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May 20, 2007 18:06:08 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2007 18:06:08 GMT
Well pointed out. Egg I'm surprised you missed this I suppose i could have added it, but i looked at it in the sense that metrobus are entirely seperate from LC/LG. Although they are part of the Go-Ahead Group, They have a seperate Head office (I hear you say so have Arriva London, The Shires and KT (Southern Counties! but hear me out). Metrobus are not what i'd call 'group governed' in the sense that Metrobus are free to do 'thier own thing' say in relation to vehicle orders etc, where Arriva have more control over how the individual units of its business' are run. Obviously if i did include Metrobus Go-Ahead would indeed be a close second and obviously when the 24 transfers over even more so. I don't follow your logic. Metro bus are a business unit of the Go Ahead Group in the same way that Arriva the Shires are which you have included so logically they should be included in the figures
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May 20, 2007 18:09:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2007 18:09:55 GMT
There is this subtle difference Egg pointed out though.
Go Ahead subsidiaries have much more freedom in branding and vehicle orders, whereas almost all Arriva companies are run like one big group, what with all this coorporate branding and vehicle transfers.
Anyhow, no need to be all serious about it...
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May 20, 2007 19:32:53 GMT
Post by gal06 on May 20, 2007 19:32:53 GMT
With ibus, wouldnt it make more sense to just have audio for main stops like trains stations and main bus stations rather than every stop? You could have every stop on the ibus going if a visually impaired passenger is on board.
When its gets to a station, you could just have ibus say: "This is Walthamstow Central, change here for London Underground Victoria Line, and National Rail services to Liverpool Street and Chingford. This bus is for Wood Green."
When a bus leaves a stop and before it displays the next, it could just have the number and current destination. "230 - Wood Green".
If the driver gets a call to turn short, he/she will beable to do this in conjunction with ibus.
"Please note, there is a change to this buses destination. This bus will terminate at Turnpike Lane Station." The screen would then show "230 - Turnpike Lane". This could be used as some sort of screensaver, likeon a mobile phone. - Gareth.
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May 21, 2007 17:25:27 GMT
Post by londonunited on May 21, 2007 17:25:27 GMT
Why do you like London United so much? Yes, why? It's all "Live Transdev, eat Transdev, sleep Transdev, drink London United" ;D ;D ;D You cant eat or drink bus companies(unless you make a cake with icing!) ;D but you can live them!!!
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May 21, 2007 18:09:32 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 21, 2007 18:09:32 GMT
Yes, why? It's all "Live Transdev, eat Transdev, sleep Transdev, drink London United" ;D ;D ;D You cant eat or drink bus companies(unless you make a cake with icing!) ;D but you can live them!!! Obviously you can't - I'm just using those phrases to show how most of your posts have been. Cake with icing - I take it you've seen the Skoda advert where they make a car-cake ;D
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May 25, 2007 17:56:30 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 25, 2007 17:56:30 GMT
Starting today, all the deckers at Tottenham fitted for iBus (which admittedly, isn't that many), are allocated to the 76. I had my "ordinary" bus subbed for one between rounders this morning. Apparently, the whole route will be converted by the end of next week, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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May 29, 2007 22:11:10 GMT
Post by Swadbus on May 29, 2007 22:11:10 GMT
GRRRRR! - One of my pet hates - The bus is not FOR Wood Green, it's TO Wood Green. Wood Green doesn't want the bus as a gift, it just happens to be going there! In the same way the picc line tell me it's a service FOR Uxbridge! GRRRRRR! - I hope it says "This is a Route 230, terminating at Wood Green". When its gets to a station, you could just have ibus say: "This is Walthamstow Central, change here for London Underground Victoria Line, and National Rail services to Liverpool Street and Chingford. This bus is for Wood Green." - Gareth.
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May 29, 2007 23:38:21 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 29, 2007 23:38:21 GMT
GRRRRR! - One of my pet hates - The bus is not FOR Wood Green, it's TO Wood Green. Wood Green doesn't want the bus as a gift, it just happens to be going there! In the same way the picc line tell me it's a service FOR Uxbridge! GRRRRRR! - I hope it says "This is a Route 230, terminating at Wood Green". Unless the bus is an RM or something special, then it could be considered a gift Slightly off topic - I hope the person they used for the announcements on iBus isn't the same person they used for the recent announcements on the Picc line - she's like " 'tis Arnos Grove" or ".....his is Turnpike Lane", it sounds like she got cut off or was stuffing her face full of doughnuts before she had that announcement recorded ;D ;D ROFL
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May 30, 2007 10:35:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 30, 2007 10:35:52 GMT
GRRRRR! - One of my pet hates - The bus is not FOR Wood Green, it's TO Wood Green. It's more grammatically correct to say FOR Wood Green.
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May 30, 2007 19:41:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 30, 2007 19:41:26 GMT
GRRRRR! - One of my pet hates - The bus is not FOR Wood Green, it's TO Wood Green. It's more grammatically correct to say FOR Wood Green. Of course they could just say 'this bus is GOING TO Wood Green', or 'this bus is HEADING FOR Wood Green', but I doubt they'll use these. Sorry for going off-topic again , but as I type this, on TV (Traffic Cops) there's a bunch of kids who have stolen a bus from outside a garage and there's a police station right opposite; the result being that they're being chased by the cops right now It's not in London before anyone gets excited ;D 3rd edit: it appears to be a large coach in Stagecoach livery, running riot through Cleethorpes.
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Jun 5, 2007 10:12:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2007 10:12:52 GMT
The loneliness of an iBus driver. With iBus you only get CentreComm and Band III over the radio when it directly concerns your route - you miss the contact! Also, the next stop announcement facility is still not working, and the integated PA system suffers shocking feedback.. perhaps the microphone next to the speaker is a problem.
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Jun 23, 2007 16:28:13 GMT
Post by Swadbus on Jun 23, 2007 16:28:13 GMT
Hi Guys. I've just got back this afternoon from Metroline's recruitment center in Wembley after completing my controllers ibus training in readiness for when we get it at Wood Green. It's an intensive two day course. It appears all bus operators officials will be sent for training at Metroline! I have to say, the system is extremely complicated to use (from a controllers point of view), however all things considered i think it will make a positive difference, that is, once we've got the hang of it! The big differences are: 1) Buses can be shown accurately on a street map of London. (the ibus name for this is GIS - Graphical Interface System) 2) Buses can recieve SMS texts from controllers instead of using radio calls, drivers then have to press a button to confirm they understand instructions sent SMS. 3) Code blue facility (to report non-urgent calls to centercomm), this will work similar to the band III currently, as centercomm will call you back at their convenience. Unlike code reds, Garage control centre's will NOT know if you go code blue as it won't appear on their ibus screens. 4) Drivers are GUARANTEED a response from a service controller when a call is requested, otherwise it stays on the screen, they cannot be deleted without a call! 5) When a driver goes code red, the exact location of the bus appears on the controllers ibus screen. As well as centercomm's screens. 6) Centercomm are able to play announcements onboard vehicles, (eg, please be aware of pickpockets in this area), however this facility is NOT available for use by service controllers, and is blocked out of garage control centre software. 7) The SMS system and GPS system are totally separate from the voice system. Therefore, if either SMS or voice go down, you won't (or at least shouldn't) lose all contact, and buses will still be able to be located on ibus screens. Also their are 2 backup systems available at all control center locations, just in case! 8) Their will be nearly double the transmitter numbers that their are now, making it far more likely calls will get through on first attempt. 9) After the rollout of the program is completed, on-street controllers are to be issued with PDA style devices showing a graphic representation of the route their are controlling whilst out on the road. 10) Drivers are able to play pre-programmed records to passengers, and the OBNSS (On board next stop system) will also scroll the message across too(eg, please use all available seats). The system isalso wired to to the PA system on the bus, and the radio microphone can be used to speak to passengers by the driver. buses with no PA system are to be retro-fitted with them. 11) If one of the ibus systems on board the vehicle fail, the bus is still able to be monitored, and the system will automatically report the fault for repair. 12) When on diversion, the OBNSS will announce this to passengers, and also the bus will still be able to be tracked on the map by GPS, and it's location sent direct to the control room. 13) Low bridge warnings are built into the system and alerts the driver to prevent bridge strikes. (However this doesn't work when on diversion yet, but will become live in the next few months), the mapping sytsem doesn't yet recognise one-way streets either (but this is also currently being addressed). 14) You should also be aware that the MDT (Mobile data terminal) on the buses are connected to the doors and can tell when the doors are open or if the vehicle is driving with the doors open. 15) If a bus leaves a stand early then an automatic generated system message is generated for the controller to follow up why the bus departed late. 16) All texts, calls, etc... are automatically logged. 17) Drivers are able to see the gap between themselves and the vehicle in front of them. The system can automatically tell them to speed up or slow down according to the headways. Interestingly, this option can be switched on and off on the MDT by the controllers in the control center depending on how the route controller wants to operate the route! So it would appear BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! ;D Regards, Stuart.
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Jun 23, 2007 17:33:30 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2007 17:33:30 GMT
Nice stuff, especially like point 17.
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Jun 25, 2007 10:40:26 GMT
Post by DLA 365 on Jun 25, 2007 10:40:26 GMT
So if the bus driver can see that the one in front of him is just a couple of minutes ahead of him, he would be able to speed up and tail him all the way to the destination (therefore the leader would be picking up all passengers, and the puncher gets none). Then the puncher would wait at the stop before the terminating point for 10 minutes (or whatever the frequency is) to make sure he is not done for early running and then amble in as though he is a good little boy I was on a 341 which was 20 minutes early yesterday. Not surprising since the driver was driving like a lunatic (skipping stops, opening the doors in the outer lane of the road instead of pulling into bus stops). What did he do? Pull up at the Clissold Park stop, switch off the engine and wait there for 8 minutes AND at Tottenham Police Station stop and sit there for 12 minutes What a great system this will be
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Jun 25, 2007 11:49:35 GMT
Post by Swadbus on Jun 25, 2007 11:49:35 GMT
I'm also informed that because the system is so accurate, it is possible for controllers to knock off drivers for early running using the system too! Stu.
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