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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 22:55:51 GMT
Metroline seems to finally be putting some more of the VWHs delivered before Christmas into service Seem to be going into service generally on route 52 Still about 50 VWHs to enter service (not sure if any are not yet delivered, or if they are stored for some reason) but they were for 2017 contract renewals (originally part of batches for routes 4, 6, 17, 90, 98, 222, 260, 302)) presumably one or more of these routes is still awaiting their new buses That is one heck of a lot of brand new buses, have they ordered too many ?
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Post by vjaska on Jan 15, 2018 23:36:30 GMT
Metroline seems to finally be putting some more of the VWHs delivered before Christmas into service Seem to be going into service generally on route 52 Still about 50 VWHs to enter service (not sure if any are not yet delivered, or if they are stored for some reason) but they were for 2017 contract renewals (originally part of batches for routes 4, 6, 17, 90, 98, 222, 260, 302)) presumably one or more of these routes is still awaiting their new buses That is one heck of a lot of brand new buses, have they ordered too many ? Nope, just that they have changed which routes are getting what VWH's. The 90 ended up not having any VWH's ordered IIRC and has simply carried on using the SEL's, the 4 ended up with the 7's 14 reg VWH's whilst the 17 has ended up with some of the 15 reg VWH's from the 6 & 98. The 222 has received all of it's VWH's and I think is the only route that actually received the VWH's that were ordered for it (VWH2345-2363). All this has seemed to have caused a knock on effect.
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Post by ServerKing on Jan 15, 2018 23:41:03 GMT
That is one heck of a lot of brand new buses, have they ordered too many ? Nope, just that they have changed which routes are getting what VWH's. The 90 ended up not having any VWH's ordered IIRC and has simply carried on using the SEL's, the 4 ended up with the 7's 14 reg VWH's whilst the 17 has ended up with some of the 15 reg VWH's from the 6 & 98. The 222 has received all of it's VWH's and I think is the only route that actually received the VWH's that were ordered for it (VWH2345-2363). All this has seemed to have caused a knock on effect. They could use some for the 231 later this year
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Post by busoccultation on Jan 16, 2018 7:32:42 GMT
That is one heck of a lot of brand new buses, have they ordered too many ? Nope, just that they have changed which routes are getting what VWH's. The 90 ended up not having any VWH's ordered IIRC and has simply carried on using the SEL's, the 4 ended up with the 7's 14 reg VWH's whilst the 17 has ended up with some of the 15 reg VWH's from the 6 & 98. The 222 has received all of it's VWH's and I think is the only route that actually received the VWH's that were ordered for it (VWH2345-2363). All this has seemed to have caused a knock on effect. 120 also had received the VWH's (VWH2266-2284) that was intended to the route as well.
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Jan 16, 2018 10:38:18 GMT
Won't happen now but I wish TFL had introduced a service between Barnet and Potters Bar by either extending a route from Barnet or running a short route between the two places. 383 actually used to go Potters Bar yearsss ago, but was cut "without replacement" - or rather leaving just the 84. Except Metroline demand a very overpriced +4 quid for the ticket, bun that! 4th edition of the Big Red Book still claims Potters Bar station is served by the 383 as well, if only
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Post by redexpress on Jan 16, 2018 12:54:59 GMT
Won't happen now but I wish TFL had introduced a service between Barnet and Potters Bar by either extending a route from Barnet or running a short route between the two places. 383 actually used to go Potters Bar yearsss ago, but was cut "without replacement" - or rather leaving just the 84. Except Metroline demand a very overpriced +4 quid for the ticket, bun that! 4th edition of the Big Red Book still claims Potters Bar station is served by the 383 as well, if only Used to be a nice way of getting to Potters Bar that, bombing down narrow lanes in a step-entrance Dart I remember it would occasionally pick up a passenger at Kitt's End, so that section of route wasn't completely useless. Hadn't realised the fare on the 84 was that steep now. No wonder that section's being reduced. I'm not paying £4 to ride on a crappy old E200!
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Post by kmkcheng on Jan 16, 2018 13:01:58 GMT
383 actually used to go Potters Bar yearsss ago, but was cut "without replacement" - or rather leaving just the 84. Except Metroline demand a very overpriced +4 quid for the ticket, bun that! 4th edition of the Big Red Book still claims Potters Bar station is served by the 383 as well, if only Used to be a nice way of getting to Potters Bar that, bombing down narrow lanes in a step-entrance Dart I remember it would occasionally pick up a passenger at Kitt's End, so that section of route wasn't completely useless. Hadn't realised the fare on the 84 was that steep now. No wonder that section's being reduced. I'm not paying £4 to ride on a crappy old E200! According to metroline’s website, it’s £2.60 for a single and £3.90 return between Potters Bar and Barnet
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Post by redexpress on Jan 16, 2018 13:13:26 GMT
Used to be a nice way of getting to Potters Bar that, bombing down narrow lanes in a step-entrance Dart I remember it would occasionally pick up a passenger at Kitt's End, so that section of route wasn't completely useless. Hadn't realised the fare on the 84 was that steep now. No wonder that section's being reduced. I'm not paying £4 to ride on a crappy old E200! According to metroline’s website, it’s £2.60 for a single and £3.90 return between Potters Bar and Barnet Thanks, that's much more sensible. If Metroline stick some slightly nicer buses on it they might get a bit of cash from me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 13:22:07 GMT
84 [From Potters Bar through] Barnet to New Barnet carries little more than fresh air due to the prevalence of TfL routes that mirror the section. I believe all single fares from the Greater London boundary to New Barnet are £1 (or similar) to match the TfL rates.
Original plan was for a 20 minute frequency Barnet to St. Albans, but was met by many objections with little reasoning, so ended up with a half hourly full service and Potters Bar shorts to match the current frequency on the better used part. Part of the timetable change is to improve reliability.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 13:23:31 GMT
According to metroline’s website, it’s £2.60 for a single and £3.90 return between Potters Bar and Barnet Thanks, that's much more sensible. If Metroline stick some slightly nicer buses on it they might get a bit of cash from me. Unless a miracle happens, it'll [sadly] be TfL cast-offs for the foreseeable future. Some DELs are however being replaced by the 55 plated TEs from Holloway.
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Post by Green Kitten on Jan 16, 2018 13:31:38 GMT
383 actually used to go Potters Bar yearsss ago, but was cut "without replacement" - or rather leaving just the 84. Except Metroline demand a very overpriced +4 quid for the ticket, bun that! 4th edition of the Big Red Book still claims Potters Bar station is served by the 383 as well, if only Used to be a nice way of getting to Potters Bar that, bombing down narrow lanes in a step-entrance Dart I remember it would occasionally pick up a passenger at Kitt's End, so that section of route wasn't completely useless. Hadn't realised the fare on the 84 was that steep now. No wonder that section's being reduced. I'm not paying £4 to ride on a crappy old E200! I remember the 383 rides I had through Kitts End. Wish the route was still running when I was living in Potters Bar. Bring it back I say! When was the route cut back to Barnet?
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Post by grubbysa on Jan 16, 2018 14:06:45 GMT
Used to be a nice way of getting to Potters Bar that, bombing down narrow lanes in a step-entrance Dart I remember it would occasionally pick up a passenger at Kitt's End, so that section of route wasn't completely useless. Hadn't realised the fare on the 84 was that steep now. No wonder that section's being reduced. I'm not paying £4 to ride on a crappy old E200! I remember the 383 rides I had through Kitts End. Wish the route was still running when I was living in Potters Bar. Bring it back I say! When was the route cut back to Barnet? In 2003 I believe when Sullivan took over. Do miss those days of getting one of SM Caetano Darts to school being floored through Oakleigh Park.
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Post by snoggle on Jan 16, 2018 14:07:13 GMT
When was the (383) route cut back to Barnet? 26 July 2003 according to Ian Armstrong's site.
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Jan 16, 2018 15:15:28 GMT
Hadn't realised the fare on the 84 was that steep now. No wonder that section's being reduced. I'm not paying £4 to ride on a crappy old E200! According to metroline’s website, it’s £2.60 for a single and £3.90 return between Potters Bar and Barnet Strange, I was charged over 4 pound from Barnet Station to Potters Bar station How on earth did that come about??
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Post by londonbuses2018 on Jan 17, 2018 9:22:56 GMT
Does anyone know what’s going on with Route 125 Extension I do know that residents don’t want the route doing down Greyhound Hill.
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