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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2009 20:53:55 GMT
how on earth do ya do a manual curtailment even with the programed curtailment its hit and miss as to whether it accepts it. i spent ages fiddling with it today trying to work out how to terminate at romford market due to a person under a train at romford, while i was stuck in traffic on the a12.
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Post by lc1 on May 2, 2009 5:56:38 GMT
First off you have to have the curtailment available to you and your route, if it is not on your list of curtailments then it ain't going to let you do it. Second I have found that you have to re-programme the wayfarer, BEFORE telling the MDT you want to curtail. Third you push the button that looks like a clipboard and then go to the page that says curtailment's and select the one you want. I agree that it seems to be hit and miss as some have not been set up correctly (that is the companies fault apparently :
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 21:20:28 GMT
Yeah pretty much what i did, I thought there may be a way to manually select a final destination as you can scroll through the roads. ah well. whats silly is that on the 66 there is no romford market turn programmed but its quite a common turn also on the 364 ley street is a common turn but again not on the system. i just end up turning off the display then forget to turn it back on lol. First off you have to have the curtailment available to you and your route, if it is not on your list of curtailments then it ain't going to let you do it. Second I have found that you have to re-programme the wayfarer, BEFORE telling the MDT you want to curtail. Third you push the button that looks like a clipboard and then go to the page that says curtailment's and select the one you want. I agree that it seems to be hit and miss as some have not been set up correctly (that is the companies fault apparently :
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Post by beaver14uk on May 5, 2009 22:39:57 GMT
Its a combination of whos at fault really. TfL should maintain the route records the operators were asked to confirm all was OK on their curtailments for ibus many did however, instances like Bexley on the 229 failed to be advised to us. I think the bottom line is lets move on work together and get it right to make life easy for all thats my view. I think you were only pulling my leg LC1 in any case ;D First off you have to have the curtailment available to you and your route, if it is not on your list of curtailments then it ain't going to let you do it. Second I have found that you have to re-programme the wayfarer, BEFORE telling the MDT you want to curtail. Third you push the button that looks like a clipboard and then go to the page that says curtailment's and select the one you want. I agree that it seems to be hit and miss as some have not been set up correctly (that is the companies fault apparently :
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Post by beaver14uk on May 5, 2009 22:41:51 GMT
Both curtailments are not on the route record hence they don't appear on ibus. I would suggest you pass this back to your people at Blue Triangle to follow up with TfL. I will flag it of course as an issue. Yeah pretty much what i did, I thought there may be a way to manually select a final destination as you can scroll through the roads. ah well. whats silly is that on the 66 there is no romford market turn programmed but its quite a common turn also on the 364 ley street is a common turn but again not on the system. i just end up turning off the display then forget to turn it back on lol. First off you have to have the curtailment available to you and your route, if it is not on your list of curtailments then it ain't going to let you do it. Second I have found that you have to re-programme the wayfarer, BEFORE telling the MDT you want to curtail. Third you push the button that looks like a clipboard and then go to the page that says curtailment's and select the one you want. I agree that it seems to be hit and miss as some have not been set up correctly (that is the companies fault apparently :
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Post by fl70500 on May 6, 2009 1:04:03 GMT
Yeah what he said... its not o the ATM so it wont be on i-bus
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Post by eggmiester on May 6, 2009 1:07:46 GMT
Its a combination of whos at fault really. TfL should maintain the route records the operators were asked to confirm all was OK on their curtailments for ibus many did however, instances like Bexley on the 229 failed to be advised to us. I think the bottom line is lets move on work together and get it right to make life easy for all thats my view. I think you were only pulling my leg LC1 in any case ;D First off you have to have the curtailment available to you and your route, if it is not on your list of curtailments then it ain't going to let you do it. Second I have found that you have to re-programme the wayfarer, BEFORE telling the MDT you want to curtail. Third you push the button that looks like a clipboard and then go to the page that says curtailment's and select the one you want. I agree that it seems to be hit and miss as some have not been set up correctly (that is the companies fault apparently : Indeed, Beavers right. Bexley was'nt originally available on the ibus systems for the 229 when we first got it at BX but with a bit of persuasion at LC and TFL it was finally added and is now available on the curtailments screen. Think Belvedere was the same, not available at first, but has since been added. Theres still some missing on BX's routes and indeed some routes have 'silly' turns for instance: The 401 has no 'Thamesmead East' turn available, but 401's rarely get turned anyway so theres no need for this really! Then the B11, which has a 'Thamesmead, Boiler House' Turn, but the 229 and 401 dont, yet both serve the same stop/location. Also the Boiler House is no more anyway, so it would be better to just announce 'Thamesmead, Carlyle Road' or something!! Simples!!
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Post by lc1 on May 6, 2009 4:21:57 GMT
Yes Beaver I was fishing for a bite and got one ;D Is the bexley turn now available from Thamesmead the last time I got a Bexley turn it was only available from Sidcup
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Post by beaver14uk on May 6, 2009 8:39:19 GMT
The Thamesmead East turn has been on the route record since October 2008 (I think it was added at the request of LC1). I saw a 177 curtail at The Bolier House recently its a fair point. Do you every curtail there? Personally erveryone knows the Boiler House so I think there is no reason to change it. I notice the Bexley turn from Thamesmead still has not been added Its a combination of whos at fault really. TfL should maintain the route records the operators were asked to confirm all was OK on their curtailments for ibus many did however, instances like Bexley on the 229 failed to be advised to us. I think the bottom line is lets move on work together and get it right to make life easy for all thats my view. I think you were only pulling my leg LC1 in any case ;D Indeed, Beavers right. Bexley was'nt originally available on the ibus systems for the 229 when we first got it at BX but with a bit of persuasion at LC and TFL it was finally added and is now available on the curtailments screen. Think Belvedere was the same, not available at first, but has since been added. Theres still some missing on BX's routes and indeed some routes have 'silly' turns for instance: The 401 has no 'Thamesmead East' turn available, but 401's rarely get turned anyway so theres no need for this really! Then the B11, which has a 'Thamesmead, Boiler House' Turn, but the 229 and 401 dont, yet both serve the same stop/location. Also the Boiler House is no more anyway, so it would be better to just announce 'Thamesmead, Carlyle Road' or something!! Simples!!
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Post by lc1 on May 6, 2009 13:22:11 GMT
I never requested the Thamesmead East turn (although I did mention to you it had been added as a fare stage)
As for the Boiler House I have only ever turned there once and that was on a B11 and we don't even have blinds for it anyway!!!
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Post by eggmiester on May 7, 2009 1:22:10 GMT
I never requested the Thamesmead East turn (although I did mention to you it had been added as a fare stage) As for the Boiler House I have only ever turned there once and that was on a B11 and we don't even have blinds for it anyway!!! on the new midi blinds, they just show 'Thamesmead' i got turned at the Boiler House once on a B11 and had a LDP with a new blind in, so i 'sort of' got away with it!! Yes i think Bexley is available from Thamesmead and has been for some time, i swear i've used it recently. one other one, Bexleyheath Station! Is that officially a turn on the B11? i dont think its on ibus, it was an official turn for the B12 when we had it, but has it ever been/is it official for the B11?
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Post by beaver14uk on May 7, 2009 8:07:53 GMT
Apologies can't remember all these discussions. I never requested the Thamesmead East turn (although I did mention to you it had been added as a fare stage) As for the Boiler House I have only ever turned there once and that was on a B11 and we don't even have blinds for it anyway!!!
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Post by lc1 on May 7, 2009 12:46:48 GMT
Apologies can't remember all these discussions. I never requested the Thamesmead East turn (although I did mention to you it had been added as a fare stage) As for the Boiler House I have only ever turned there once and that was on a B11 and we don't even have blinds for it anyway!!! That's what Alcohol does for you ;D I've curtailed once at Bexleyheath Station on a B11, although I wasn't supposed to I broke down ;D
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Post by eggmiester on May 24, 2009 0:34:47 GMT
Apologies can't remember all these discussions. That's what Alcohol does for you ;D I've curtailed once at Bexleyheath Station on a B11, although I wasn't supposed to I broke down ;D I got turned there on a B11 once as well, a few years back when we had that terrible (great actually) period where we had about 6 different sets of road works all in one square mile, - Temp lights in the broadway, pavement works in pickford lane and Long Lane and random holes beign dug here there and everywhere!
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