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Post by rif153 on Nov 9, 2019 20:41:27 GMT
Just got on a 202 and after one stop, have just had “the driver has been instructed to wait a short time...” Unfortunately, I got on the bus at the first stop, Blackheath Royal Standard, and the bus is holding at the second stop... it’s not even as if the bus left early, either. It's even worse on the 21/172/453 when they wait at Briant Street (a stop before NX) after having waited already at previous stops, then arrive at NX and changeover wasting even more of the passengers time 🙄 Especially if the changeover driver is late which is the worst, but I guess live changeovers do kill some time for early running buses. I understand that if the driver is using a ferry vehicle, staff bus, or public transport that they could be held up when trying to reach the changeover point, but it is frustrating when they're late, and you have to wait for ages outside the garage, granted that of course the bus due for a changeover could be running early. I've been on a 57 outside AL which took eleven minutes, and it took nine of those for the driver to turn up, if my bus had been running nine minutes early then that's ridiculous, but I doubt it was.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 9, 2019 21:14:46 GMT
It's even worse on the 21/172/453 when they wait at Briant Street (a stop before NX) after having waited already at previous stops, then arrive at NX and changeover wasting even more of the passengers time 🙄 Especially if the changeover driver is late which is the worst, but I guess live changeovers do kill some time for early running buses. I understand that if the driver is using a ferry vehicle, staff bus, or public transport that they could be held up when trying to reach the changeover point, but it is frustrating when they're late, and you have to wait for ages outside the garage, granted that of course the bus due for a changeover could be running early. I've been on a 57 outside AL which took eleven minutes, and it took nine of those for the driver to turn up, if my bus had been running nine minutes early then that's ridiculous, but I doubt it was. A few years ago the 152 regularly had changeovers where the bus was sitting at the stop for the best part of 10 minutes. One of the drivers explained that the ferry vehicle had been taken away and staff had to travel via a tram and a bus. Presumably there wasn't enough scheduled travelling time for drivers to get to the bus stop before the bus arrives.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 9, 2019 21:19:00 GMT
Especially if the changeover driver is late which is the worst, but I guess live changeovers do kill some time for early running buses. I understand that if the driver is using a ferry vehicle, staff bus, or public transport that they could be held up when trying to reach the changeover point, but it is frustrating when they're late, and you have to wait for ages outside the garage, granted that of course the bus due for a changeover could be running early. I've been on a 57 outside AL which took eleven minutes, and it took nine of those for the driver to turn up, if my bus had been running nine minutes early then that's ridiculous, but I doubt it was. A few years ago the 152 regularly had changeovers where the bus was sitting at the stop for the best part of 10 minutes. One of the drivers explained that the ferry vehicle had been taken away and staff had to travel via a tram and a bus. Presumably there wasn't enough scheduled travelling time for drivers to get to the bus stop before the bus arrives. Was this back when the 152 was run from Abellio BC?
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Post by LVF_Admin on Nov 9, 2019 21:35:25 GMT
Just curious, does anyone know why the 335 doesn't double-run via Kidbrooke Station as the 178 does? Pretty strange that the 335 completely bypasses the station when the 178 does not, also it would be useful for those alighting at the station to connect to the 335 and head towards North Greenwich, and vice versa. Regarding the route, it was used quite well when I was on it end-to-end a few days ago well before the evening peak. Having said that surely there is scope for an extension at its southern end as it's essentially 'half a 132' I believe it's because Kidbrooke Station will soon close due to some sort of upgrade work but I could be wrong That whole area by the station has further development / regeneration work with more tower blocks just approved by the Mayor's Office after refusal of planning by Royal Greenwich.
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Post by Nathan on Nov 11, 2019 9:05:08 GMT
Perhaps he was driving a VWH 😂
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Post by rmz19 on Nov 11, 2019 23:13:22 GMT
Regarding the Gemini 3, does anyone why some examples have the small lower deck window by the staircase and some don't? Can't particularly think why, though personally I think they look better without it.
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Post by rhys on Nov 12, 2019 1:57:33 GMT
Regarding the Gemini 3, does anyone why some examples have the small lower deck window by the staircase and some don't? Can't particularly think why, though personally I think they look better without it. Operator's preference. Same thing with Evoseti
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Post by rugbyref on Nov 12, 2019 13:38:22 GMT
Overheard a driver this morning referring to his ZF gearbox mount as ‘a dancing bus’. Couldn’t disagree!
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Post by M1104 on Nov 13, 2019 11:39:33 GMT
A few years ago the 152 regularly had changeovers where the bus was sitting at the stop for the best part of 10 minutes. One of the drivers explained that the ferry vehicle had been taken away and staff had to travel via a tram and a bus. Presumably there wasn't enough scheduled travelling time for drivers to get to the bus stop before the bus arrives. Was this back when the 152 was run from Abellio BC? It was indeed
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Post by londonbusboy on Nov 13, 2019 19:22:58 GMT
Overheard a driver this morning referring to his ZF gearbox mount as ‘a dancing bus’. Couldn’t disagree! I've had an Omnicity going up Anerley Hill and it stayed in 2nd gear for most of it, the revs and speed were getting stupidly low/slow before it decided to change to 1st Probably a rare moment for a ZF to hold a gear lol
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Post by 6HP502C on Nov 13, 2019 20:48:40 GMT
Overheard a driver this morning referring to his ZF gearbox mount as ‘a dancing bus’. Couldn’t disagree! I've had an Omnicity going up Anerley Hill and it stayed in 2nd gear for most of it, the revs and speed were getting stupidly low/slow before it decided to change to 1st Probably a rare moment for a ZF to hold a gear lol I would have pumped it to keep it at the higher end of 2nd 😂
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Post by londonbusboy on Nov 14, 2019 12:15:45 GMT
I've had an Omnicity going up Anerley Hill and it stayed in 2nd gear for most of it, the revs and speed were getting stupidly low/slow before it decided to change to 1st Probably a rare moment for a ZF to hold a gear lol I would have pumped it to keep it at the higher end of 2nd 😂 Someones told me to pump the throttle before but it does f all! Unless i dont know what im doing lol
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Post by M1104 on Nov 14, 2019 13:03:48 GMT
I've had an Omnicity going up Anerley Hill and it stayed in 2nd gear for most of it, the revs and speed were getting stupidly low/slow before it decided to change to 1st Probably a rare moment for a ZF to hold a gear lol I would have pumped it to keep it at the higher end of 2nd 😂 I didn't realise that also works on Scanias. I always thought it was a Volvo loophole but it appears that it's more on the actual ZF. EDIT: just as I posted this I just remembered you doing the same trick on the E40Ds
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Post by 6HP502C on Nov 14, 2019 15:33:28 GMT
I would have pumped it to keep it at the higher end of 2nd 😂 Someones told me to pump the throttle before but it does f all! Unless i dont know what im doing lol It worked when I drove the old 181/284 Scania N94s 604, 605 and 610 so I assumed it might work with the Omnicities!
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Post by 6HP502C on Nov 14, 2019 15:47:45 GMT
I would have pumped it to keep it at the higher end of 2nd 😂 I didn't realise that also works on Scanias. I always thought it was a Volvo loophole but it appears that it's more on the actual ZF. EDIT: just as I posted this I just remembered you doing the same trick on the E40Ds Yes definitely works with ZF Ecomat E400s! Also works with every ZF B7TL I've driven - V/W plate VA/VP, Y plate PVL, 03 plate VP/VLW, 55 plate VWs and 06 plate WVLs! And the Scania N94s - Euro 3 SP/SLE and Omnitowns. The likes of 610 and SP1 also had a working kickdown and speed range selectors so little point in tapping the throttle. Plus the N230UDs - 5 and 6 speed Omnicities with both the short and long gear ratio set up, both Euro 4 and Euro 5. Finally also worked with the MAN 14.240s from the 246, but the revvo needle would shoot up to 2300rpm so quickly there was no point. It also works with Euro 5 Mercedes Citaros. It doesn't work with any ZF Ecolife buses I've had but wonder if it would with the MECs.
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