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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2009 17:47:22 GMT
yes theres no point trying to get on any skeleton service I would be surprised if there were any skeleton services, the risk of over crowding would make it impossible to run. One time I was in London when there was a general tube strike, and my god buses on Euston road were all packed to the rafters! As I mentioned earlier, in the 2007 strike there were no buses past Kings Cross Thameslink coming from Pentonville Road when I wanted to go that way. Between the extra demand placed on buses and more significantly the increased traffic from people choosing to drive instead, I would not rely on them after that experience. Personally, if I was in John's position, I would consider getting the Overground to Camden Road and trying to get a bus from there. That way if things are that bad on the roads you still have the option of walking to Euston.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2009 17:50:52 GMT
yes theres no point trying to get on any skeleton service I would be surprised if there were any skeleton services, the risk of over crowding would make it impossible to run. One time I was in London when there was a general tube strike, and my god buses on Euston road were all packed to the rafters! As I mentioned earlier, in the 2007 strike there were no buses past Kings Cross Thameslink coming from Pentonville Road when I wanted to go that way. Between the extra demand placed on buses and more significantly the increased traffic from people choosing to drive instead, I would not rely on them after that experience. Personally, if I was in John's position, I would consider getting the Overground to Camden Road and trying to get a bus from there. That way if things are that bad on the roads you still have the option of walking to Euston. yes but if its not advertise it it might not be as busy
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Post by john on Jun 3, 2009 21:06:37 GMT
Personally, if I was in John's position, I would consider getting the Overground to Camden Road and trying to get a bus from there. That way if things are that bad on the roads you still have the option of walking to Euston. I hadn't thought of that option!! Overground from Stratford then the 24 from Camden down to Euston. Cheers for the "someone", that's given me another option. Actually, might just do that. As you've said, the walking distance from Camden to Euston alone isn't as bad as say Liverpool Street!!
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Post by snowman on Jun 4, 2009 5:41:14 GMT
One time I was in London when there was a general tube strike, and my god buses on Euston road were all packed to the rafters! I remember a couple of one day strikes about 20 years ago (1989?) where the Underground and British Rail both went on strike the same day. I think the authorities were so worried about extra traffic and cars parked everywhere, they permitted parking in Hyde Park (and some other parks) for free. In those days no-one had home computers or mobile connections, so if you couldn't carry your job home, you had to come in, even if it meant walking miles. Our office operated 6 or 7am - 3 or 4pm to try and beat traffic. At the time I lived in Wathamstow, and worked in Fleet Street so it was bus via Leyton to Stratford, DLR (then still single unit, but a direct route), to Tower Gateway and walk. (Very few buses moving in City, where walking was quicker than waiting for one). Even if trains, DLR, Overground, buses, and handful of tubes on outer branches are still running, having a tube strike will still be a pain).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2009 13:00:26 GMT
20 years ago would have been 1989 - I'm sure you meant 10 years ago as I vaguely remember there being a full-scale LU strike round about then? One time I was in London when there was a general tube strike, and my god buses on Euston road were all packed to the rafters! I remember a couple of one day strikes about 20 years ago (1999?) where the Underground and British Rail both went on strike the same day. I think the authorities were so worried about extra traffic and cars parked everywhere, they permitted parking in Hyde Park (and some other parks) for free. In those days no-one had home computers or mobile connections, so if you couldn't carry your job home, you had to come in, even if it meant walking miles. Our office operated 6 or 7am - 3 or 4pm to try and beat traffic. At the time I lived in Wathamstow, and worked in Fleet Street so it was but via Leyton to Stratford, DLR (then still single unit, but a direct route), to Tower Gateway and walk. (Very few buses moving in City, where walking was quicker than waiting for one). Even if trains, DLR, Overground, buses, and handful of tubes on outer branches are still running, having a tube strike will still be a pain).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2009 13:12:33 GMT
One time I was in London when there was a general tube strike, and my god buses on Euston road were all packed to the rafters! I remember a couple of one day strikes about 20 years ago (1999?) where the Underground and British Rail both went on strike the same day. I think the authorities were so worried about extra traffic and cars parked everywhere, they permitted parking in Hyde Park (and some other parks) for free. In those days no-one had home computers or mobile connections, so if you couldn't carry your job home, you had to come in, even if it meant walking miles. Our office operated 6 or 7am - 3 or 4pm to try and beat traffic. At the time I lived in Wathamstow, and worked in Fleet Street so it was but via Leyton to Stratford, DLR (then still single unit, but a direct route), to Tower Gateway and walk. (Very few buses moving in City, where walking was quicker than waiting for one). Even if trains, DLR, Overground, buses, and handful of tubes on outer branches are still running, having a tube strike will still be a pain). That would of caused chaos good job the DLR was working
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Post by john on Jun 4, 2009 14:54:19 GMT
Well, i've decided to leave Romford as if i was getting to Euston for an hour earlier, just in case i do suffer any major delay, i'd have given myself enough time to walk, even from Liverpool Street!!
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Post by snowman on Jun 4, 2009 15:36:39 GMT
20 years ago would have been 1989 - I'm sure you meant 10 years ago as I vaguely remember there being a full-scale LU strike round about then? bad maths on my part, should have been 1989 (not 1999), have corrected it, apologies
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2009 15:23:43 GMT
20 years ago would have been 1989 - I'm sure you meant 10 years ago as I vaguely remember there being a full-scale LU strike round about then? bad maths on my part, should have been 1989 (not 1999), have corrected it, apologies well hopefully the RMT can agree on something and the strike can be called off
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2009 15:26:18 GMT
That's alright. That would have been one strike I would not have remembered seeing as I would have been a baby around that time 20 years ago would have been 1989 - I'm sure you meant 10 years ago as I vaguely remember there being a full-scale LU strike round about then? bad maths on my part, should have been 1989 (not 1999), have corrected it, apologies
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Post by snowman on Jun 8, 2009 21:16:22 GMT
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Post by Steve80 on Jun 8, 2009 22:48:12 GMT
Apparently there will be 100 extra buses durin the strikes. Any idea what routes will gain the extra buses?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2009 2:11:36 GMT
Well common sense would suggest it'll be central London routes, and given the number of spare vehicles at each garage along with the availability of spare drivers, I would imagine it'll be a case of most routes getting an extra 1 or 2 vehicles - maybe 3 at a push - with those extra vehicles doing short shuttles on the central area portion of routes.
I can't help thinking though, that with the likely increase in cars, putting out extra buses may be a hindrance rather than a help...
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Post by snowman on Jun 9, 2009 5:37:53 GMT
Well common sense would suggest it'll be central London routes, and given the number of spare vehicles at each garage along with the availability of spare drivers, I would imagine it'll be a case of most routes getting an extra 1 or 2 vehicles - maybe 3 at a push - with those extra vehicles doing short shuttles on the central area portion of routes. quote] No details yet on where the 100 extra buses will be If you could find the drivers, and overtime opportunities are likely be high, then 100 buses should be easy, spares, some recently replaced but not yet deregistered, maybe some early deliveries that are ready. If TfL are prepared to waive some of its latest rules and even send out buses without ticket machines (in a crisis anything that can shift people, providing it is safe, might be ok) who knows what will appear, maybe something like this londonbuspics.fotopic.net/p58816186.html
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Post by Swadbus on Jun 9, 2009 17:23:57 GMT
Well common sense would suggest it'll be central London routes, and given the number of spare vehicles at each garage along with the availability of spare drivers, I would imagine it'll be a case of most routes getting an extra 1 or 2 vehicles - maybe 3 at a push - with those extra vehicles doing short shuttles on the central area portion of routes. quote] No details yet on where the 100 extra buses will be If you could find the drivers, and overtime opportunities are likely be high, then 100 buses should be easy, spares, some recently replaced but not yet deregistered, maybe some early deliveries that are ready. If TfL are prepared to waive some of its latest rules and even send out buses without ticket machines (in a crisis anything that can shift people, providing it is safe, might be ok) who knows what will appear, maybe something like this londonbuspics.fotopic.net/p58816186.htmlI was speaking to one of the conductors on the 15H today who says that it is rumoured the light running buses to/from Bow on the 15H (ROUTEMASTERS!!) are to be run as route 25's tomorrow morning and evening to help provide extra capacity!! Obviously it's just a rumour, but keep ya eyes open guys! ;D
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