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Post by evergreenadam on Aug 20, 2023 9:35:37 GMT
Will be interesting to see if the school days only peak journeys on route H28 will be retained. The H28 departing Busch Corner can be crush loaded to the front windscreen in the morning peak towards Gillette Corner.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Aug 20, 2023 12:41:28 GMT
Rather convenient for RDTL to have this extension take place when the E3 is retendered; will provide ADHs aplenty to furnish the E1 post-extension.
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Post by londonbuses on Aug 20, 2023 13:01:46 GMT
I wonder if a good idea would be to replace the H28's school journey with a new school route, following the H28 from Bulls Bridge to Jersey Road, then straight down to the end of Jersey Road and along Syon Lane to Tesco.
The journey would leave Bulls Bridge 20 minutes later than the H28's current school journey, since the route would save 20 minutes by missing the last section of the H28, which would benefit students at the two schools on Syon Lane who could leave 20 minutes later.
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Post by Jack on Aug 20, 2023 13:36:56 GMT
I wonder if a good idea would be to replace the H28's school journey with a new school route, following the H28 from Bulls Bridge to Jersey Road, then straight down to the end of Jersey Road and along Syon Lane to Tesco. The journey would leave Bulls Bridge 20 minutes later than the H28's current school journey, since the route would save 20 minutes by missing the last section of the H28, which would benefit students at the two schools on Syon Lane who could leave 20 minutes later. I would imagine the proposed routing has been targetted where it has been deemed the main demand is for the schools catchment area. Bulls Bridge is about 4.8 miles out from Bolder Academy and the furthest distance a place at Bolder was offered in 2022 was 2.1 miles away from the school. Running it direct from Jesey Road to Tesco means other school connections closer to Osterley area would be lost Back to Covid, the VH28 used to run between Heston and Hounslow only. For a "round the houses" route, it does have quite a number of pressure points at certain times in the day
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Aug 22, 2023 9:11:36 GMT
TfL will be meeting with Hounslow’s Lead Transport Officer & Cabinet Member for Climate, Environment and Transport this Summer to brief them on proposals to restructure the bus network between Feltham, Hounslow and Brentford/Osterley. At this meeting, TfL will brief Hounslow Council on proposals to introduce a new school bus route, the 618, between Ivybridge Estate and Syon Lane and to extend the E1 bus route from Ealing Broadway to Osterley’s Tesco in early 2024. These changes will be subject to a public consultation, which will launch in early September. View Attachment With the Feltham one, I'm thinking that may be to with a link from Feltham Town Centre to Ashford Hospital, which is not current.
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Post by londonbuses on Aug 27, 2023 20:30:28 GMT
I wonder if the 481's contract termination has some relation to these changes as opposed to RATP using the break clause. Maybe something is planned for the route which will drastically change the routing or PVR?
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Post by evergreenadam on Aug 28, 2023 13:54:05 GMT
I wonder if the 481's contract termination has some relation to these changes as opposed to RATP using the break clause. Maybe something is planned for the route which will drastically change the routing or PVR? That would be interesting, the 481 has plants of scope for enhancement. What date is the termination of the contract scheduled for?
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Aug 28, 2023 14:10:49 GMT
I wonder if the 481's contract termination has some relation to these changes as opposed to RATP using the break clause. Maybe something is planned for the route which will drastically change the routing or PVR? That would be interesting, the 481 has plants of scope for enhancement. What date is the termination of the contract scheduled for? May iirc.
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Post by northlondon83 on Aug 28, 2023 16:45:39 GMT
That would be interesting, the 481 has plants of scope for enhancement. What date is the termination of the contract scheduled for? May iirc. Does that mean that it will be up for tender very soon
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Post by paulo on Aug 28, 2023 17:19:03 GMT
That would be interesting, the 481 has plants of scope for enhancement. What date is the termination of the contract scheduled for? May iirc. RATP refurbished 12 ADHs for the E1 renewal as the plan was always that it would run to Osterley. One has since died in a fire and the last two are now at V covering for defective earlier examples. I think the 481 May revert back to single deck to release the VHs elsewhere.
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Post by LK65EBO on Aug 28, 2023 17:20:35 GMT
RATP refurbished 12 ADHs for the E1 renewal as the plan was always that it would run to Osterley. One has since died in a fire and the last two are now at V covering for defective earlier examples. I think the 481 May revert back to single deck to release the VHs elsewhere. Can the VHs even be used on another contract?
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Post by TB123 on Aug 28, 2023 17:23:35 GMT
RATP refurbished 12 ADHs for the E1 renewal as the plan was always that it would run to Osterley. One has since died in a fire and the last two are now at V covering for defective earlier examples. I think the 481 May revert back to single deck to release the VHs elsewhere. Can the VHs even be used on another contract? Yes. They will still be within the age limit by 2030
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Aug 28, 2023 17:25:41 GMT
RATP refurbished 12 ADHs for the E1 renewal as the plan was always that it would run to Osterley. One has since died in a fire and the last two are now at V covering for defective earlier examples. I think the 481 May revert back to single deck to release the VHs elsewhere. I would honestly be extremely surprised to see the 481 revert to single deck operation. TfL specified double decks due to Turing House School opening on Hospital Bridge Road, and this is likely to continue even with two extras operated by TUK. It would be more expensive to retender it as a single deck route with peak DD extras than to leave the whole route using deckers. If the VHs are needed elsewhere, then either RDTL need to find/buy other hybrid or electric double decks, or lose the route. Don't forget that there are still a few of the H91's vehicles which remain unallocated and the E3 is also going to start a new contract around that time, so finding sufficient vehicles should be no hard task even if the 481 is retained with its existing VHs.
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 28, 2023 17:38:56 GMT
RATP refurbished 12 ADHs for the E1 renewal as the plan was always that it would run to Osterley. One has since died in a fire and the last two are now at V covering for defective earlier examples. I think the 481 May revert back to single deck to release the VHs elsewhere. I would honestly be extremely surprised to see the 481 revert to single deck operation. TfL specified double decks due to Turing House School opening on Hospital Bridge Road, and this is likely to continue even with two extras operated by TUK. It would be more expensive to retender it as a single deck route with peak DD extras than to leave the whole route using deckers. If the VHs are needed elsewhere, then either RDTL need to find/buy other hybrid or electric double decks, or lose the route. Don't forget that there are still a few of the H91's vehicles which remain unallocated and the E3 is also going to start a new contract around that time, so finding sufficient vehicles should be no hard task even if the 481 is retained with its existing VHs. Sometimes TFL re look at converting a route to SD. The H50 when it became the 350 did then went SD again when the routing was swapped with the U5.
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Post by northlondon83 on Aug 28, 2023 17:53:54 GMT
I would honestly be extremely surprised to see the 481 revert to single deck operation. TfL specified double decks due to Turing House School opening on Hospital Bridge Road, and this is likely to continue even with two extras operated by TUK. It would be more expensive to retender it as a single deck route with peak DD extras than to leave the whole route using deckers. If the VHs are needed elsewhere, then either RDTL need to find/buy other hybrid or electric double decks, or lose the route. Don't forget that there are still a few of the H91's vehicles which remain unallocated and the E3 is also going to start a new contract around that time, so finding sufficient vehicles should be no hard task even if the 481 is retained with its existing VHs. Sometimes TFL re look at converting a route to SD. The H50 when it became the 350 did then went SD again when the routing was swapped with the U5. I'm not sure but wasn't the 95 DD at some point
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