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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 21:26:13 GMT
So with the the 83 batch, will W7 be retained with WDEs and so 83 will need a new batch? Probably depends what type gets ordered for the W7. If Metroline go for more Streetdecks for most of their new vehicle orders, they may just enter service as needed, and not bother switching batches to the intended routes. But if Metroline instead order BZLs or anything else, those WDEs likely will end up on the 83 eventually. I thought there would be a change of plan is that route W7 would absorb the spare route 17/43 BDEs. Maybe these could go to EW to top up route 142, releasing its WDEs to other routes, probably route 113?
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 21:29:28 GMT
Oh no 🙈 no appearance of VMHs on the 28/N28. I wonder what is going happen to the 206 well the double deck working. Right now the 206 uses one of the VMHs from the 31 batch and the 31 is moving to HT what will the 206 be using the VWs or as it’s contract starts around the corner will it use a WDE as WJ is wired up? Yes, that is a pity. When I saw an RATP VMH on route 28 this lunchtime I started looking forward to strays off route 31 appearing on route 28. Oh well, it means that routes 28, 31 & 328 will all be with one company not owning X but all different garages (WJ, HT & W respectively).
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 14, 2024 11:19:05 GMT
It occurs to me that with HT about to gain route 31, HT could have the largest EvoSeti allocation for Metroline and possibly in London, if not the rest of the country too.
HT will have VMHs on routes 4, 30, 31 & 274. This will not be for long, as route 4 has electric buses specified for its next tender. Route 30 seem vulnerable to loss to Stagecoach - but whether to an established depot, or ex-Tower Transit or HCT would as yet be unclear.
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Post by TB123 on Apr 14, 2024 11:27:05 GMT
It occurs to me that with HT about to gain route 31, HT could have the largest EvoSeti allocation for Metroline and possibly in London, if not the rest of the country too. HT will have VMHs on routes 4, 30, 31 & 274. This will not be for long, as route 4 has electric buses specified for its next tender. Route 30 seem vulnerable to loss to Stagecoach - but whether to an established depot, or ex-Tower Transit or HCT would as yet be unclear. I suspect if the 30 was lost to Stagecoach it would go to HK garage (ex HCT)
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Post by ADH45258 on Apr 14, 2024 12:14:06 GMT
It occurs to me that with HT about to gain route 31, HT could have the largest EvoSeti allocation for Metroline and possibly in London, if not the rest of the country too. HT will have VMHs on routes 4, 30, 31 & 274. This will not be for long, as route 4 has electric buses specified for its next tender. Route 30 seem vulnerable to loss to Stagecoach - but whether to an established depot, or ex-Tower Transit or HCT would as yet be unclear. I think Stagecoach would more likely run the 30 from either LI ot HK, rather than somewhere like BW. Though there's also a good chance of Arriva bidding for the 30, with CT on the line of the route. Will be interesting to see whether or not Metroline retain it, since it is now at HT rather than KC.
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Post by aleed on Apr 14, 2024 21:12:00 GMT
It occurs to me that with HT about to gain route 31, HT could have the largest EvoSeti allocation for Metroline and possibly in London, if not the rest of the country too. HT will have VMHs on routes 4, 30, 31 & 274. This will not be for long, as route 4 has electric buses specified for its next tender. Route 30 seem vulnerable to loss to Stagecoach - but whether to an established depot, or ex-Tower Transit or HCT would as yet be unclear. I think Stagecoach would more likely run the 30 from either LI ot HK, rather than somewhere like BW. Though there's also a good chance of Arriva bidding for the 30, with CT on the line of the route. Will be interesting to see whether or not Metroline retain it, since it is now at HT rather than KC. Is the 30 on a 5 year or 7 year contract?
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Post by Connor on Apr 14, 2024 21:33:39 GMT
VWH2010 deblinded and ready for Metroline Manchester
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Post by yunus on Apr 14, 2024 21:35:49 GMT
What routes allocation was this bus and what will replace it if known? They will likely make it a single doored bus!
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Post by TB123 on Apr 14, 2024 22:10:36 GMT
That will BEE wonderful to see! Nice to see they are getting the refurbs in early with 9 months still left. I wonder if some may be loaned to the existing operators if refurbished to allow for vehicle rotations to occur.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 14, 2024 23:16:53 GMT
What routes allocation was this bus and what will replace it if known? They will likely make it a single doored bus! Should be a 263 bus as I believe the 14 & 65 reg are allocated to the 263 with the 66 reg part of the 107.
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Post by Connor on Apr 15, 2024 1:15:54 GMT
What routes allocation was this bus and what will replace it if known? They will likely make it a single doored bus! Should be replaced by surplus VMH's. Which is a shame as the early 14 reg VWH's drive really nicely and the cab and interior is nicer, in my opinion. I will miss VWH2004/2006 the best ones in the batch. Side Note...there is a sign in the cab of VWH2003 saying 'Route 107 Only' . Looking at LVF, it hasn't left the 107 for the last few days, no idea why. The next VWH to be withdrawn is VWH2011.
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Post by barrypotter on Apr 15, 2024 6:52:16 GMT
What routes allocation was this bus and what will replace it if known? They will likely make it a single doored bus! Should be replaced by surplus VMH's. Which is a shame as the early 14 reg VWH's drive really nicely and the cab and interior is nicer, in my opinion. I will miss VWH2004/2006 the best ones in the batch. Side Note...there is a sign in the cab of VWH2003 saying 'Route 107 Only' . Looking at LVF, it hasn't left the 107 for the last few days, no idea why. The next VWH to withdrawn is VWH2011. View AttachmentThere was previously a sign on 2007, which said "route 107 only". Again, no idea why, but, running empty along the A1, it could do speeds that eg the 263 could only dream of. I will not miss these hybrids- on leaving Elstree Station, it is uncomfortable on the slight incline on to the often busy roundabout, not knowing whether the diesel will kick in and stay in. Not nice to even temporarily lose traction in the middle of a manoeuvre. IMHO.
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Post by sp17 on Apr 15, 2024 8:27:03 GMT
So strange seeing these VWHs leave London, I remember theme they were new, such nice buses they are. As another member said the cab is very nice on the Gemini series of buses, better than any other I’ve driven and that the whole Wright range as a whole. There’s hardly any blind sports, the curved window design allows you to see where exactly your bus is in relation to the curb. I could go on but the Gemini is such a well designed bus, it’s far superior to the E400 range of any year.
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Post by VWH1413 on Apr 15, 2024 11:45:45 GMT
Feels very abrupt knowing the very first batch of Gemini 3 hybrids leaving London. I often bumped into those when using 263 and found those just as rapid as other batches. Think I had a driver floor it one point. Much prefer those to VMHs.
Manchester will be getting a nice fleet. At least this way those will be more likely to last around 14-15 years.
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Post by Connor on Apr 15, 2024 13:03:34 GMT
Should be replaced by surplus VMH's. Which is a shame as the early 14 reg VWH's drive really nicely and the cab and interior is nicer, in my opinion. I will miss VWH2004/2006 the best ones in the batch. Side Note...there is a sign in the cab of VWH2003 saying 'Route 107 Only' . Looking at LVF, it hasn't left the 107 for the last few days, no idea why. The next VWH to withdrawn is VWH2011. View AttachmentThere was previously a sign on 2007, which said "route 107 only". Again, no idea why, but, running empty along the A1, it could do speeds that eg the 263 could only dream of. I will not miss these hybrids- on leaving Elstree Station, it is uncomfortable on the slight incline on to the often busy roundabout, not knowing whether the diesel will kick in and stay in. Not nice to even temporarily lose traction in the middle of a manoeuvre. IMHO. Yes, it's certainly disconcerting when B5LH Hybrids stall on that little hill. The best way to avoid the 'stalling' to floor it very quickly while pulling away from the station bus stop as that triggers the diesel engine and then you have no issues. Otherwise you have to stop before the roundabout, put the handbrake on and wait for the engine to start up in its own time. I would love to see how a TE or OME performs on the 107. Speaking of...
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