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Post by T.R. on Oct 16, 2018 23:55:35 GMT
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Post by 725DYE on Oct 17, 2018 16:25:47 GMT
Apparently Phil and Celia’s automated announcements at SWR stations are set to be replaced by ATOS Anne and Rodger, I wonder if conversion will start soon if so? Not surprised in all honesty, especially after GTR got rid of all their Phil and Celia announcements and replaced them with ATOS Anne and Matt Streeton. It is sad to see them being phased out though as I grew up hearing Celia and Phil's vices whenever I was waiting for a train. Meanwhile up north its all ATOS Anne. Does any station on the SWR network already have ATOS Anne announcements? I know Reading does and I believe Epsom does too after 725DYE told me. I think Waterloo occasionally has a different voice which is automated but not the usual voice. (Not the manual station announcement team as I recognise them) The CIS at Chiswick now advertised trains as ARRIVED when they are within station limits. This never used to happen before. It just said the departure time. Yes Waterloo has the new Celia voice. Epsom, Ashtead, Leatherhead, Box Hill & Westhumble and Dorking all have the new announcements as those stations are owned by GTR, as well as SWR operating services to them as well
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Post by TNL33036 on Oct 29, 2018 16:46:22 GMT
A follow up from my previous post on the thread regarding station announcements, the conversion has already begun, I heard the new ATOS system in action at Chiswick today with Anne on Plat. 1 and Rodger on Plat. 2.
Apparently as of 22/10/2018, Kingston, Shepperton, Thames Ditton and Farnham have also had the new announcements installed.
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Post by T.R. on Oct 29, 2018 19:41:30 GMT
Apparently as of 22/10/2018, Kingston, Shepperton, Thames Ditton and Farnham have also had the new announcements installed. Still Phil & Celia(?) here at the Junction. It’ll take a while to adjust when the switchover happens. Meanwhile another picture has emerged of the 442s:
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Post by T.R. on Nov 5, 2018 23:14:26 GMT
NR finally starting to make their presence known:
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 19, 2018 7:44:26 GMT
Advising anyone not to travel between Surbiton & Waterloo as ALL LINES ARE BLOCKED due to overrunning engineering works!
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Post by 700101 on Nov 19, 2018 9:18:23 GMT
Advising anyone not to travel between Surbiton & Waterloo as ALL LINES ARE BLOCKED due to overrunning engineering works! GTR affected as well due to 6Y01 being sat at Hayden’s Rod since 0600 the freight train is unable to access the Wessex route, Wimbledon loop services unable to run in the anti-clockwise direction
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Post by T.R. on Nov 19, 2018 11:25:20 GMT
Given the scale of the works being done yesterday (all four lines shut from Clapham to Weybridge via Surbiton) I’m not surprised.
How long before there are calls for heads (or franchises) to roll?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 13:37:32 GMT
Given the scale of the works being done yesterday (all four lines shut from Clapham to Weybridge via Surbiton) I’m not surprised. How long before there are calls for heads (or franchises) to roll? As frustrating as it was, took me an hour and 45 to get to New Malden from Wimbledon, in this case I think Network Rail is at fault. SWR have two of their large depots along that route and if NR hasn’t handed back the line then naturally things get delayed. That being said the advise of not to travel from SWRs Twitter feed needs reviewing, it’s was farcical.
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Post by sid on Nov 19, 2018 13:48:58 GMT
Given the scale of the works being done yesterday (all four lines shut from Clapham to Weybridge via Surbiton) I’m not surprised. How long before there are calls for heads (or franchises) to roll? As frustrating as it was, took me an hour and 45 to get to New Malden from Wimbledon, in this case I think Network Rail is at fault. SWR have two of their large depots along that route and if NR hasn’t handed back the line then naturally things get delayed. That being said the advise of not to travel from SWRs Twitter feed needs reviewing, it’s was farcical. It was indeed Network Rail's fault and in fairness I don't know what other advice SWR can give other than don't travel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 14:03:03 GMT
In the past, services would have been diverted via Chertsey, however with SWR cost saving one would presume route diversion knowledge is one department that has been hit on the head.
No other reason why services could not have been diverted this way.
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Post by sid on Nov 19, 2018 14:07:19 GMT
In the past, services would have been diverted via Chertsey, however with SWR cost saving one would presume route diversion knowledge is one department that has been hit on the head. No other reason why services could not have been diverted this way. I think a few were diverted that way but track capacity is limited.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 16:33:29 GMT
As frustrating as it was, took me an hour and 45 to get to New Malden from Wimbledon, in this case I think Network Rail is at fault. SWR have two of their large depots along that route and if NR hasn’t handed back the line then naturally things get delayed. That being said the advise of not to travel from SWRs Twitter feed needs reviewing, it’s was farcical. It was indeed Network Rail's fault and in fairness I don't know what other advice SWR can give other than don't travel. It would have been more useful to suggest alternatives within the London area and beyond. Also it would have useful to inform other train operators so passenger feeding into SWR services were aware. I travelled from Sutton to Wimbledon and not a single mention of problems on SWR at Sutton or on the train. I understand they are different operators but they report underground problems so why not other train problems, especially into a station like Wimbledon where the majority of passengers are likely to change to either SWR or the district line. If I and other passengers travelling towards Kingston had known we could have gotten the bus straight from Sutton. Just simple things like that.
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Post by sid on Nov 19, 2018 17:03:36 GMT
It was indeed Network Rail's fault and in fairness I don't know what other advice SWR can give other than don't travel. It would have been more useful to suggest alternatives within the London area and beyond. Also it would have useful to inform other train operators so passenger feeding into SWR services were aware. I travelled from Sutton to Wimbledon and not a single mention of problems on SWR at Sutton or on the train. I understand they are different operators but they report underground problems so why not other train problems, especially into a station like Wimbledon where the majority of passengers are likely to change to either SWR or the district line. If I and other passengers travelling towards Kingston had known we could have gotten the bus straight from Sutton. Just simple things like that. The alternatives would have been packed anyway such as going via Richmond or the Basingstoke to Reading line. I agree that there should have been some information about it at Sutton. Still in chaos now m.nationalrail.co.uk/pj/disruption/details/AAA63E16F73C42C588CF567B7C4DA0E4
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Post by snowman on Dec 8, 2018 9:27:07 GMT
Following comments on the Goblin thread made me think about how SWR are doing versus their franchise commitments Per the franchise announcement, 21 months ago in March 2017 this weekend should have seen enhanced services (now deferred to May 2019) Full reintroduction of 442s (all refurbished) see page 177 of 2nd link, a few have been seen on test, but nothing to indicate all are ready And of course the first of the new suburban trains are due from next summer, so you would expect the first one to be out on test by now. But of course they are Aventra derivatives (like Elizabeth Line 345, and Overground 710) so they are reliable with fault free software..... on second thoughts, let’s hope no one else is planning to lease the 458s and 707s for next few years www.gov.uk/government/news/first-mtr-south-western-trains-limited-wins-south-western-franchisewww.gov.uk/government/publications/south-western-railways-2017-rail-franchise-agreementThe new train introduction date is on page 434 Column A : Anticipated date of provisional acceptance Column B : Total number of New Five Car EMUs to be provisionally accepted by the Franchisee by the corresponding date in Column A Column C : Total number of New Ten Car EMUs to be provisionally accepted by the Franchisee by the corresponding date in Column A 15 September 2019, 0 + 2 13 October 2019, 1 + 7 10 November 2019, 2 + 12 08 December 2019, 2 + 17 05 January 2020, 2 + 21 02 February 2020, 2 + 23 01 March 2020, 2 + 27 31 March 2020, 2 + 32 28 April 2020, 2 + 36 26 May 2020, 3 + 40 23 June 2020, 5 + 43 21 July 2020, 9 + 47 18 August 2020, 12 + 50 15 September 2020, 15 + 53 13 October 2020, 18 + 56 10 November 2020, 24 + 60 08 December 2020, 30 + 60 Total 30 x 5 car and 60 x 10 car = 750
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