stairwells to the platform could be widen so as to install escalators on both sides...effectively making Clapham North (if my memory serves me correct) stepless entrance all the way from street level. As Clapham Common and Clapham North are neighbouring stations the new tunnels could continue all the way through between the two stations (as opposed to merging back to the existing tunnel only to branch off again). ¹ - barring in mind issues such as the vent grills on Clapham North's southbound station walls Or just have one station for northbound trains only and the other for southbound only and fence off the platforms where non stopping trains pass through? Not ideal but in the current financial situation..........
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Post by vjaska on Jan 20, 2022 14:39:45 GMT
This is more of a station upgrade fantasy for Clapham Common and Clapham North Stations: Have both station walls from each station fully excavated¹ back considerable distances to allow for new tunneling, tracks and platforms. The present island platform could then be equally extended both sides (filling up both tracks) to the new platforms, effectively giving the Claphams more of a spacious platform area along the lines of stations like Nine Elms and Hatton Cross on the respective Northern and Piccadilly Line extensions. This modification would allow the Claphams to maintain their existing entrances to their platforms. However the stairwells to the platform could be widen so as to install escalators on both sides...effectively making Clapham North (if my memory serves me correct) stepless entrance all the way from street level. As Clapham Common and Clapham North are neighbouring stations the new tunnels could continue all the way through between the two stations (as opposed to merging back to the existing tunnel only to branch off again). ¹ - barring in mind issues such as the vent grills on Clapham North's southbound station walls Or just have one station for northbound trains only and the other for southbound only and fence off the platforms where non stopping trains pass through? Not ideal but in the current financial situation.......... Spoken as someone who has used neither station before. Great advert that is in attracting people to use your service
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Post by greenboy on Jan 27, 2022 21:18:48 GMT
I'll put this on here as it's probably a bit far fetched.
The Goblin extended from Barking to Thamesmead and Abbey Wood and then via Slade Green and Crayford to Lee, replacing the Southeastern service that does that now, then via the normally freight only curve to Grove Park. From here Bromley North would be ideal but there is the age old problem of getting across the fast lines so it would have to be all stations to Orpington.
Obviously this would be chiefly for local journeys, anyone going from Orpington to Gospel Oak would get there quicker via Central London.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jun 5, 2022 15:58:47 GMT
Not 'fantasy' but not sure where else to put it. To save money cut Aldgate Metropolitan line trains to Moorgate, using platforms 3 and 4.
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 5, 2022 17:12:20 GMT
Not 'fantasy' but not sure where else to put it. To save money cut Aldgate Metropolitan line trains to Moorgate, using platforms 3 and 4. I don't think it would save very much, and it would weaken links with Liverpool Street main line. Platforms 3 and 4 at Moorgate are useful for bouncing back trains at times of disruption.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 5, 2022 17:49:44 GMT
Extend both the Northern and District Lines to Clapham Junction, the latter branching off after Sloane Square. With the absence of the proposed Crossrail 2 this would better help the London Underground cope with Clapham Junction's interchanging.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 5, 2022 19:04:22 GMT
Extend both the Northern and District Lines to Clapham Junction, the latter branching off after Sloane Square. With the absence of the proposed Crossrail 2 this would better help the London Underground cope with Clapham Junction interchanging. I’ve often thought both lines need to be extended much further into SW London. I would extend the District Line from Wimbledon to Sutton (with a dive under taking it under the mainline) before taking over the Sutton loop.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 5, 2022 20:35:28 GMT
Extend both the Northern and District Lines to Clapham Junction, the latter branching off after Sloane Square. With the absence of the proposed Crossrail 2 this would better help the London Underground cope with Clapham Junction interchanging. I’ve often thought both lines need to be extended much further into SW London. I would extend the District Line from Wimbledon to Sutton (with a dive under taking it under the mainline) before taking over the Sutton loop. I did think somewhat similar for Sutton in an earlier post but with the original plan of the Northern Line going there, perhaps by going back underground after Morden.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 5, 2022 22:42:37 GMT
I’ve often thought both lines need to be extended much further into SW London. I would extend the District Line from Wimbledon to Sutton (with a dive under taking it under the mainline) before taking over the Sutton loop. I did think somewhat similar for Sutton in an earlier post but with the original plan of the Northern Line going there, perhaps by going back underground after Morden. The Northern Line's depot beyond Morden Station almost reaches the Thameslink line near Morden South Station. I wonder if the tube could eventually take over the line from there to Sutton, especially as the current Thameslink service is quite indirect into Central London. A new station with direct interchange to the Tram at Morden Road could cover the Wimbledon-Morden section.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 6, 2022 1:50:22 GMT
I did think somewhat similar for Sutton in an earlier post but with the original plan of the Northern Line going there, perhaps by going back underground after Morden. The Northern Line's depot beyond Morden Station almost reaches the Thameslink line near Morden South Station. I wonder if the tube could eventually take over the line from there to Sutton, especially as the current Thameslink service is quite indirect into Central London. A new station with direct interchange to the Tram at Morden Road could cover the Wimbledon-Morden section. Yes the car park is in between the Northern Line's depot track ends and the Thameslink route.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 6, 2022 8:01:00 GMT
TFL looked at taking over the Sutton loop as one of three options for a Tramlink extension to Sutton. Whilst, unsurprisingly was the least popular option as it wouldn’t have provided the same benefits the South Wimbledon/Colliers Wood-Sutton links would but in an ideal world you could do that as well as the Wimbledon-Sutton route.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 6, 2022 8:10:36 GMT
TFL looked at taking over the Sutton loop as one of three options for a Tramlink extension to Sutton. Whilst, unsurprisingly was the least popular option as it wouldn’t have provided the same benefits the South Wimbledon/Colliers Wood-Sutton links would but in an ideal world you could do that as well as the Wimbledon-Sutton route. As it was going for the most expensive scheme got them nothing.
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 6, 2022 8:23:43 GMT
Extend both the Northern and District Lines to Clapham Junction, the latter branching off after Sloane Square. With the absence of the proposed Crossrail 2 this would better help the London Underground cope with Clapham Junction interchanging. I’ve often thought both lines need to be extended much further into SW London. I would extend the District Line from Wimbledon to Sutton (with a dive under taking it under the mainline) before taking over the Sutton loop. The Underground Electric Railways Company of London (UERL - forerunner of London Transport) wanted to extend the District Line to Sutton but this was opposed by the newly-amalgamated Southern Railway. As a compromise the UERL were allowed to extend the Northern Line to Morden and SR built the Sutton Loop.
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Post by kmkcheng on Jun 6, 2022 8:26:08 GMT
Not 'fantasy' but not sure where else to put it. To save money cut Aldgate Metropolitan line trains to Moorgate, using platforms 3 and 4. I don't think it would save very much, and it would weaken links with Liverpool Street main line. Platforms 3 and 4 at Moorgate are useful for bouncing back trains at times of disruption. Plus does it also reduce the capacity of the inner circle as it creates an extra conflicting move with the inner circle line which doesn’t occur at Aldgate
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Post by abellion on Jun 7, 2022 19:35:45 GMT
Extend both the Northern and District Lines to Clapham Junction, the latter branching off after Sloane Square. With the absence of the proposed Crossrail 2 this would better help the London Underground cope with Clapham Junction's interchanging. If Northern went to Clapham Junction and Wandsworth Town Centre with no stops in between that would be nice. Wandsworth is a major area that could do with a direct and fast underground link rather than having to go up to East Putney or Clapham Junction
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