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Post by jamaal on Apr 20, 2009 11:07:01 GMT
which buses did metroline take on lease? where they the LR02 Presidents or the LT02 Presidens
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Post by firstboy on Apr 20, 2009 11:14:10 GMT
I know they took the ex armchair DT1 to DT22 on lease.
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Post by jamaal on Apr 20, 2009 11:46:04 GMT
so are the rest of the dts thiers
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Post by rnam on Apr 20, 2009 14:35:19 GMT
Hey anybody got any ideas as to why Metroline would repaint TP 306 then a few weeks later put it in store im sure they can find use for it? No idea but sometimes companies have their buses repainted into a plain livery and cleaned up before they are returned to the leasor (or is it the leasor who does this job themselves) . Would not explain why Metroline had it repainted into full livery though What do you mean "what has happened to it" - I don't see anything wrong with it It's still installed on those batch of TEs. I mean those lines?
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Post by jamaal on Apr 20, 2009 19:59:34 GMT
I can confirm they did take DT16 too on loan
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2009 23:29:29 GMT
No idea but sometimes companies have their buses repainted into a plain livery and cleaned up before they are returned to the leasor (or is it the leasor who does this job themselves) . Would not explain why Metroline had it repainted into full livery though What do you mean "what has happened to it" - I don't see anything wrong with it It's still installed on those batch of TEs. I mean those lines? Oh now I see. It's just the blind box; it's quite dirty, nothing a good clean won't sort out. which buses did metroline take on lease? where they the LR02 Presidents or the LT02 Presidens I believe it was both (TP297-316). I say 'both' as TP297 and TP298 have LR02- plates, with the rest of that batch having LT02- plates. And just to avoid confusing anyone - I'm not referring to the TPLs, some of which also have the LR02- plates. They aren't leased. Should save people from moaning later on ;D
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Post by jamaal on Apr 21, 2009 10:29:01 GMT
I did see TP305 on the 205 yesterday so i dont actually know whats going on with Metroline at the moment I'll have to find out, Many DTs at Brentford were on lease as many of them didnt recieve thier Metroline Badges becuase there was an opt for them to go back on lease, however I really do like the fact TPs are permanently based at Brentford now, a repaint may occur in the summer due to the renewel of the contract and may TPs are moving from Potters Bar, TP364 was the last one i believe and TP 355 from Perivale East, also many TPs are shuffling between garages, TP411, TP413 and TP423 have moved to perivale garage and many more are in the course.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2009 13:20:51 GMT
Many DTs at Brentford were on lease as many of them didnt recieve thier Metroline Badges becuase there was an opt for them to go back on lease Hold on... I remember most of them gained Metroline logos in the end (rather hotch-potch I must add; some gained small logos and others gained HUGE logos)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2009 11:05:53 GMT
Ok I have news regarding the closure of NW and where its routes will be going: - Route 206 will be moving to Perivale (PV)
- Route 232 will also be moving to Perivale (PV)
- Route 251 will be moving to Cricklewood (W)
All info sourced from London Bus Routes - Service ChangesThe choice of garage for the 206 and 251 has surprised me I would have thought the 206 would be better off being operated from Cricklewood, seeing as it isn't far from Kilburn Park (one of the 206's terminals), but then there are the traffic problems encountered during dead running, as I touched on earlier on in this thread. Saying that, St. Raphael's isn't too far from Perivale - just a quick run along the North Circular. The same applies to the 232, which is why I wasn't surprised about that. As for the 251 I would say Edgware (EW) would have been a better choice, but I can only come up with garage space or the need to keep EW as a fully-double deck garage as a reason why W was chosen instead.
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Post by TA1 on Apr 27, 2009 19:01:31 GMT
Are Metroline, Feeling alright?
It just dawned upon me that PV is losing the 205 in the coming months and garage space might be the best option. but the 251 i swear that operates near W, so the dead running won't be to bad.
The 206 i thought could have been an AC Job, but just me.
The 232 i'm abit suprised at i know W Could have obtained the route, but saying that PV isen't far away from Raphz, as you said.
Sometimes Traffic is appauling around the stonebridge park and park royal areas on the A406, so would not that be an issue?
Will the 206/232 drivers still changeover at Neasden Tesco?
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Post by firstboy on Apr 27, 2009 20:59:43 GMT
251 could go to PB?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2009 12:39:26 GMT
Are Metroline, Feeling alright? It just dawned upon me that PV is losing the 205 in the coming months and garage space might be the best option. but the 251 i swear that operates near W, so the dead running won't be to bad. The 206 i thought could have been an AC Job, but just me. The 232 i'm abit suprised at i know W Could have obtained the route, but saying that PV isen't far away from Raphz, as you said. Sometimes Traffic is appauling around the stonebridge park and park royal areas on the A406, so would not that be an issue? Will the 206/232 drivers still changeover at Neasden Tesco? I forgot all about AC that could have been a plausible location for the 206 I suppose (perhaps then some decent single-deckers could escape onto their 302 instead of the allocated poorly-maintained Dart trash : From W, the nearest point on the 251 route is Burnt Oak Broadway, and a dead run between there and W (along the A5) would be 3 miles, so it's not too bad but it's not exactly near. Traffic along the A5 used to be really good but in the past couple of years it's become ridiculous, so I can see the 251's service screwing up a bit there. I agree with you about traffic levels on the A406; however there are the service roads between Hanger Lane and Stonebridge Park for relief (the 112 runs along that bit towards Brent Cross) but they can get clogged up with cars diverting from the main traffic too I don't know at present where the 206/232 driver changes would take place, but Neasden (Tesco), as you thought, would be a sensible choice, seeing as both routes will be run from PV and they both serve Tesco's and St. Raphael's. Not a good idea that - dead running would be almost 8 miles (from Arnos Grove, via Barnet), or 7 miles (via Cockfosters). Plus PB have enough long dead runs to deal with, with their 82 running from here to North Finchley, so I don't think they need another route with huge dead-running.
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Post by TA1 on Apr 28, 2009 17:01:35 GMT
On the 206 topic, Up Pound Lane then donnington road - then on line of route, that would have been easier. IMO.
I know where your talking about just after the ealing car pound turn off where the piccadilly line zooms over the A406 There is tat road what goes past the Holiday inn, i believe or one of them hotels. Yeah you are right that it gets clocked with traffic so does the Stonebridge park turn of, where the traffic towards harlesden, harrow road (Wembley) and harrow intersect, when there is alot of traffic. it takes a while. Maybe if that relief road became a bus lane and local traffic only i think there would be smoother operations through Park Royal? what do you think?
The 206/232 Both have driver changes at Neasden Tesco now, so they'd most proberly keep the exsisting arrangements?
I was convinced the 251 Went past either cricklewood or Mill Hill Broadway train station (First Capital Connect)? but thats like the same difference right
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Post by jamaal on Apr 28, 2009 17:17:57 GMT
before i knew that North Wembley was due to close down, i noticed that to MCVs from NW had thier garage codes removed, now i dont know wheather this was to do with the shuffling of buses, because buses were shifting between Perivale and North Wembley even after the IBUS Installation, does anyone think Metroline were preparing for the closure of NW by removing the garage codes?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2009 19:32:37 GMT
On the 206 topic, Up Pound Lane then donnington road - then on line of route, that would have been easier. IMO. I know where your talking about just after the ealing car pound turn off where the piccadilly line zooms over the A406 There is tat road what goes past the Holiday inn, i believe or one of them hotels. Yeah you are right that it gets clocked with traffic so does the Stonebridge park turn of, where the traffic towards harlesden, harrow road (Wembley) and harrow intersect, when there is alot of traffic. it takes a while. Maybe if that relief road became a bus lane and local traffic only i think there would be smoother operations through Park Royal? what do you think? The 206/232 Both have driver changes at Neasden Tesco now, so they'd most proberly keep the exsisting arrangements? I was convinced the 251 Went past either cricklewood or Mill Hill Broadway train station (First Capital Connect)? but thats like the same difference right I think that service road is a bit too narrow in places (especially after that car pound) to have a bus lane and two lanes of traffic, plus cars park haphazardly along that road. Alternatively they could restrict that road to "buses only except for access", so that only buses and vans/lorries making deliveries could access that service road? How that would work I do not know though The 251 only serves Mill Hill Broadway, not Cricklewood Station. before i knew that North Wembley was due to close down, i noticed that to MCVs from NW had thier garage codes removed, now i dont know wheather this was to do with the shuffling of buses, because buses were shifting between Perivale and North Wembley even after the IBUS Installation, does anyone think Metroline were preparing for the closure of NW by removing the garage codes? I think it's a case of both, but then the '07 reg MMs were never transferred to Perivale at all (only the 57' reg were getting swapped around). Yet I haven't seen NW codes on them either; at least not recently.
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