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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 19:22:46 GMT
In the UK and Ireland, double deckers are a pretty common sight, especially in London. Im just wondering why other countries don't really use double deckers. The only other places that use them i can think of are China (mostly Hong Kong), Japan, USA (but i have only seen them as sightseeing buses), Canada (sightseeing only) and South Africa (a pretty rare sighting). So why do you think double deckers are not a common sighting elsewhere in the world, and where else have you seen double deckers in operation?
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Post by M1104 on May 30, 2009 22:17:58 GMT
Could be in some cases that overhead bridges, trees, street lights, power cables, etc are too low.
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Post by vjaska on May 30, 2009 23:26:05 GMT
I remember myself asking an American before why they don't have double deckers and she said that there isn't really demand for that many people on a bus and that most Americans drive instead compared to people in this country.
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Post by M1104 on May 31, 2009 12:59:14 GMT
I remember myself asking an American before why they don't have double deckers and she said that there isn't really demand for that many people on a bus and that most Americans drive instead compared to people in this country. I can believe that as the average household over there has more than one car. Also, their kids has Driver's Ed as part of their high school ciriculumm during their Junior year (second to last year in high school). This would of course motivate the average 15/16 year old to get their license by the legal age of 17 (16 in some states).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2009 14:09:36 GMT
I can believe that as the average household over there has more than one car. Also, their kids has Driver's Ed as part of their high school ciriculumm during their Junior year (second to last year in high school). This would of course motivate the average 15/16 year old to get their license by the legal age of 17 (16 in some states). If that was the case here, could you imagine how congested our roads would be here! And we might not have double deckers or as many bus services...well i dont know if it would go that far, but there would be less demand maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2009 17:14:35 GMT
In Canada we have double-deckers that run in public transport service. BC Transit in British Columbia has 3 axle Dennis/TransBus Tridents and ADL Enviro500s, GO Transit in Ontario has Enviro500s, and OC Transpo in Ontario has bought 3 Enviro500s for trial. Brampton Transit in Ontario also has a Leyland Olympian, but unfortunately, it isn't used now.
In the US, Las Vegas runs Enviro500s for public transport, and a few cities have demoed double deckers. These include: Community Transit in Washington state and San Francisco MUNI in California who have tried the Enviro500, and New York MTA in New York state who has tried the Van Hool TD925.
Canada and US Megabus also runs some TD925s.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 2, 2009 20:47:49 GMT
In Canada we have double-deckers that run in public transport service. BC Transit in British Columbia has 3 axle Dennis/TransBus Tridents and ADL Enviro500s, GO Transit in Ontario has Enviro500s, and OC Transpo in Ontario has bought 3 Enviro500s for trial. Brampton Transit in Ontario also has a Leyland Olympian, but unfortunately, it isn't used now. In the US, Las Vegas runs Enviro500s for public transport, and a few cities have demoed double deckers. These include: Community Transit in Washington state and San Francisco MUNI in California who have tried the Enviro500, and New York MTA in New York state who has tried the Van Hool TD925. Canada and US Megabus also runs some TD925s. I remember back in the mid 70's when Red London Transport RTs were in service near the Niagra Falls.
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Post by Steve09 on Jun 2, 2009 21:16:36 GMT
In Canada we have double-deckers that run in public transport service. BC Transit in British Columbia has 3 axle Dennis/TransBus Tridents and ADL Enviro500s, GO Transit in Ontario has Enviro500s, and OC Transpo in Ontario has bought 3 Enviro500s for trial. Brampton Transit in Ontario also has a Leyland Olympian, but unfortunately, it isn't used now. In the US, Las Vegas runs Enviro500s for public transport, and a few cities have demoed double deckers. These include: Community Transit in Washington state and San Francisco MUNI in California who have tried the Enviro500, and New York MTA in New York state who has tried the Van Hool TD925. Canada and US Megabus also runs some TD925s. I remember back in the mid 70's when Red London Transport RTs were in service near the Niagra Falls. They were still there several years ago, and probably still are. I've got a photo of some RT's, RTL's & Routemasters in 2002.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 2, 2009 21:44:33 GMT
I remember reading about a open top Leyland Olympian in Amercia losing the rest of its roof when it hit a low bridge.
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Post by snowman on Jun 4, 2009 12:21:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2009 12:50:02 GMT
TfL don't currently have tri-axles approved for service on any of their routes (quite why that is I don't know as I think they would go down well especially on very busy services). Until that happens ( if that ever happens I must add) then we won't be seeing tri-axles in normal service. On the other hand numerous sightseeing companies such as Big Bus and Arriva TOLST have used tri-axles in Central London. That order for 60 tri-axle Wright-bodied B9TLs was made by KMB and they already have a lot of other B9TL/Wright tri-axles in their fleet. In fact they have a big variety of tri-axles, including (if I remember correctly) a Scania with Caetano double-deck bodywork.
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Post by john on Jun 8, 2009 18:19:58 GMT
In the UK and Ireland, double deckers are a pretty common sight, especially in London. Im just wondering why other countries don't really use double deckers. The only other places that use them i can think of are China (mostly Hong Kong), Japan, USA (but i have only seen them as sightseeing buses), Canada (sightseeing only) and South Africa (a pretty rare sighting). So why do you think double deckers are not a common sighting elsewhere in the world, and where else have you seen double deckers in operation? Paris has a number of open top tri-axle Lolynes operating around the city, but generally i think in europe its down to bridge heights. I was on a 13'4" coach yesterday (Ayats Bravo 1 on a MAN chassis) and it just managed to get under a bridge on the motorway!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2009 18:30:01 GMT
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Post by snowman on Jun 19, 2009 15:28:57 GMT
It is bridge heights, many countries are around 4.2m - 4.5m (about 13'8" to 14'6") Consequently most countries just make the buses longer, 12m is a standard length so presumably they get rid of tight corners by widening road junctions Here is an example (the VDL Citea) has just been made available in 2 longer lengths (Remember the German subsidary of Ned Railways buys VDL buses so VDL could soon be on Travel London supplier list, although I would initially expect more E400s as a follow on order) I expect many drivers on here would like the idea of the 360hp 12m length version www.vdlbuscoach.com/index.php?pageid=503
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Post by snowman on Aug 21, 2009 7:33:17 GMT
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