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Post by M1104 on Nov 20, 2019 11:29:14 GMT
Has the 159 definitely gone back to Marble Arch? I ask because all have got marble Arch on LVF but so far seen 2 blinded only for oxford circus and when I look at an eta for one going towards marble arch the prediction stops at oxford circus. Just gone past the Marble Arch stand and none there. It's been reported that the long term closure of Bridge Street only reopened last night, the relevant routes now back on line of route through Parliament Square. Perhaps because of that someone has assumed it's back to Marble Arch straight away and has reprogrammed the countdown displays accordingly.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 20, 2019 12:46:47 GMT
Thanks but why are all saying Marble Arch on the Ibus? If you then look on the ETA the buses don't seem to be tracking past Oxford Circus. When I was at Oxford Circus yesterday I still saw the 159s terminating at Oxford Circus, didn't think much of it until I read this thread. I know that it was reported on the internal grapevine from Abellio that the cut was due to be made permanent, however it was initially advertised as temporary. I wonder if this is another case of left hand not speaking to the right hand where someone at TfL didn't manage to get around to everyone that the 159 cut was due to be made permanent. I imagine despite the ultimate plan of the route being cut back to Circus it will still be scheduled to return to Marble Arch for the time being, especially as the 12 would need its stand space back at Oxford Circus...which I believe the 159 is using during this Westminster-related curtailment.
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Post by snowman on Nov 20, 2019 12:57:37 GMT
If you then look on the ETA the buses don't seem to be tracking past Oxford Circus. When I was at Oxford Circus yesterday I still saw the 159s terminating at Oxford Circus, didn't think much of it until I read this thread. I know that it was reported on the internal grapevine from Abellio that the cut was due to be made permanent, however it was initially advertised as temporary. I wonder if this is another case of left hand not speaking to the right hand where someone at TfL didn't manage to get around to everyone that the 159 cut was due to be made permanent. I imagine despite the ultimate plan of the route being cut back on Circus it will still be scheduled to return to Marble Arch for the time being, especially as the 12 would need its stand space back at Oxford Circus...which I believe the 159 is using during this Westminster-related curtailment. Seems logical that stand space is probably the primary factor I do wonder if the proposed stands at North Row (near Marble Arch) are interlinked, these would allow the 94 to be cut back thus freeing up the stands at Charles II Street (Piccadilly Circus) which means a route from south can be cut back from Oxford Circus area. Although one way system is wrong way round, so maybe a bus ending at Trafalgar Square could also be in mix for changing stands
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Post by rmz19 on Nov 20, 2019 13:50:34 GMT
I imagine despite the ultimate plan of the route being cut back on Circus it will still be scheduled to return to Marble Arch for the time being, especially as the 12 would need its stand space back at Oxford Circus...which I believe the 159 is using during this Westminster-related curtailment. I do wonder if the proposed stands at North Row (near Marble Arch) are interlinked, these would allow the 94 to be cut back thus freeing up the stands at Charles II Street (Piccadilly Circus) which means a route from south can be cut back from Oxford Circus area. Although one way system is wrong way round, so maybe a bus ending at Trafalgar Square could also be in mix for changing stands Isn't the 94 one of the four routes that will supposedly remain along the western section of Oxford Street? Judging by its busy nature it certainly should be.
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Post by george on Nov 20, 2019 13:52:27 GMT
I do wonder if the proposed stands at North Row (near Marble Arch) are interlinked, these would allow the 94 to be cut back thus freeing up the stands at Charles II Street (Piccadilly Circus) which means a route from south can be cut back from Oxford Circus area. Although one way system is wrong way round, so maybe a bus ending at Trafalgar Square could also be in mix for changing stands Isn't the 94 one of the four routes that will supposedly remain along the western section of Oxford Street? Judging by its busy nature it certainly should be. 100% should be but unfortunately TfL don't go by "Should be"
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 20, 2019 13:52:44 GMT
I do wonder if the proposed stands at North Row (near Marble Arch) are interlinked, these would allow the 94 to be cut back thus freeing up the stands at Charles II Street (Piccadilly Circus) which means a route from south can be cut back from Oxford Circus area. Although one way system is wrong way round, so maybe a bus ending at Trafalgar Square could also be in mix for changing stands Isn't the 94 one of the four routes that will supposedly remain along the western section of Oxford Street? Judging by its busy nature it certainly should be. I think at the moment it is an assumption due to it being converted to electric vehicles. Not aware of anything official, but happy to be proved wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 20:39:08 GMT
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Post by rif153 on Nov 21, 2019 7:57:45 GMT
I do wonder if the proposed stands at North Row (near Marble Arch) are interlinked, these would allow the 94 to be cut back thus freeing up the stands at Charles II Street (Piccadilly Circus) which means a route from south can be cut back from Oxford Circus area. Although one way system is wrong way round, so maybe a bus ending at Trafalgar Square could also be in mix for changing stands Isn't the 94 one of the four routes that will supposedly remain along the western section of Oxford Street? Judging by its busy nature it certainly should be. Well it should be because as you say its very well used along there but disgracefully, TfL want to hack it back to Marble Arch
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Post by rif153 on Nov 21, 2019 8:00:26 GMT
If you then look on the ETA the buses don't seem to be tracking past Oxford Circus. When I was at Oxford Circus yesterday I still saw the 159s terminating at Oxford Circus, didn't think much of it until I read this thread. I know that it was reported on the internal grapevine from Abellio that the cut was due to be made permanent, however it was initially advertised as temporary. I wonder if this is another case of left hand not speaking to the right hand where someone at TfL didn't manage to get around to everyone that the 159 cut was due to be made permanent. I imagine despite the ultimate plan of the route being cut back to Circus it will still be scheduled to return to Marble Arch for the time being, especially as the 12 would need its stand space back at Oxford Circus...which I believe the 159 is using during this Westminster-related curtailment. Here's what I don't get. There is no vacant stand space at Oxford Circus if the 159 is cutback, as the 159 is currently using the 12's stand. The stand at Harewood Place which used to be for the 55 has gone so that can't be used anymore, so where would be the 159 stand if it were cutback. The Conduit Street stand is vacant and a stones throw away from Oxford Circus but could be a little misleading when TfL said they would cut the 159 back to Oxford Circus.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 21, 2019 10:43:44 GMT
I imagine despite the ultimate plan of the route being cut back to Circus it will still be scheduled to return to Marble Arch for the time being, especially as the 12 would need its stand space back at Oxford Circus...which I believe the 159 is using during this Westminster-related curtailment. Here's what I don't get. There is no vacant stand space at Oxford Circus if the 159 is cutback, as the 159 is currently using the 12's stand. The stand at Harewood Place which used to be for the 55 has gone so that can't be used anymore, so where would be the 159 stand if it were cutback. The Conduit Street stand is vacant and a stones throw away from Oxford Circus but could be a little misleading when TfL said they would cut the 159 back to Oxford Circus. Nothing actually replaced the 137 when it was cut so that stand is free. However the left turn out is very tight, possibly too tight for LTs. The 22 was moved out at the earliest opportunity to stand at Henrietta Place. I imagine the 22 could probably be sent back there and the 159 given the Henrietta Place stand.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 21, 2019 12:07:48 GMT
The 159 “isn’t due” to return to Marble Arch untill this Saturday, November 23rd. Thanks but why are all saying Marble Arch on the Ibus? On the flip side the 12 are now running through to Oxford Circus but with the LVF still showing Whitehall
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 21, 2019 18:49:04 GMT
Here's what I don't get. There is no vacant stand space at Oxford Circus if the 159 is cutback, as the 159 is currently using the 12's stand. The stand at Harewood Place which used to be for the 55 has gone so that can't be used anymore, so where would be the 159 stand if it were cutback. The Conduit Street stand is vacant and a stones throw away from Oxford Circus but could be a little misleading when TfL said they would cut the 159 back to Oxford Circus. Nothing actually replaced the 137 when it was cut so that stand is free. However the left turn out is very tight, possibly too tight for LTs. The 22 was moved out at the earliest opportunity to stand at Henrietta Place. I imagine the 22 could probably be sent back there and the 159 given the Henrietta Place stand. Quoting myself, who knew Seems the 159s are using the old 137 stand on John Prince Street. The LTs manage to easily make the left turn out. As a result of all of this the 12s have now managed to reclaim the Cavendish Place stand and as already reported the 12s are making it there unlike what LVF says. Now it's very weird the 12 has been restored yet the 159 hasn't despite both were cut back as a result of the exact same set of roadworks.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 21, 2019 19:34:25 GMT
Nothing actually replaced the 137 when it was cut so that stand is free. However the left turn out is very tight, possibly too tight for LTs. The 22 was moved out at the earliest opportunity to stand at Henrietta Place. I imagine the 22 could probably be sent back there and the 159 given the Henrietta Place stand. Quoting myself, who knew Seems the 159s are using the old 137 stand on John Prince Street. The LTs manage to easily make the left turn out. As a result of all of this the 12s have now managed to reclaim the Cavendish Place stand and as already reported the 12s are making it there unlike what LVF says. Now it's very weird the 12 has been restored yet the 159 hasn't despite both were cut back as a result of the exact same set of roadworks.Anyone think TfL have sent the wrong info out on that one?
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Post by LK65EBO on Nov 23, 2019 16:51:16 GMT
TF for reliability... (Here it goes) Route 117: Was run pretty well Route 235: Run well but buses kept on being bunched together with curtailments often - service under Metroline much improved Route 290: Run fine Route 350: Run fine Route 481: Havent been on this Route 490: Run pretty well - haven't seen much problems on this route but due to the Feltham bridge works the traffic is terrible Route H20: Haven't been on this Route H25: Run quite well - I remember back then when the service was so bad that it actually appeared on the paper! Route H26: Worst out of all of them - for such a small route there was bunching at one point but extremely rare and buses were 90% of the time late Route H28: Haven't been on this route Route
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Post by YY13VKP on Nov 23, 2019 17:13:28 GMT
TF for reliability... (Here it goes) Route 117: Was run pretty well Route 235: Run well but buses kept on being bunched together with curtailments often - service under Metroline much improved Route 290: Run fine Route 350: Run fine Route 481: Havent been on this Route 490: Run pretty well - haven't seen much problems on this route but due to the Feltham bridge works the traffic is terrible Route H20: Haven't been on this Route H25: Run quite well - I remember back then when the service was so bad that it actually appeared on the paper! Route H26: Worst out of all of them - for such a small route there was bunching at one point but extremely rare and buses were 90% of the time late Route H28: Haven't been on this route Route A bit random?
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