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Post by richard on Aug 17, 2019 18:28:48 GMT
TFL will regret this soon No they won't. It is highly likely that if the vehicle had had a conventional mirror that would have been damaged anyway. I much prefer the conventional mirrors than cameras even if they get damaged they wouldn't be off the road for long
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Post by E279 on Aug 17, 2019 18:57:11 GMT
So much for the new e-mirrors..... just seen one be hit by a 414 anyway I'm guessing it was SE295 that was involved. As rightly pointed out by wirewiper that if the bus had a conventional mirror it would have still have been damaged. Was any of the actual bus other than the mirrors damaged? If not I should imagine it’ll be out again in a fe days time, AF can’t afford to have it out too long given they only have 1 spare bus.
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Post by Londonbuses54 on Aug 17, 2019 19:35:52 GMT
TFL will regret this soon No they won't. It is highly likely that if the vehicle had had a conventional mirror that would have been damaged anyway. It certainly would have, but I’m saying that the repair is that caused damage would be greater on the e mirror than a normal one. That was meant to be one of the key features that they aren’t as easy to hit
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Post by Londonbuses54 on Aug 17, 2019 19:37:34 GMT
I'm guessing it was SE295 that was involved. As rightly pointed out by wirewiper that if the bus had a conventional mirror it would have still have been damaged. Was any of the actual bus other than the mirrors damaged? If not I should imagine it’ll be out again in a fe days time, AF can’t afford to have it out too long given they only have 1 spare bus. No it was just the mirror. It was SE300 that got damaged. It stayed out in service though I’ve just noticed so it couldn’t have caused much damage
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Post by YY13VKP on Aug 17, 2019 20:00:18 GMT
Delivery of the 197's MMC's is almost complete. Only EH341 and EH343 are yet to be registered. EH340 which I spotted on delivery yesterday was also officially registered then too with the DVLA
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Post by george on Aug 17, 2019 20:46:59 GMT
Was any of the actual bus other than the mirrors damaged? If not I should imagine it’ll be out again in a fe days time, AF can’t afford to have it out too long given they only have 1 spare bus. No it was just the mirror. It was SE300 that got damaged. It stayed out in service though I’ve just noticed so it couldn’t have caused much damage I cycled past AF to see if I could see anything only thing I could see was a WHV and an SE but it had no damage to it.
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Post by E279 on Aug 17, 2019 21:03:58 GMT
The SEe's on the 214 are very nippy and I must've caught the route at a less busy time as up until Kings Cross Station, there was a period of silence where you could only hear cars and buses running alongside us, they are every quite buses as well as in the electric.
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Post by rif153 on Aug 17, 2019 21:31:42 GMT
So much for the new e-mirrors..... just seen one be hit by a 414 anyway What I want to see is how these 'mirrors' fare in the rain, I'd be interested to see whether rainwater collects on these cameras, if so that makes them a nightamre. I presume that the cameras are shielded from rain/snow to prevent the lenses being blocked or worse damaged
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Post by Londonbuses54 on Aug 18, 2019 6:37:06 GMT
So much for the new e-mirrors..... just seen one be hit by a 414 anyway What I want to see is how these 'mirrors' fare in the rain, I'd be interested to see whether rainwater collects on these cameras, if so that makes them a nightamre. I presume that the cameras are shielded from rain/snow to prevent the lenses being blocked or worse damaged There was a video I saw and they did mention that it won’t happen as something prevents it, but I can’t remember exactly. I’m sure the fact they’re heated will evaporate it eventually and will also stop condensation
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 18, 2019 7:23:57 GMT
No they won't. It is highly likely that if the vehicle had had a conventional mirror that would have been damaged anyway. It certainly would have, but I’m saying that the repair is that caused damage would be greater on the e mirror than a normal one. That was meant to be one of the key features that they aren’t as easy to hit They aren't as easy to hit. That won't stop them being hit entirely, as we saw yesterday.
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Post by Londonbuses54 on Aug 18, 2019 11:03:08 GMT
It certainly would have, but I’m saying that the repair is that caused damage would be greater on the e mirror than a normal one. That was meant to be one of the key features that they aren’t as easy to hit They aren't as easy to hit. That won't stop them being hit entirely, as we saw yesterday. yes but as i’ve said, the price will end up almost balancing out with all the repairs having to be done at greater cost and off road time and not being able to supply a bus if one is damaged en route
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Post by E279 on Aug 18, 2019 11:49:40 GMT
Is the 405 allocated 2 WHVs or were they given to the 127 and 2x 06 reg E400s given to the 405 instead? I remember the 405 being awarded with 2 new WHVs but seem to recall they were taken off it.
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 18, 2019 13:30:18 GMT
Is the 405 allocated 2 WHVs or were they given to the 127 and 2x 06 reg E400s given to the 405 instead? I remember the 405 being awarded with 2 new WHVs but seem to recall they were taken off it. Weren't WHV42-44 transferred out? Having said the the 119 (14) and 202 (15) have a combined pvr of 29, TVR 33 ... so with 36 WHVs allocated to C, yes seems 2/3 are allocated to other routes at C
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Post by E279 on Aug 18, 2019 13:35:12 GMT
Is the 405 allocated 2 WHVs or were they given to the 127 and 2x 06 reg E400s given to the 405 instead? I remember the 405 being awarded with 2 new WHVs but seem to recall they were taken off it. Weren't WHV42-44 transferred out? Looking at the fleet list on the forum, I could see 2 'New for route 405s' one of which is now allocated to the 127 and the other a spare at Q. Shame really as it could help with an existing vehicle retain for GA meaning they'd only need for replace a few of the buses but the LX06/57/08 reg aren't able to do another contract.
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Post by WSD3 on Aug 18, 2019 17:54:55 GMT
The first See from the 214's batch on the 153. It is SEe 81.
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