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Post by northlondon83 on Feb 20, 2023 17:08:54 GMT
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Post by ibus246 on Feb 20, 2023 17:14:01 GMT
Like I said media friendly for the right reasons or is that white reasons? The last few words of your post is exactly what I'm eluding too - when Sarah Eveard went missing, she was one of two girls that went missing in the same week in the same part of Lambeth - the 2nd girl had next to no attention drawn on here - guess the skin colour of the other girl? What about the girl (Owami Davies - the student nurse) who went missing and was last seen in Croydon last summer (and was fortunately found) - she was black and had lots and lots and lots of media attention. The words “chip” and “shoulder” spring to mind.
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Post by enviroPB on Feb 20, 2023 17:40:11 GMT
The last few words of your post is exactly what I'm eluding too - when Sarah Eveard went missing, she was one of two girls that went missing in the same week in the same part of Lambeth - the 2nd girl had next to no attention drawn on here - guess the skin colour of the other girl? What about the girl (Owami Davies - the student nurse) who went missing and was last seen in Croydon last summer (and was fortunately found) - she was black and had lots and lots and lots of media attention. The words “chip” and “shoulder” spring to mind. She received media coverage a week after disappearing, despite concerns of her mental health that required more of a focus than the police actually gave. Then there's the fact that the Met encountered Owami somewhere in the Croydon region after her family reported her missing, but Essex police didn't upgrade her case as a missing person's so the whole ordeal could've been over quicker for all parties involved. Because she was found alive, there would be no lessons that the Met and Essex Police would acknowledge publicly; utter shame really as there were many failures to this specific case that ultimately boil down to racial bias.
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Post by WH241 on Feb 20, 2023 17:43:38 GMT
Avoided posting on this thread as it feels a bit morbid but well just say the media both print and TV just latch onto the a story until they get bored.
You see it with major events like the Turkey earthquake and the war in Ukraine.
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Post by northlondon83 on Feb 20, 2023 19:42:46 GMT
Avoided posting on this thread as it feels a bit morbid but well just say the media both print and TV just latch onto the a story until they get bored.
You see it with major events like the Turkey earthquake and the war in Ukraine.
Although this time the media coverage went way too far, surely stuff like the war in Ukraine is a really big event to report on? Just like how Brexit droned on for 4 years and Coronavirus for another 2. Mind you I think that there is also too much speculation around the war, especially Putin's health! There's also too much scaremongering especially from the Daily Express regarding whether Putin will use nuclear weapons, whether he will invade another country, start WW3 etc. All of this is designed to make people scared and unfortunately some people believe the scaremongering. There's too many articles saying that Putin's going to use nuclear weapons when that is unlikely considering the negative implications for Russia
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Post by vjaska on Feb 20, 2023 22:27:49 GMT
The last few words of your post is exactly what I'm eluding too - when Sarah Eveard went missing, she was one of two girls that went missing in the same week in the same part of Lambeth - the 2nd girl had next to no attention drawn on here - guess the skin colour of the other girl? What about the girl (Owami Davies - the student nurse) who went missing and was last seen in Croydon last summer (and was fortunately found) - she was black and had lots and lots and lots of media attention. The words “chip” and “shoulder” spring to mind. I don’t follow regarding your last sentence (aware of what chip on shoulder means but not the context in this instance) but if you must know, I’m of British white race so not sure how I’ve a chip on my shoulder in any case? Far too many presumptions on this forum of late!
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 21, 2023 3:57:38 GMT
Such a sad outcome, but I feared this from the beginning. In isolated areas, these things happen. She regularly went there with her dog and there must have been someone watching her movements for some time before the attack happened. The local police haven't covered themselves in glory by mentioning unnecessay details about the lady's menopause if somehow connected to a drink problem, as a way to do less to find her. Those poor kids who have lost their mum Absolutely nothing to suggest she was attacked. Whilst the police haven’t held themselves in the best of lights I do find myself questioning why there was so much focus on this woman. Dozens of women and girls go missing each week with a fraction of the coverage this woman got. Why is the detestable Kay Burley not recreating their final steps? This whole case is just another example of our selective media manipulating us. Ok. It just seems very unusual that a mortgage adviser who had just dropped her kids off to school, gone onto a Teams meeting whilst walking her dog on a familiar riverside walk would just end up in the river unless assaulted, medical event like stroke, seizure, cardiac arrest. Not too sure of the strength of the river flow unless she entered the river elsewhere before being caught in reeds / bushes further downstream. Police were searching a nearby caravan site at one point, but there's no point in speculating what none of us will ever know. The local force didn't help by making silly Tweets using Lego characters to show they were looking for her
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 21, 2023 8:52:38 GMT
Absolutely nothing to suggest she was attacked. Whilst the police haven’t held themselves in the best of lights I do find myself questioning why there was so much focus on this woman. Dozens of women and girls go missing each week with a fraction of the coverage this woman got. Why is the detestable Kay Burley not recreating their final steps? This whole case is just another example of our selective media manipulating us. Ok. It just seems very unusual that a mortgage adviser who had just dropped her kids off to school, gone onto a Teams meeting whilst walking her dog on a familiar riverside walk would just end up in the river unless assaulted, medical event like stroke, seizure, cardiac arrest. Not too sure of the strength of the river flow unless she entered the river elsewhere before being caught in reeds / bushes further downstream. Police were searching a nearby caravan site at one point, but there's no point in speculating what none of us will ever know. The local force didn't help by making silly Tweets using Lego characters to show they were looking for her Not at all, the police told the public that she was going through the menopause and drinking heavily. So there is a chance she was experiencing some pretty big hormonal changes and possibly experiencing depression or similar symptoms with it so it’s possible her brain was a mess. There is every possibility that she was walking the dog, saw the river and just decided to go for a swim, note that her belonging were neatly stacked nearby, then got into trouble. No foul play, no suspicious circumstances, just an unfortunate accident.
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Post by northlondon83 on Feb 21, 2023 10:35:23 GMT
Absolutely nothing to suggest she was attacked. Whilst the police haven’t held themselves in the best of lights I do find myself questioning why there was so much focus on this woman. Dozens of women and girls go missing each week with a fraction of the coverage this woman got. Why is the detestable Kay Burley not recreating their final steps? This whole case is just another example of our selective media manipulating us. Ok. It just seems very unusual that a mortgage adviser who had just dropped her kids off to school, gone onto a Teams meeting whilst walking her dog on a familiar riverside walk would just end up in the river unless assaulted, medical event like stroke, seizure, cardiac arrest. Not too sure of the strength of the river flow unless she entered the river elsewhere before being caught in reeds / bushes further downstream. Police were searching a nearby caravan site at one point, but there's no point in speculating what none of us will ever know. The local force didn't help by making silly Tweets using Lego characters to show they were looking for her There are some wild theories suggesting that her husband murdered her which I believe to be false. I don't think she was attacked, it's more likely to be an accidental death or suicide based on what the police revealed.
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Post by greenboy on Feb 21, 2023 11:24:18 GMT
Ok. It just seems very unusual that a mortgage adviser who had just dropped her kids off to school, gone onto a Teams meeting whilst walking her dog on a familiar riverside walk would just end up in the river unless assaulted, medical event like stroke, seizure, cardiac arrest. Not too sure of the strength of the river flow unless she entered the river elsewhere before being caught in reeds / bushes further downstream. Police were searching a nearby caravan site at one point, but there's no point in speculating what none of us will ever know. The local force didn't help by making silly Tweets using Lego characters to show they were looking for her There are some wild theories suggesting that her husband murdered her which I believe to be false. I don't think she was attacked, it's more likely to be an accidental death or suicide based on what the police revealed. The allegations made against Paul Ansell are ridiculous and malicious and I hope that the police are able to trace and prosecute those who posted them on social media. Sky News and ITV should also be held to account for some of their behaviour which was mentioned in the family speech. Although the exact details will probably never be known I don't think there is any doubt that Nicola went into the water of her own accord and that nobody else was involved. I'm still slightly baffled about the criticism of Lancashire Police, whilst there are things that probably could have been done differently with the benefit of hindsight I think they have done a pretty good job in the most difficult of circumstances.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 21, 2023 17:06:06 GMT
There are some wild theories suggesting that her husband murdered her which I believe to be false. I don't think she was attacked, it's more likely to be an accidental death or suicide based on what the police revealed. The allegations made against Paul Ansell are ridiculous and malicious and I hope that the police are able to trace and prosecute those who posted them on social media. Sky News and ITV should also be held to account for some of their behaviour which was mentioned in the family speech. Although the exact details will probably never be known I don't think there is any doubt that Nicola went into the water of her own accord and that nobody else was involved. I'm still slightly baffled about the criticism of Lancashire Police, whilst there are things that probably could have been done differently with the benefit of hindsight I think they have done a pretty good job in the most difficult of circumstances. If the media are to be held account, then it also applies to the police who have made obvious errors in this case. It can’t be one rule for one, one for another
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Post by northlondon83 on Feb 22, 2023 8:40:21 GMT
There are some wild theories suggesting that her husband murdered her which I believe to be false. I don't think she was attacked, it's more likely to be an accidental death or suicide based on what the police revealed. The allegations made against Paul Ansell are ridiculous and malicious and I hope that the police are able to trace and prosecute those who posted them on social media. Sky News and ITV should also be held to account for some of their behaviour which was mentioned in the family speech. Although the exact details will probably never be known I don't think there is any doubt that Nicola went into the water of her own accord and that nobody else was involved. I'm still slightly baffled about the criticism of Lancashire Police, whilst there are things that probably could have been done differently with the benefit of hindsight I think they have done a pretty good job in the most difficult of circumstances. if the gender roles were to be reversed, so if Paul was the missing person, firstly this would not be publicized as it is now, and secondly if there was media coverage no one would accuse Nicola of murdering Paul, so the fact that people thought that Paul was involved is ridiculous.
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Post by greenboy on Feb 22, 2023 8:51:42 GMT
The allegations made against Paul Ansell are ridiculous and malicious and I hope that the police are able to trace and prosecute those who posted them on social media. Sky News and ITV should also be held to account for some of their behaviour which was mentioned in the family speech. Although the exact details will probably never be known I don't think there is any doubt that Nicola went into the water of her own accord and that nobody else was involved. I'm still slightly baffled about the criticism of Lancashire Police, whilst there are things that probably could have been done differently with the benefit of hindsight I think they have done a pretty good job in the most difficult of circumstances. if the gender roles were to be reversed, so if Paul was the missing person, firstly this would not be publicized as it is now, and secondly if there was media coverage no one would accuse Nicola of murdering Paul, so the fact that people thought that Paul was involved is ridiculous. Yes if the gender roles were reversed there would probably have been nothing like as much coverage, by comparison a missing male in Oxfordshire got almost no publicity beyond the local area. I think it was just social media trolls making allegations about Paul and hopefully the police will investigate.
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Post by cardinal on Feb 22, 2023 13:26:26 GMT
What is interesting is the criticism of the police. They graded her high risk at the start and commenced the search of the river. It is tidal so currents change every 6 hours. That moves objects up and down. Dead bodies generally sink initially. Decomposing bodes surface when the trapped air contained makes the body float. That process can take a couple of weeks. Seems to be the police were spot on with their hypothesis from the get go. It was everyone else coming up with other theories and huge intrusion by the media and the public that made matters worse.
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 22, 2023 13:31:36 GMT
What is interesting is the criticism of the police. They graded her high risk at the start and commenced the search of the river. It is tidal so currents change every 6 hours. That moves objects up and down. Dead bodies generally sink initially. Decomposing bodes surface when the trapped air contained makes the body float. That process can take a couple of weeks. Seems to be the police were spot on with their hypothesis from the get go. It was everyone else coming up with other theories and huge intrusion by the media and the public that made matters worse. Then you have the team of divers who the family hired telling the world she was definitely not in the river and the police should stop wasting their time.
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