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Post by paulo on Apr 25, 2018 14:53:26 GMT
Oh dear Mr Grayling is not happy with SWR's performance and has ordered a review. Here we go again - exactly the same was done for Southern. This is what happens when you decide you hate the old incumbent operator and want them out regardless of the consequences. 21 years of experience dumped. However, remember South West Trains were awful for the last 18 months of the contract too long before the knew their time was up.
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Post by thewintersoldier on May 7, 2018 8:03:56 GMT
442’s currently being tested overnight between Southampton and Branksome.
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Post by YY13VKP on May 11, 2018 15:31:51 GMT
Now that Clapham Junction and London Waterloo are now managed by Network Rail, will they have their announcements changed to the ATOS Anne announcements that they have at all their other stations? Clapham Junction is still using the old Phil Sayer/Celia Drummond announcements and I’d imagine that they would want to standardise it with the rest of the stations that NR manage.
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Post by TNL33036 on May 11, 2018 18:17:53 GMT
Now that Clapham Junction and London Waterloo are now managed by Network Rail, will they have their announcements changed to the ATOS Anne announcements that they have at all their other stations? Clapham Junction is still using the old Phil Sayer/Celia Drummond announcements and I’d imagine that they would want to standardise it with the rest of the stations that NR manage. Hasn’t WAT always been managed by NR? In regards to announcements, at WAT shortly before the franchise change I think the automated announcements changed to utilise the new KeTech version of Celia but then anything in regards to announcements can change again.
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Post by T.R. on May 11, 2018 20:03:09 GMT
Hasn’t WAT always been managed by NR? Maybe he meant Guildford? Clapham Junction is still using the old Phil Sayer/Celia Drummond announcements... (and once in a blue moon, a TR announcement) Celia voices platforms 1/2, 5/6, 9, 13/14, and 17(?). Phil voices platforms 3/4, 11/12, & 15/16. To be honest the current set up of alternating voices helps. One week, platform 5/6 changed to Phil and we struggled due to neighbouring P3/4 also being voiced by Phil. There is a *rumoured* change of announcements in the works, but I don't think it fares too high up on NR's list.
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Post by TNL33036 on May 12, 2018 22:54:42 GMT
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Post by snoggle on May 12, 2018 23:07:31 GMT
Ugh! I use train rides to escape for all that nonsense. I know it won't be broadcast in the carriage for all to hear but what a waste of time and money. Make the trains run on time and ensure there are enough carriages!! All this does is create another source of potential moans from people who miss programmes, can't connect their devices etc. Look at the endless complaints about non functioning / poor wifi on trains - those complaints never existed before but now it's just another to moan about.
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Post by galwhv69 on May 13, 2018 6:46:57 GMT
Ugh! I use train rides to escape for all that nonsense. I know it won't be broadcast in the carriage for all to hear but what a waste of time and money. Make the trains run on time and ensure there are enough carriages!! All this does is create another source of potential moans from people who miss programmes, can't connect their devices etc. Look at the endless complaints about non functioning / poor wifi on trains - those complaints never existed before but now it's just another to moan about. It forces you to not pick least likely more than once!
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Post by Nathan on Jun 2, 2018 8:09:10 GMT
Saw some South West Trains vans in the car park on Sopwith Way (round the corner from Kingston station). It was quite weird seeing this lol (See attachment)
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Post by thewintersoldier on Jun 20, 2018 2:01:07 GMT
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Post by joefrombow on Jun 20, 2018 2:51:31 GMT
Impressed that the service managed to still get the go ahead over 2 hours late had that been Greater Anglia down here it would of 100% been cancelled so good management keeping services still going that late ! Bit of a rubbish one finishing that late though if not scheduled too .
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Post by paulo on Jun 20, 2018 6:45:50 GMT
Impressed that the service managed to still get the go ahead over 2 hours late had that been Greater Anglia down here it would of 100% been cancelled so good management keeping services still going that late ! Bit of a rubbish one finishing that late though if not scheduled too . I think they have done an incredible job in making the network considerably worse than the previous stakeholder which I considered to be nigh on impossible.
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Post by joefrombow on Jun 20, 2018 18:26:32 GMT
Impressed that the service managed to still get the go ahead over 2 hours late had that been Greater Anglia down here it would of 100% been cancelled so good management keeping services still going that late ! Bit of a rubbish one finishing that late though if not scheduled too . I think they have done an incredible job in making the network considerably worse than the previous stakeholder which I considered to be nigh on impossible. I don't use SWT/R these days much so can't comment on how bad or better it was under the old franchisee however I would say 50% of delays over here on GA are down too Network Rail , for example giving signalling priority to a freight train over a passenger train which happens on a regular basis which has a knock on effect, overrunning engineering works , alot of things but we also get alot of stuff that's entirely down to the company "more trains needing maintenance than usual" or train crew not available etc but either way it's shocking something needs to change the fares long distance customers particular commuters pay the service at times is ridiculous , its cheaper in many cases to drive .
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Post by snoggle on Jun 20, 2018 21:20:29 GMT
I think they have done an incredible job in making the network considerably worse than the previous stakeholder which I considered to be nigh on impossible. I don't use SWT/R these days much so can't comment on how bad or better it was under the old franchisee however I would say 50% of delays over here on GA are down too Network Rail , for example giving signalling priority to a freight train over a passenger train which happens on a regular basis which has a knock on effect, overrunning engineering works , alot of things but we also get alot of stuff that's entirely down to the company "more trains needing maintenance than usual" or train crew not available etc but either way it's shocking something needs to change the fares long distance customers particular commuters pay the service at times is ridiculous , its cheaper in many cases to drive . Like you I am not a regular user of SWR (nor SWT before it). People were critical of Stagecoach but they did have the sense to rebase their timetable to reflect reality and had a decent approach to rolling stock maintenance and appropriate investment. I know SWR have suffered badly post Waterloo blockade due to Network Rail infrastructure issues but there also seems to have been a "oh we don't want to do things like Stagcoach" attitude which is regrettable when the performance numbers on rolling stock spoke for themselves. I understand SWR have already binned some of the bid service changes because there was so much complaint. Why did they ever suggest it then? Did they not talk to user groups? As for Greater Anglia - well I reckon that will go under. The Bombardier trains will be late, they haven't got a depot for them and there are rumoured problems with the Stadler trains design relative to the timetable. The premiums that are bid are extremely high and there's zero sign of any economic bouyancy. If the City of London starts losing jobs as a result of the "B Word" (as I fully expect) then Greater Anglia are completely sunk because they have such high commuter flows into the Square Mile. They are also seriously exposed on leisure traffic too if air traffic declines via Stansted Airport.
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Post by thewintersoldier on Jul 3, 2018 14:35:32 GMT
442’s apparently not being retractioned as apparently the issues with Vossloh(?) equipment on 455’s (traction equipment catching fire and exploding, well the one at Guildford anyway) means they are not taking risk with the 442’s
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