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Metroline
Aug 21, 2019 16:13:49 GMT
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Post by george on Aug 21, 2019 16:13:49 GMT
Sorry if this is explained elsewhere on the thread, but can I ask why Metroline bought just a handful of ADL Enviro 400MMC double decks? Aside from rare appearances, they operate only on route 332, right? It's strange reading about Wrightbus's current financial problems, because looking at Metroline's recent double decks purchases you'd think Wrightbus was doing well. Perhaps I shouldn't assume that the routes I personally travel are a representative sample of the UK bus industry. ;-) I think chosing ADL was more to do with their partnership with BYD, if BYD partnered with MCV or Wrightbus it might have been different
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Post by VWH1414 on Aug 21, 2019 16:25:51 GMT
Sorry if this is explained elsewhere on the thread, but can I ask why Metroline bought just a handful of ADL Enviro 400MMC double decks? Aside from rare appearances, they operate only on route 332, right? It's strange reading about Wrightbus's current financial problems, because looking at Metroline's recent double decks purchases you'd think Wrightbus was doing well. Perhaps I shouldn't assume that the routes I personally travel are a representative sample of the UK bus industry. ;-) I think chosing ADL was more to do with their partnership with BYD, if BYD partnered with MCV or Wrightbus it might have been different The user isn't talking about recent purchases, they are talking about the only regular E400MMCs in Metrolines fleet (TEH2072-287 at W). I believe this is to do with several things: 1. Cost - Metroline found them too expensive, and the VWHs and now VMHs cheaper. 2. Their Volvo partnership - Volvo B5LH E400MMCs are not very common, and Metroline opted for the Gemini instead until recently - which again probably ties in with cost. 3. W only seems to stick to ADL products (other then LTs) - Although a similar thing was thought of at EW until that was disproven recently.
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Post by george on Aug 21, 2019 16:34:06 GMT
I think chosing ADL was more to do with their partnership with BYD, if BYD partnered with MCV or Wrightbus it might have been different The user isn't talking about recent purchases, they are talking about the only regular E400MMCs in Metrolines fleet (TEH2072-287 at W). I believe this is to do with several things: 1. Cost - Metroline found them too expensive, and the VWHs and now VMHs cheaper. 2. Their Volvo partnership - Volvo B5LH E400MMCs are not very common, and Metroline opted for the Gemini instead until recently - which again probably ties in with cost. 3. W only seems to stick to ADL products (other then LTs) - Although a similar thing was thought of at EW until that was disproven recently. Yes sorry my apologies
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 21, 2019 16:45:12 GMT
Metroline haven't ordered Wrights for a bit now having switched to Evosetis for its recent orders. Same with Go ahead going mainly for E40Hs now.
As for why did Metroline go for MMCs was that at the time W was all Enviro or TA operated and I guess they wanted to not introduce Volvos into the garage.
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Post by rif153 on Aug 21, 2019 17:20:23 GMT
Although there are a multitude of reasons for Metroline's switch to MCV, one that hasn't been mentioned is that Metroline were apparently unhappy with the quality of the last batch of VWHs they received.
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Post by LVF_Admin on Aug 21, 2019 21:13:37 GMT
That's good news! I thought the trial might have gone the way of the branding on buses. I think the technology is good enough to be used on all future orders IMO. It will also save a fortune on blinds and make transfers / loans so much easier. The LED Display on the OME is much easier to photo than those on the Stagecoach London Buses, it's slightly different
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Post by LVF_Admin on Aug 21, 2019 21:15:45 GMT
why does OME2654e have an "e" at the end when all the other OME showing don't? Because I added the "e" to signify that it has electronic displays
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Post by george on Aug 21, 2019 21:19:41 GMT
why does OME2654e have an "e" at the end when all the other OME showing don't? Because I added the "e" to signify that it has electronic displays Found out the other day, Nice idea.
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Post by busoccultation on Aug 21, 2019 21:57:20 GMT
why does OME2654e have an "e" at the end when all the other OME showing don't? Because I added the "e" to signify that it has electronic displays I would like to see a ''List LED'' function on LVF to see all the buses that has LED blinds as currently the LED and branded buses are mixed together in the ''List Brand'' function.
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Post by E279 on Aug 22, 2019 5:14:26 GMT
Unlike the 43's BDEs, Potters Bar (PB) seem to like to put the OMEs into service before the rest of its current allocation, whereas HT have 6 buses VMH/VWHs and only allow the electric BDEs out from 06:00 AM. The N134s timetable is great because it means that the daytime 134 begins around 5:45 - 50 AM, something like this would be very beneficial if the BDEs cannot be used before 06:00 AM.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 18:13:34 GMT
LT810 is one the 332
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Post by dmncf on Aug 22, 2019 19:01:54 GMT
Thanks for your replies george, VP500, southlondonbus and rif153. The factor of standardisation on ADL at W makes sense, as do the later orders for other garages for VWHs and VMHs due to price. I'd heard rumours about Metroline being unhappy VWHs build quality. I've not perceived this as a passenger - have I not been looking properly? I guess also rectification may have taken place before the buses were accepted by Metroline.
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Post by Londonbuses54 on Aug 22, 2019 21:17:36 GMT
what is that weird ‘chainsaw’ noise that can be heard in the new OME?
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Post by rj131 on Aug 22, 2019 21:50:21 GMT
Thanks for your replies george, VP500, southlondonbus and rif153. The factor of standardisation on ADL at W makes sense, as do the later orders for other garages for VWHs and VMHs due to price. I'd heard rumours about Metroline being unhappy VWHs build quality. I've not perceived this as a passenger - have I not been looking properly? I guess also rectification may have taken place before the buses were accepted by Metroline. You probably haven’t been looking properly their build quality is horrendous. It feels like a light flimsy pound shop product while probably paying the same price as the other big boy products, no wonder why so many companies have turned away from them. Travel on one of the 3-yo G3’s on the 85, or the ones on the 140/182 and you’ll see why. They’re dreadful. On top of that it also wasn’t helped by the fact everytime Metroline ordered a batch of the d*mn things they were always late! The kerfuffle Metroline had with the 222 having to do a massive reshuffle because of their late arrival was certainly not ideal, and wasn’t even their fault.
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Post by northken on Aug 22, 2019 22:22:22 GMT
Thanks for your replies george, VP500, southlondonbus and rif153. The factor of standardisation on ADL at W makes sense, as do the later orders for other garages for VWHs and VMHs due to price. I'd heard rumours about Metroline being unhappy VWHs build quality. I've not perceived this as a passenger - have I not been looking properly? I guess also rectification may have taken place before the buses were accepted by Metroline. You probably haven’t been looking properly their build quality is horrendous. It feels like a light flimsy pound shop product while probably paying the same price as the other big boy products, no wonder why so many companies have turned away from them. Travel on one of the 3-yo G3’s on the 85, or the ones on the 140/182 and you’ll see why. They’re dreadful. On top of that it also wasn’t helped by the fact everytime Metroline ordered a batch of the d*mn things they were always late! The kerfuffle Metroline had with the 222 having to do a massive reshuffle because of their late arrival was certainly not ideal, and wasn’t even their fault. I really don't notice that either. I get the feeling the build quality is better than the VMHs, which just feel a bit cheaper (especially some of the GoAhead examples). I see a fair few battered G3 knocking around but thought that was down to poor driving; they're still rockets.
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