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Post by ADH45258 on Jul 23, 2019 13:06:47 GMT
VW1286 G>HD - There is no way these are refurb floats, theres too many of them - 6 have now transferred, it has to be to do with some kind of movement of the batches, for whatever reason that is. Are any relevant routes affected by any LEBZ corridors? Perhaps only one of the two batchs are upgraded to euro6 so far
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Post by richard on Jul 23, 2019 13:16:10 GMT
It looks like both HT and PB VMHs will be going to G and PA and not UX than I originally thought Well the 607 is now at G not UX so why would the VMHs be going to UX? To replace the ex First TEs
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Post by richard on Jul 23, 2019 13:17:49 GMT
It looks like both HT and PB VMHs will be going to G and PA and not UX than I originally thought Why would they have gone to UX? It was always destined that some would go to PA and apparently now some are going to G as well. Besides these transfers are not to do with the VMHs, as TE15xx ones have been swapped at UX, and have gone to G in return for those 17xx TEs. I don't know the reasoning behind this, but there is probably a reason for it. To replace the ex First TEs
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Post by ADH45258 on Jul 23, 2019 13:21:07 GMT
It looks like both HT and PB VMHs will be going to G and PA and not UX than I originally thought Why would they have gone to UX? It was always destined that some would go to PA and apparently now some are going to G as well. Besides these transfers are not to do with the VMHs, as TE15xx ones have been swapped at UX, and have gone to G in return for those 17xx TEs. I don't know the reasoning behind this, but there is probably a reason for it. Note that not all of the VMHs will be used up by the 31, 90, 317 and 607, though the destination of the remaining examples may be dependent on tender results.
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Post by VWH1414 on Jul 23, 2019 14:25:25 GMT
VW1286 G>HD - There is no way these are refurb floats, theres too many of them - 6 have now transferred, it has to be to do with some kind of movement of the batches, for whatever reason that is. Are any relevant routes affected by any LEBZ corridors? Perhaps only one of the two batchs are upgraded to euro6 so far I was thinking of this earlier, as I believe the only VWs at HD that are Euro VI are VW1213 & VW1372 (Hence why they are the only 2 of the batch that originally transferred to HD that made it onto the 182 in recent months), obviously these are for the 186 as that is the HD using VWs, so there must be a LEBZ corridor coming into place somewhere along the route. I wonder what VWs the 81 will use now? Or will it use other vehicles possibly instead. Also: VW1285 G>HD
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Post by VWH1414 on Jul 23, 2019 14:38:33 GMT
Why would they have gone to UX? It was always destined that some would go to PA and apparently now some are going to G as well. Besides these transfers are not to do with the VMHs, as TE15xx ones have been swapped at UX, and have gone to G in return for those 17xx TEs. I don't know the reasoning behind this, but there is probably a reason for it. Note that not all of the VMHs will be used up by the 31, 90, 317 and 607, though the destination of the remaining examples may be dependent on tender results. A vast majority will be used up by the 31/90 (Roughly 34 needed in total for both routes), seemingly VMH2532-2560 are going to PA (5 more needed - so VMH2564-2569 potentially), VMH2561-2563 have gone to G, seemingly as top ups for the 607 which needed a few more VMHs on top of the 19 regs, leaving 7 VMHs (2570-2576) which could then be used at PB for the 317 or go to G for the 482 - though it would need 2 more having a PVR of 8 and also needing a spare. Then the remaining 19 reg VMHs (2577-2586) are obviously destined for the 607 anyway.
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Post by foxhat on Jul 23, 2019 15:18:27 GMT
DE1126 W > G DE1900 G > W
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Post by Frenzie on Jul 23, 2019 16:18:46 GMT
Note that not all of the VMHs will be used up by the 31, 90, 317 and 607, though the destination of the remaining examples may be dependent on tender results. A vast majority will be used up by the 31/90 (Roughly 34 needed in total for both routes), seemingly VMH2532-2560 are going to PA (5 more needed - so VMH2564-2569 potentially), VMH2561-2563 have gone to G, seemingly as top ups for the 607 which needed a few more VMHs on top of the 19 regs, leaving 7 VMHs (2570-2576) which could then be used at PB for the 317 or go to G for the 482 - though it would need 2 more having a PVR of 8 and also needing a spare. Then the remaining 19 reg VMHs (2577-2586) are obviously destined for the 607 anyway. Why did Metroline order extra VMHs?
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Post by COBO on Jul 23, 2019 16:35:28 GMT
Well the 607 is now at G not UX so why would the VMHs be going to UX? To replace the ex First TEs Surely Metroline would use something else to replace the Ex First TEs. The VMHs were needed to make 607 fully VMH.
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Post by COBO on Jul 23, 2019 16:36:56 GMT
A vast majority will be used up by the 31/90 (Roughly 34 needed in total for both routes), seemingly VMH2532-2560 are going to PA (5 more needed - so VMH2564-2569 potentially), VMH2561-2563 have gone to G, seemingly as top ups for the 607 which needed a few more VMHs on top of the 19 regs, leaving 7 VMHs (2570-2576) which could then be used at PB for the 317 or go to G for the 482 - though it would need 2 more having a PVR of 8 and also needing a spare. Then the remaining 19 reg VMHs (2577-2586) are obviously destined for the 607 anyway. Why did Metroline order extra VMHs? Because they were initially ordered for something else.
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Post by VMH2452 on Jul 23, 2019 16:52:06 GMT
A vast majority will be used up by the 31/90 (Roughly 34 needed in total for both routes), seemingly VMH2532-2560 are going to PA (5 more needed - so VMH2564-2569 potentially), VMH2561-2563 have gone to G, seemingly as top ups for the 607 which needed a few more VMHs on top of the 19 regs, leaving 7 VMHs (2570-2576) which could then be used at PB for the 317 or go to G for the 482 - though it would need 2 more having a PVR of 8 and also needing a spare. Then the remaining 19 reg VMHs (2577-2586) are obviously destined for the 607 anyway. Why did Metroline order extra VMHs? The LA68 VMHs were originally ordered for the 113 but the VMHs intended for the 31 were diverted to the 113 and then the LA68 VMHs diverted to 43 and 134 with the 31 using VWs instead.
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Post by busoccultation on Jul 23, 2019 16:59:51 GMT
I wonder what VWs the 81 will use now? Or will it use other vehicles possibly instead. From a reliable source:
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Post by richard on Jul 23, 2019 18:46:24 GMT
To replace the ex First TEs Surely Metroline would use something else to replace the Ex First TEs. The VMHs were needed to make 607 fully VMH. Well unless there are PVR cuts somewhere else the VMHs will be a good choice for UX
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Post by E279 on Jul 23, 2019 18:48:12 GMT
What’s the point in swapping 08s for 09 reg G and UX.
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Post by snowman on Jul 23, 2019 18:59:06 GMT
What’s the point in swapping 08s for 09 reg G and UX. It is to be consistent with future plans. More precisely so one batch is in right place for withdrawal. There is Uxbridge Road LEBZ coming later this year, and only buses that are getting upgraded (not those leaving before October 2020) should be in right place for upgrade to operate LEBZ routes.
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