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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2024 23:28:36 GMT
How exactly have you come to that conclusion? Many things such as research, talking with others who have knowledge in the field and adding 2 + 2 myself. Could you kindly share some of the research or any facts you've discovered? I'm genuinely curious about this
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 30, 2024 23:42:03 GMT
It does have relevance. If you are not happy breathing it in then why would you be happy with diesel buses sticking around and polluting? A diesel bus will never be zero emission, but electric technology eventually can be which is the point. I'm not sure what research you're doing if this is the conclusion you're coming to. With all respect I 100% disagree with you. Electrics also pollute as I have stated many times, even more than E6. We cannot believe what the govt and people in power tell us or want us to be fooled with their lies. Ofc you and anyone are entitled to their own opinion. I have been against this Electric nonsense from day 1, exactly as I was against Hybrids when they were revealed. Oh and all the research did was make me aware that I was right all along... Do you also think the earth is flat, seeing as we can't believe what people in power tell us? I think you don't know how to carry out research. You seem to be making up facts instead as you've provided no evidence at all.
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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 30, 2024 23:44:35 GMT
It does have relevance. If you are not happy breathing it in then why would you be happy with diesel buses sticking around and polluting? A diesel bus will never be zero emission, but electric technology eventually can be which is the point. I'm not sure what research you're doing if this is the conclusion you're coming to. With all respect I 100% disagree with you. Electrics also pollute as I have stated many times, even more than E6. We cannot believe what the govt and people in power tell us or want us to be fooled with their lies. Ofc you and anyone are entitled to their own opinion. I have been against this Electric nonsense from day 1, exactly as I was against Hybrids when they were revealed. Oh and all the research did was make me aware that I was right all along... I think it depends on what you class as pollution. If you are looking at lithium mining, parts shipping etc then yes EVs pollute from the manufacturing side but these things exist if you have a diesel/hybrid as well. If you look at their intended usage then they don’t pollute like diesel/hybrids do and as others have said once the issues related to battery production and disposal are resolved then the green credentials only increase. As for the electricity production itself the UK is now up to a maximum 87.5% energy production from renewable sources and coal usage is down to less than 1% of the energy production.
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Post by yunus on Mar 30, 2024 23:46:59 GMT
Many things such as research, talking with others who have knowledge in the field and adding 2 + 2 myself. Could you kindly share some of the research or any facts you've discovered? I'm genuinely curious about this I will go thru my history from my old phone to see if I can find the precise video where I heard it all from an experienced person in the industry. In the meantime, it is as simple as going on YouTube, you can type in The truth behind EVs/HEVs etc then compare with the vids of people who are pro this green tech, there are many interesting ones to watch. Due to my health I find it easier watching videos than reading long documents etc. When I mentioned talking directly with people in the industry, I have spoken to mechanics and have a family friend who is a vehicle expert. Slightly off topic but what puts me off is the lies we have heard from the govt over the years. I have no reason to trust their pro Green agenda as they have lied about more important topics. Just to be clear, many if not most will ofc disagree with me and I totally appreciate that. It is extremely hard to say anything 100% in concrete but I personally feel confident when adding the 2 + 2 together.
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Post by yunus on Mar 30, 2024 23:49:02 GMT
With all respect I 100% disagree with you. Electrics also pollute as I have stated many times, even more than E6. We cannot believe what the govt and people in power tell us or want us to be fooled with their lies. Ofc you and anyone are entitled to their own opinion. I have been against this Electric nonsense from day 1, exactly as I was against Hybrids when they were revealed. Oh and all the research did was make me aware that I was right all along... Do you also think the earth is flat, seeing as we can't believe what people in power tell us? I think you don't know how to carry out research. You seem to be making up facts instead as you've provided no evidence at all. I have different opinions about the earth but best we do not go into it. It does not take a genius to do research. Thanks to social media everything is at our finger tips.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 30, 2024 23:50:52 GMT
A small rant: Putting my love for Diesel buses to aside, the TFL bus network is just deteriorating and sadly my interest is reducing. Someone be kind enough to say whether this is normal or not? My mum says it is cos I am growing up. Finally just to be clear, I have a personal principle (said before) that we simply do not need buses with batteries or any form of so called "reducing emissions" tech, that is why I will use only Diesel buses as much as possible. Ofc it will eventually be a daily need to use Hybrid/Electric but atm I take day by day. Yes I like engine sounds but it is not the core reason of my conventional Diesel bus preference. When I have free time believe me I do so much research. I compare information from different sites. All are welcome to challenge and disagree but I am confident that Diesel @ E6 is clean enough without need for any other techs or batteries driving the vehicle e.g Hybrid / Electric. Watch this space for E7 coming out next year. Would you be confident breathing in the air directly from a bus exhaust pipe if you think that Euro6 diesels are enough? bahahahaha, omg; oh no you didn't
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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 31, 2024 0:00:36 GMT
Do you also think the earth is flat, seeing as we can't believe what people in power tell us? I think you don't know how to carry out research. You seem to be making up facts instead as you've provided no evidence at all. I have different opinions about the earth but best we do not go into it. It does not take a genius to do research. Thanks to social media everything is at our finger tips. Is this from the same armchair social media experts who spent the last week saying that the incident in Baltimore was obviously terrorism but couldn’t tell you what a TEU is without googling it.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 31, 2024 1:00:56 GMT
It does have relevance. If you are not happy breathing it in then why would you be happy with diesel buses sticking around and polluting? A diesel bus will never be zero emission, but electric technology eventually can be which is the point. I'm not sure what research you're doing if this is the conclusion you're coming to. With all respect I 100% disagree with you. Electrics also pollute as I have stated many times, even more than E6. We cannot believe what the govt and people in power tell us or want us to be fooled with their lies. Ofc you and anyone are entitled to their own opinion. I have been against this Electric nonsense from day 1, exactly as I was against Hybrids when they were revealed. Oh and all the research did was make me aware that I was right all along... No one has said electrics don't pollute but there is clear difference between electrics just having an issue on the production side with pollution which will likely in time be minimized or removed vs diesels who pollute both production wise and out on the road
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Post by mondraker275 on Mar 31, 2024 9:24:27 GMT
If there are traffic restrictions at the Forest Gate junction because of the fire, you dont then allow non-emergency roadworks to start at the next major junction (Woodgrange Road). Ideally, you dont start a little bit and then leave for the long weekend break. Ideally, when the little bit is on Upton Lane, you dont need 4-way traffic light, when 3 could do. But hey, that's an ideal world. Several long delays and turns on routes in the area.
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Post by ronnie on Mar 31, 2024 12:51:45 GMT
If there are traffic restrictions at the Forest Gate junction because of the fire, you dont then allow non-emergency roadworks to start at the next major junction (Woodgrange Road). Ideally, you dont start a little bit and then leave for the long weekend break. Ideally, when the little bit is on Upton Lane, you dont need 4-way traffic light, when 3 could do. But hey, that's an ideal world. Several long delays and turns on routes in the area. Smells like some funds were left over which would need repatriation if not spent before 5 April. Watch some people come and randomly dig holes to then fill them up in order to best use our tax money
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Post by matthieu1221 on Mar 31, 2024 13:17:46 GMT
Do you also think the earth is flat, seeing as we can't believe what people in power tell us? I think you don't know how to carry out research. You seem to be making up facts instead as you've provided no evidence at all. I have different opinions about the earth but best we do not go into it. It does not take a genius to do research. Thanks to social media everything is at our finger tips. LOL
It may not take a genius to do research but it does takes a minimum of critical thinking to filter out the 10% of gold on social media from the 90% of absolute trash. Seeing as how you absolutely dodged the flat Earth question I'm inclined to believe you are unable to distinguish the two.
But I'd be interested to know if the moon landing was fake? Currently I believe the 'government' and other 'mainstream' sources on this but I'm sure your 'research' on social media may hold the key to debunking the veracity of the event! So do please show us the way.
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 31, 2024 13:32:20 GMT
Could you kindly share some of the research or any facts you've discovered? I'm genuinely curious about this I will go thru my history from my old phone to see if I can find the precise video where I heard it all from an experienced person in the industry. In the meantime, it is as simple as going on YouTube, you can type in The truth behind EVs/HEVs etc then compare with the vids of people who are pro this green tech, there are many interesting ones to watch. Due to my health I find it easier watching videos than reading long documents etc. When I mentioned talking directly with people in the industry, I have spoken to mechanics and have a family friend who is a vehicle expert. Slightly off topic but what puts me off is the lies we have heard from the govt over the years. I have no reason to trust their pro Green agenda as they have lied about more important topics. Just to be clear, many if not most will ofc disagree with me and I totally appreciate that. It is extremely hard to say anything 100% in concrete but I personally feel confident when adding the 2 + 2 together. "Pro Green agenda" (whatever you take that to mean) is not purely a government issue. It is a cross-party concern and also a subject of global importance, hence the United Nations Climate Change Conferences (or COP) that take place annually and bring a diverse cross-section of the world's nations together to discuss climate change and how to mitigate it. At COP21 in Paris in 2015, no less than 196 signatories legally bound themselves to an international treaty on climate change, know as "The Paris Agreement". I might also add, as soon as anyone suggests I go online and find "The Truth" about something by looking it up on YouTube, my inner sceptic is straight out of the traps.
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Post by matthieu1221 on Mar 31, 2024 13:37:05 GMT
I will go thru my history from my old phone to see if I can find the precise video where I heard it all from an experienced person in the industry. In the meantime, it is as simple as going on YouTube, you can type in The truth behind EVs/HEVs etc then compare with the vids of people who are pro this green tech, there are many interesting ones to watch. Due to my health I find it easier watching videos than reading long documents etc. When I mentioned talking directly with people in the industry, I have spoken to mechanics and have a family friend who is a vehicle expert. Slightly off topic but what puts me off is the lies we have heard from the govt over the years. I have no reason to trust their pro Green agenda as they have lied about more important topics. Just to be clear, many if not most will ofc disagree with me and I totally appreciate that. It is extremely hard to say anything 100% in concrete but I personally feel confident when adding the 2 + 2 together. "Pro Green agenda" (whatever you take that to mean) is not purely a government issue. It is a cross-party concern and also a subject of global importance, hence the United Nations Climate Change Conferences (or COP) that take place annually and bring a diverse cross-section of the world's nations together to discuss climate change and how to mitigate it. At COP21 in Paris in 2015, no less than 196 signatories legally bound themselves to an international treaty on climate change, know as "The Paris Agreement". I might also add, as soon as anyone suggests I go online and find "The Truth" about something by looking it up on YouTube, my inner sceptic is straight out of the traps. Careful! 196 signatories! A global elite! The WEF! The Davos crowd! George Soros! That's further proof of it being a conspiracy! You've just proved his point!
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Post by LondonNorthern on Mar 31, 2024 14:15:58 GMT
I have different opinions about the earth but best we do not go into it. It does not take a genius to do research. Thanks to social media everything is at our finger tips. LOL
It may not take a genius to do research but it does takes a minimum of critical thinking to filter out the 10% of gold on social media from the 90% of absolute trash. Seeing as how you absolutely dodged the flat Earth question I'm inclined to believe you are unable to distinguish the two.
But I'd be interested to know if the moon landing was fake? Currently I believe the 'government' and other 'mainstream' sources on this but I'm sure your 'research' on social media may hold the key to debunking the veracity of the event! So do please show us the way.
I would take no notice. Every time OP mentions something related to the "green agenda" he always manages to get his panties in a twist and is usually corrected by other members. It's been like this for a very long time.
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Post by mb171 on Mar 31, 2024 20:30:51 GMT
General question - what got you into liking buses and trains?
Low height omnidekkas on the 161 - It would always be fun to ride an omnidekka on the 161 especially from the upper deck whilst sliding down Well Hall Road and the dual carriageway between Charlton and Woolwich.
Stagecoach Tridents from Plumstead garage (PD) were another batch of buses that hooked me into becoming an enthusiast - I loved as well as Stagecoach’s Scanias - they are, sadly, almost extinct seeing as the 97 got its upgrade yesterday to Streetdecks - one thing I love about Scanias in general is the speakers are muffled but somewhat very loud. I remember encountering a Scania for the first time (on route 96) and enjoying the sound of the speakers and the engine.
I remember the existence of LWB (long wheelbase) Enviro400 Tridents at Bexleyheath (or Tridentviro as some people like to call em). One common thing that some older buses had was the ibus screen placement - I never understood why these Tridentviros on the upper deck had the ibus on the right hand side of the bus however I found it unique. I remember the London Central livery and skirt on these buses how the doors would always rattle when closing.
As for trains, the 1996 Jubilee line stock was my favourite of all time as I grew up catching the Jubilee line.
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