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Post by grubbysa on Jan 25, 2018 17:25:32 GMT
Sounds to me as if the service was in a right state even with a 14 min gap unless you were travelling on a Sunday. As for a 45 min gap then that's beyond ridiculous. I wonder if bus drivers realise that passengers do have the ability to see precisely where all the buses are on a route if they use the right website. Obviously most won't bother to check but poor operation can be seen by anyone who makes the effort to check. A 45 minute gap is ridiculous if true. That would equate to the bus in front being at Edmonton Green when it was at Muswell Hill. Did anything not come out from Palmers Green garage or run light to cover the gap. As far as LVF was concerned, my bus (before the turn) was expected at Edmonton Green Bus station at 1806, the previous 102 arrived at 1721. Nothing appeared to come out from AD or dead run from somewhere to fill up our gap from what I saw.
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Post by grubbysa on Jan 25, 2018 17:27:06 GMT
Last week I had a 102 driver driving at snail pace. I boarded in Golders Green / Finchley Road towards Edmonton Green. Leader is 14 mins ahead so not too bad. My driver driving was so slow that even other passengers started to notice and then by the time we reached Muswell Hill our original leader was 45 mins ahead! Two 102s behind overtook us and we got turned to Cambridge Roundabout. The worst bus journey I've had in my life. You should make a complaint about it. If it is one thing I always have hate with a passion is a lazy driver playing for a turn or always expecting others to overtake and basically let others do all the work. Sent in a complaint to TfL the next day. Hopefully AD management can sort this problem out so it does not occur again in the future.
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Post by londonbusboy on Jan 25, 2018 18:53:08 GMT
I've had a late running leader and iBus asked me to hold back (even though i was also late) so i lost more time gradually and the bus behind overtook me
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Post by SILENCED on Jan 25, 2018 19:17:18 GMT
Just got to Howden Road, the first common stop of the 196 & 468 ... and countdown is reporting 10 buses die in best 19 minutes ... 8x468 and 2x196 ... All going to Elephant except one, being turned at Camberwell
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Post by Nathan on Jan 25, 2018 19:18:45 GMT
I've had a late running leader and iBus asked me to hold back (even though i was also late) so i lost more time gradually and the bus behind overtook me I mean...surely the controllers see this, right?
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Jan 25, 2018 20:09:07 GMT
My biggest bug bear is not so much the slow running - don't get me wrong, that does annoy me - but not as much as when your bus is bunched with another which is either behind or down the road. Then your driver receives a turn and what happens - the bus behind who is doing the full route overtakes leaving you and anyone else behind who needs to go further. Surely, there should be some co-ordination going on such as the turned bus continuing whilst the other bus is held back from overtaking? I know right - 90% of the time there is zero coordination whatsoever. In fact usually the non-curtailed bus' driver eagerly overtakes the others and is never seen again. Sometimes they drive off right after people alight - it's pathetic. Even worse if there is a large gap as well. I did ask few drivers, 'Why didn't your friend wait for us??' but they were never able to respond.
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Post by M1104 on Jan 26, 2018 0:00:40 GMT
I know right - 90% of the time there is zero coordination whatsoever. In fact usually the non-curtailed bus' driver eagerly overtakes the others and is never seen again. Sometimes they drive off right after people alight - it's pathetic. Even worse if there is a large gap as well. I did ask few drivers, 'Why didn't your friend wait for us??' but they were never able to respond. I used to get this a lot of the time when the 133 used to go to Tooting Broadway and I would get curtailed to St Leonard's Church, the driver behind trying to time it in such a way so as to avoid me transferring passengers over. What i used to do however was to alert punters at the Streatham Odeon that my next stop will be the last one but there's another 133 behind for Tooting Broadway (or a 57 if it happens to be behind). This gives them the opportunity to change at that bus stop where they may have a better chance of catching the bus of that evading driver.
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Post by Hassaan on Jan 26, 2018 0:27:21 GMT
My biggest bug bear is not so much the slow running - don't get me wrong, that does annoy me - but not as much as when your bus is bunched with another which is either behind or down the road. Then your driver receives a turn and what happens - the bus behind who is doing the full route overtakes leaving you and anyone else behind who needs to go further. Surely, there should be some co-ordination going on such as the turned bus continuing whilst the other bus is held back from overtaking? I know right - 90% of the time there is zero coordination whatsoever. In fact usually the non-curtailed bus' driver eagerly overtakes the others and is never seen again. Sometimes they drive off right after people alight - it's pathetic. Even worse if there is a large gap as well. I did ask few drivers, 'Why didn't your friend wait for us??' but they were never able to respond. The worst one I saw was one morning at school times. 3 x 120s in a row, the driver of the only non-curtailed and non-wedged bus changed his number blind and overtook, disappearing into the distance and leaving passengers behind (front 2 terminating at Lampton Corner and both full to windscreen, the wrong number one was almost empty).
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 27, 2018 0:28:56 GMT
A 45 minute gap is ridiculous if true. That would equate to the bus in front being at Edmonton Green when it was at Muswell Hill. Did anything not come out from Palmers Green garage or run light to cover the gap. As far as LVF was concerned, my bus (before the turn) was expected at Edmonton Green Bus station at 1806, the previous 102 arrived at 1721. Nothing appeared to come out from AD or dead run from somewhere to fill up our gap from what I saw. Would try to find out the gap, unless there was a bus was not showing on ibus.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 27, 2018 0:29:37 GMT
I've had a late running leader and iBus asked me to hold back (even though i was also late) so i lost more time gradually and the bus behind overtook me I mean...surely the controllers see this, right? If the bus behind was not showing in fallback mode, then no.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 27, 2018 21:00:53 GMT
Ever had your journey interrupted by a stray horse? This just happened near Feltham: PS. Good job to H&D(?) on the X26 refurbs - now if only all buses had USB sockets Did this occur in Black Horse Road in Walthamstow?
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Post by galwhv69 on Jan 27, 2018 21:08:55 GMT
Ever had your journey interrupted by a stray horse? This just happened near Feltham: PS. Good job to H&D(?) on the X26 refurbs - now if only all buses had USB sockets Did this occur in Black Horse Road in Walthamstow? It says Feltham in the original post.
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Post by ibus246 on Jan 28, 2018 14:59:47 GMT
Do the bus station controllers have to randomly observe bus speed in the relevant bus station? Was at Addingtom Village and noticed that on here computer she was filling a “speed gun report form”
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Post by ak121 on Jan 28, 2018 15:43:10 GMT
I was thinking about bus routes that share every single one of there stops with another bus route. I've got the Route 241: Follows the 308 from Stratford City to Stratford, then follows the 262 and 473 until Plaistow High Street, then follows the 325 until Freemasons Road/ Leslie Road, then follows the 147 and N551 until Canning Town Bus Station, then finally follows the 276, 300, 330, 5, N15, 115 until the terminus at Hermit Road.
Route 105: Follows the 92, E6, 95 from Greenford Station (Greenford Roundabout for 95) to Greenford Broadway, then follows the E6, 282, 95, E9, E7, N7 until Beechwood Avenue, then follows the 95 all the way to Southall Town Hall, then follows the H32, 482, 120, E5 and 195, follows the 195 all the way until Wentworth Road, then follows the H28 until Cranford Community School, then follows the 111 only to Bath Road and then finally follows the the 111, 81, 222, 423, N9, 140, 285 until Heathrow Central. (the 81 and 423 don't serve Heathrow Central) What other routes can you think of that don't serve a bus stop by themself?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 28, 2018 15:53:38 GMT
I was thinking about bus routes that share every single one of there stops with another bus route. I've got the Route 241: Follows the 308 from Stratford City to Stratford, then follows the 262 and 473 until Plaistow High Street, then follows the 325 until Freemasons Road/ Leslie Road, then follows the 147 and N551 until Canning Town Bus Station, then finally follows the 276, 300, 330, 5, N15, 115 until the terminus at Hermit Road. Route 105: Follows the 92, E6, 95 from Greenford Station (Greenford Roundabout for 95) to Greenford Broadway, then follows the E6, 282, 95, E9, E7, N7 until Beechwood Avenue, then follows the 95 all the way to Southall Town Hall, then follows the H32, 482, 120, E5 and 195, follows the 195 all the way until Wentworth Road, then follows the H28 until Cranford Community School, then follows the 111 only to Bath Road and then finally follows the the 111, 81, 222, 423, N9, 140, 285 until Heathrow Central. (the 81 and 423 don't serve Heathrow Central) What other routes can you think of that don't serve a bus stop by themself? Route 262 follows the 366 to Gallions Reach, then the 376 to Beckton Bus Station, then the 300 down Tollgate Road, the 376 to Newham Hospital and then the 473 to Stratford. Route 238 follows the 5 to Newham Town Hall, the 376 to Green Street then the 104 to Stratford Route 5 follows the 115 to Newham Town Hall, the 238 to Barking,the EL2 to Becontree Heath then the 175 to Romford Market Route 205 follows the 25 to Aldgate, the 135 to Old St, the 214 to Kings Cross, the 73 to Warren Street and the 27 to Paddington. Route 453 follows the 53 to Whitehall, the 88 to Great Portland Street and the 205 to Marylebone Roue 176 follows the 24 to Trafalgar Square, the 12 to Camberwell Green, the 185 to Forest Hill, the 197 to Penge. Route 73 follows route 390 to Euston then route 476 to Stoke Newington
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