iBus - What you think Jan 19, 2009 16:34:18 GMT
Post by bighat on Jan 19, 2009 16:34:18 GMT
Jan 19, 2009 15:43:04 GMT @steve517757 said:
Jan 19, 2009 14:15:01 GMT @bighat said:
Errr......where did I suggest that 'drunks' should take their car?
Perhaps they should either, drink less and be capable of meeting the criteria (and/or have sufficient funds for a mini-cab), or get one of their party to refrain for that evening and do the driving.
Works for me!
Is it a prerequisite of having an enjoyable 'social' evening that you HAVE to become so intoxicated that you become a danger to yourself and a nuisance to everyone around you?
You did not explicitly state that but people leave their cars at home knowing they can get bus home. If you ban them from using buses, they are more likely to drive in and drive out - thus a policy to increase drunken driving.
It is all right you getting on you moral horse saying things work for you, but just go out to any town centre on a Friday/Saturday evening - unfortunately not everyone shares your moral high ground.
I live in the opposite direction to most of my mates, so on the occasions I go out for a drink, ease of public transport links home is a big factor.
One of The Department of Transport s recommendations against drink driving is use public transport
What a strange outlook!
it's nothing to do with 'taking the moral high ground'.
It's down to the individual taking personal responsibility for his actions.
I am a smoker, but I have to accept that if I want to go into a pub I cannot smoke, for the 'benefit' of the majority. This, in simple terms, means I have to go outside, regardless of the weather, to satisfy my 'craving'. Same applies on the bus/tube home, I am not allowed to smoke, so I don't. Smoking (although addictive) is and was MY choice, so I have to suffer the consequences.
Same with alcohol, if I CHOSE to drink such an amount that will make me unsafe to other road users, I do NOT take my car. I always have the CHOICE in the matter. If you want to get wrecked, fine by me.
Just don't expect me to have to put up with any effects it may have on you becase you have CHOSEN to do so.
I do not try and shift my failure to be willing and able to make my personal CHOICE onto others, as you seem to wish to do.