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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2009 17:23:48 GMT
right, theres all the info on this section of the site,but...... could drivers who've actually got i bus please in this thread list all the important stuff im going to need to know(thats not taught in training). we're getting i bus begining of march and rather than read through 16million posts in this section to find the inportant bits related to me as a driver(like good things )could you put down here the 'important' stuff i need to know and would usually only find out over a period of time actually using it. i hope that makes sense. if the site mod thinks its not good then by all means delete this thread. ;D
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Post by lc1 on Feb 5, 2009 18:47:07 GMT
Not sure if you have them at your garage, but if you change the bus from one route to another you must remember to log off before changing the wayfarer otherwise you will not be registered as the new route. Entering curtailments given to you prior to leaving the stand is awkward, I normally turn the iBus off until I'm able to enter the correct destination then obviously turn it back on If you get a curtailment on the buses last scheduled journey you cannot enter it so don't even bother trying, just turn it of ;D If the iBus loses your trip details (when running dead etc...) you can (if the schedule is entered correctly) manually select the correct trip (go in as if your doing a curtailment but press the button for timetable instead) everything else is pretty straightforward, however I would suggest you turn the alert bleep down to about 2 or 3 bars otherwise it will deafen you
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2009 19:04:37 GMT
excellent stuff. thats the sort of concise info/answers im after. thanks.
so,if your on route, and the garage say show 'blah' as your new destination,IE youve got a turn, can the ibus voice and display quickly show the buses new termination, or is that when you'd switch the thing off.?
you see thats the main thing im looking forward to. being able to let everyone know its got a curtailment.
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Post by beaver14uk on Feb 5, 2009 19:40:53 GMT
I must admit I am still a bit confused as I have heard conflicting infomation.
Do you just sign the ticket machine on as normal and that sets the ibus system up. I assume the only time you need to log the system on is if the link from the ticket machine to the radio fails (like now) or do you have to log on separately. Sdbloke has touched on this what about curtailments - as I assume you are meant to update the ticket machine aswell to reflect your new destination - think we have talked about this before.
Why is it that sometimes a curtailment has been given to the driver - say by a roadside official but I have heard of situations where you then cannot put the curtailment in until AVL process it - hence your ibus continues to play the wrong destination - is this true?
Far to many questions for here - really should look at the training package I have. sdbloke - I can send you it if you wish - PM me an email address if you think it might be some use. Or anyone else not yet on ibus for that matter.
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Post by lc1 on Feb 5, 2009 23:19:10 GMT
Right I'll try to answer as much as I can. For ease of reference I'll post the picture of the MDT again. sdbloke, there's a pre recorded message you can play, press f4 and then scroll through to find the message you want (or if you know the number enter that followed by the return key) Then to enter the turn, providing it's not THE BUSES last trip (i.e you don't sign it off) and the curtailment has been programmed into iBus then you can get it to announce the new destination when opening doors by pushing f2 and selecting curtailments. The only time I turn iBus off is if I cannot get it to announce the correct destination. beaver, your correct you just sign the module on as you do at present and the iBus MDT (should) automatically log in, however it dosen't pick up detination codes which is why you have to manually enter curtailments. The only problem I have had in entering a curtailment is when trying to enter one on stand, however it normally allows you to enter it once you reach the first stop. Not sure what happens if AVL (or iBus room as they call them at LC now) send you a curtailment as this has never happened for me. Also none of our inspector's seem to respond to the text messages you can send them (button c)
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Post by beaver14uk on Feb 5, 2009 23:33:14 GMT
Thanks LC1 I have a leaflet which is slightly different from that one that folds into four. I have heard an instance and I think reported on here whereby a curtailment is put in by say whatever means but the driver is unable to change the ultimate destination - say 177 still saying Thamesmead when turned at PD garage. The driver then if worth his/her salts then plays the message "the destination of this bus has changed" even though still says Thamesmead. Am I am being thick (I expect so) but if you changed the destination code on the ETM why can't this update the MDT - in fairness maybe I have missed something critical. Right I'll try to answer as much as I can. For ease of reference I'll post the picture of the MDT again. sdbloke, there's a pre recorded message you can play, press f4 and then scroll through to find the message you want (or if you know the number enter that followed by the return key) Then to enter the turn, providing it's not THE BUSES last trip (i.e you don't sign it off) and the curtailment has been programmed into iBus then you can get it to announce the new destination when opening doors by pushing f2 and selecting curtailments. The only time I turn iBus off is if I cannot get it to announce the correct destination. beaver, your correct you just sign the module on as you do at present and the iBus MDT (should) automatically log in, however it dosen't pick up detination codes which is why you have to manually enter curtailments. The only problem I have had in entering a curtailment is when trying to enter one on stand, however it normally allows you to enter it once you reach the first stop. Not sure what happens if AVL (or iBus room as they call them at LC now) send you a curtailment as this has never happened for me. Also none of our inspector's seem to respond to the text messages you can send them (button c)
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Post by Steve80 on Feb 5, 2009 23:39:34 GMT
Did not know about the trip details. Thank lc1. It never occured to me to see what that timetable option was when entering the curtailments page (f2). Remember to use the PA button when you get a curtailment thats not on ibus to let passengers know. Once again, never knew that until lc1 told me ;D
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Post by lc1 on Feb 5, 2009 23:44:57 GMT
The MDt dosen't recorgnise destination codes, hence why you have to manually enter the curtailment, if you have to manually programme the MDT you don't even get a place to enter destination (unless route variant comes up) As said I have never had a problem entering a curtailment (not that I have entered many that's the problem with doing lates/nights less turns ;D)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2009 23:45:10 GMT
superb stuff lads, keep it up. this is great, a 'to the bone' info thread. thanks alot. ;D
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Post by beaver14uk on Feb 5, 2009 23:57:22 GMT
As ever more useful information shared on here than some of the other useless things that are put together.
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Post by Steve80 on Feb 8, 2009 4:59:59 GMT
Not sure if you have them at your garage, but if you change the bus from one route to another you must remember to log off before changing the wayfarer otherwise you will not be registered as the new route. Another thing I was told, that I thought I might add is that if you don't log off the MDT before programming the wayfarer, you won't get the diagram showing how far you are from the next bus. Was told this by one of the controllers when I caught up with my leader.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2009 10:01:29 GMT
Right I'll try to answer as much as I can. For ease of reference I'll post the picture of the MDT again. sdbloke, there's a pre recorded message you can play, press f4 and then scroll through to find the message you want (or if you know the number enter that followed by the return key) Then to enter the turn, providing it's not THE BUSES last trip (i.e you don't sign it off) and the curtailment has been programmed into iBus then you can get it to announce the new destination when opening doors by pushing f2 and selecting curtailments. The only time I turn iBus off is if I cannot get it to announce the correct destination. beaver, your correct you just sign the module on as you do at present and the iBus MDT (should) automatically log in, however it dosen't pick up detination codes which is why you have to manually enter curtailments. The only problem I have had in entering a curtailment is when trying to enter one on stand, however it normally allows you to enter it once you reach the first stop. Not sure what happens if AVL (or iBus room as they call them at LC now) send you a curtailment as this has never happened for me. Also none of our inspector's seem to respond to the text messages you can send them (button c) WOW I didnt know that think was to control ibus or maybe I did
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2009 10:02:39 GMT
And you can try out the screen in London Transport Museum
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Post by greeny253 on Feb 8, 2009 10:20:17 GMT
Did not know about the trip details. Thank lc1. It never occured to me to see what that timetable option was when entering the curtailments page (f2). Remember to use the PA button when you get a curtailment thats not on ibus to let passengers know. Once again, never knew that until lc1 told me ;D Same here although for some reason when I tried to un-confuse my MDT yesterday by using the "With Timetable" bit it logged me off Worked OK on another bus though While I remember it - anyone know what it means when "Mutation: Change Block 88004" (I think it's something like that anyway) comes up on the screen???
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 1, 2009 18:54:51 GMT
Block I believe is the stupid name given to running numbers. Maybe it was saying you had signed on as a wrong running number (or didn't recongnise the r/n). Did not know about the trip details. Thank lc1. It never occured to me to see what that timetable option was when entering the curtailments page (f2). Remember to use the PA button when you get a curtailment thats not on ibus to let passengers know. Once again, never knew that until lc1 told me ;D Same here although for some reason when I tried to un-confuse my MDT yesterday by using the "With Timetable" bit it logged me off Worked OK on another bus though While I remember it - anyone know what it means when "Mutation: Change Block 88004" (I think it's something like that anyway) comes up on the screen???
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