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Post by greeny253 on Jul 22, 2009 20:46:23 GMT
Nu-Venture have modified one of their Carlyle-bodied Darts with a "more futuristic" front end. This really doesn't do it for me. I'll leave it to you guys to decide what you think about it Nu-Venture No.700 (RIB 7002)I'm thinking dog chasing a parked car.... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2009 14:42:46 GMT
Sorry Alex, but the one thing it is NOT is an RT type. I doubt if it is even ex London Transport. The give-away is the drivers hinged door and the high side-slide windows. RT type and similar aged London buses had a Routemaster style sliding drivers door and half drop winding windows at sides and front. One of the last 'hinged door types in London service was the STD class, some of which operated out of Luoghton garage on the 167 many years ago. However, my guess, and it is ONLY a guess if it is NOT an ex London vehicle, but is a Leyland PD2 Titan chassis (sorry john, NOT that sort of Titan, THIS is the real thing! ;D). The bodywork MAY be Charles Roe, but that could be in the realms of fantasy. ;D
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Post by john on Aug 23, 2009 2:03:46 GMT
Sorry Alex, but the one thing it is NOT is an RT type. I doubt if it is even ex London Transport. The give-away is the drivers hinged door and the high side-slide windows. RT type and similar aged London buses had a Routemaster style sliding drivers door and half drop winding windows at sides and front. One of the last 'hinged door types in London service was the STD class, some of which operated out of Luoghton garage on the 167 many years ago. However, my guess, and it is ONLY a guess if it is NOT an ex London vehicle, but is a Leyland PD2 Titan chassis (sorry john, NOT that sort of Titan, THIS is the real thing! ;D). The bodywork MAY be Charles Roe, but that could be in the realms of fantasy. ;D Haha, there's the generation thing coming up again ;D Never rode the PD2, but the B15 was great In all seriousness though, i do believe LT had a number of PD2's also. Although to confirm where and when they were operated, i need to do abit of book hunting, which i can't at this un-earthly time
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2009 12:03:36 GMT
Sorry Alex, but the one thing it is NOT is an RT type. I doubt if it is even ex London Transport. The give-away is the drivers hinged door and the high side-slide windows. RT type and similar aged London buses had a Routemaster style sliding drivers door and half drop winding windows at sides and front. One of the last 'hinged door types in London service was the STD class, some of which operated out of Luoghton garage on the 167 many years ago. However, my guess, and it is ONLY a guess if it is NOT an ex London vehicle, but is a Leyland PD2 Titan chassis (sorry john, NOT that sort of Titan, THIS is the real thing! ;D). The bodywork MAY be Charles Roe, but that could be in the realms of fantasy. ;D Haha, there's the generation thing coming up again ;D Never rode the PD2, but the B15 was great In all seriousness though, i do believe LT had a number of PD2's also. Although to confirm where and when they were operated, i need to do abit of book hunting, which i can't at this un-earthly time The STD class which saw service in London were indeed Leyland Titans. Pre war STD's were Titan TD4, and the post war STD class (including those at Loghton on the 167 and 20 were Titan PD1 models. No modifications were made to meet London 'needs', they were 'straight off the shelf', including no rear destination display (except a clip on route number in the rear window by the stairs).
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Post by john on Aug 23, 2009 14:17:18 GMT
The STD class which saw service in London were indeed Leyland Titans. Pre war STD's were Titan TD4, and the post war STD class (including those at Loghton on the 167 and 20 were Titan PD1 models. No modifications were made to meet London 'needs', they were 'straight off the shelf', including no rear destination display (except a clip on route number in the rear window by the stairs). I did have a thought earlier, i think U may have had some there, both in service and as learners. I recall seeing some in a photo on the 101, though i could be wrong
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2009 15:52:24 GMT
The STD class which saw service in London were indeed Leyland Titans. Pre war STD's were Titan TD4, and the post war STD class (including those at Loghton on the 167 and 20 were Titan PD1 models. No modifications were made to meet London 'needs', they were 'straight off the shelf', including no rear destination display (except a clip on route number in the rear window by the stairs). I did have a thought earlier, i think U may have had some there, both in service and as learners. I recall seeing some in a photo on the 101, though i could be wrong The 101 had double deck Guy (G class) with wartime utility bodywork until 1954 at Upton Park, then converted to RT. The 167 was STD operated until 1955 at Loughton, and also converted to RT type. Loughton at this time was also used to store about 50 brand new, unused and unlicensed RTL type, the last to be built. Both G and STD class remained around as trainers IIRC for a couple of years,especially at BK.
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Post by john on Aug 23, 2009 21:25:58 GMT
I did have a thought earlier, i think U may have had some there, both in service and as learners. I recall seeing some in a photo on the 101, though i could be wrong The 101 had double deck Guy (G class) with wartime utility bodywork until 1954 at Upton Park, then converted to RT. The 167 was STD operated until 1955 at Loughton, and also converted to RT type. Loughton at this time was also used to store about 50 brand new, unused and unlicensed RTL type, the last to be built. Both G and STD class remained around as trainers IIRC for a couple of years,especially at BK. After consulting the book i wanted to originally, i can confirm i was wrong lol. The 101, in the early years, was operated by Leyland Titans in the TD class. They also used LT's. Information sourced from "London's Suburban Buses, John. A. Gray, 1976, First Edition" ;D However, after trying to study some images, i would come to the conclusion that is indeed an STD (not the sexual type :
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2009 22:29:07 GMT
The 101 had double deck Guy (G class) with wartime utility bodywork until 1954 at Upton Park, then converted to RT. The 167 was STD operated until 1955 at Loughton, and also converted to RT type. Loughton at this time was also used to store about 50 brand new, unused and unlicensed RTL type, the last to be built. Both G and STD class remained around as trainers IIRC for a couple of years,especially at BK. After consulting the book i wanted to originally, i can confirm i was wrong lol. The 101, in the early years, was operated by Leyland Titans in the TD class. They also used LT's. Information sourced from "London's Suburban Buses, John. A. Gray, 1976, First Edition" ;D However, after trying to study some images, i would come to the conclusion that is indeed an STD (not the sexual type : Just to clarify, the 'TD class' were Leyland TD4 models, the London Transport class was STD. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by john on Aug 23, 2009 22:57:16 GMT
Just to clarify, the 'TD class' were Leyland TD4 models, the London Transport class was STD. ;D ;D ;D Actually, it was the STD's that were the TD4, while the TD's were TD1/2's www.countrybus.org/TDTitan/TD.html
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